The reasons some people use to bash watercooling on this particular forum are nonsensical and sometimes outright ridiculous.

The_Animator420

And some people can only call names like a child without stating any facts or even trying to convince anyone. Please elaborate on the nonsensical or ridiculous reasons I have put forward in opposition to water cooling, so that I can be convinced of your point of view or defend my own.

Your record suggests that it's your assembly process. Three bad mobos in a row is like impossible. Look for extra standoffs that should not be there, silver compound on the CPU pins, a pinched wire, stuff like that.

[QUOTE="Blistrax"]

[QUOTE="horgen123"] Don't get water cooling because it has water? :?horgen123

Yeah. Water is fluid and conductive, just what I want flying around inside my case. Water is an unnecessary risk, especially if you don't need an after-market cooler at all.

Nothing is safe. Stuff happens. Water leaks out of things all the time, all over the world. Always has, always will. Next you'll be telling me nuclear power is safe if you know what you're doing. One word: Fukushima. If there is no water in your case, it is impossible for it to drip onto your mobo and fry it, that's all I'm saying.

[QUOTE="Blistrax"]

Don't get a water cooler. It has water in it. You aren't overclocking, so the stock cooler will be fine unless you want quiet.

As always for gaming, get the most graphics card you can afford. That 7850 is moderately strong.

horgen123

Yeah. Water is fluid and conductive, just what I want flying around inside my case. Water is an unnecessary risk, especially if you don't need an after-market cooler at all.

Don't get a water cooler. It has water in it. You aren't overclocking, so the stock cooler will be fine unless you want quiet.

As always for gaming, get the most graphics card you can afford. That 7850 is moderately strong.

I am an accountant & I will be usuing it as such ... various accounting suites/ excel/ word/ internet browsing/ youtube/ videos/ music/ photos/ pdf's/ emails ... you get the picture.

I don't intend on gaming on this pc to be honest.

Everyone I've talked to thus far has been pursuading me not to spend £1000 on a machine for doing these tasks.

http://www.palicomp.co.uk/cheap-desktop-pcs-from-a-229/intel-home/office-pcs/alpha-phase/prod_359.html

My next thought's are to keep most of the stock components of this pc then, but Perhaps looking to upgrade to the following:

• A better power supply (for upgrade purposes later)
• Intel i7 4770k (because I lack patience).

I won't be asking them to overclock anything (should I though)?

As far the power supply goes, What do you think is enough. And will higher watts create more noise/ heat issues?

Would I be seeing the difference in speed over using an i7 instead of i5 processor in normal day use ... is it worth the extra £100?

Also would I need to buy cpu cooling for an i7 4770k processor?

Let me know your thoughts on these questions.

vpacalypse

You don't need anything special to do what you do on it. Your CPU is slight overkill, but faster is always better, so if you can afford it, it's good.

The only thing you need more power for would be a graphics card, and you don't need one at all. Do take the advice here about which PSUs are reliable.

Overclocking is a pain in the neck, introduces instability, and increases heat and power consumption. That i7 is plenty fast already. Overclocking is a hobby in its own right, for rabid gamers. Go fishing or take up woodcarving, and enjoy a cool, quiet, stable computer when you work.

Water cooling is bad. There is water in it. You want to last ten years? Show me a system with clamps and hoses of any kind that 100% will not leak in ten years. Ask a plumber. The stock cooler will work, but I would get a quieter one if I were you. Generally speaking, the larger the fan, the quieter. Any cooler will be adequate for stock frequency.

One big exhaust fan in the top back of the case should be plenty. Fans make noise. A filter on the intake is good. The case should be as small as possible for a smaller desktop footprint. Bigger is better for monster gaming rigs, because big cases run cooler, all else being equal. You would also need a big case if you were running a big RAID, just to accommodate all the HDDs.

Be thinking smaller form factor for the mobo. This will reduce the overall size.

Do get an SSD. This is the one thing you should definitely throw some money at. Intel is high but good. Don't skimp. You can spend more and go faster. Get at least 128G. Get a big HDD for storage in addition.

What's the PC for?

Postmortem123

This ^.

How can you customize if you don't know what you will be using it for? It's like a car. Do you want it to look good at the weekend shows? Do you want to cruise the highway in maximum comfort? Do you want to pull a boat? Do you want to go through the Rockies in winter? Do you want to be able to leave rubber at the stoplight? What?

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Possibly a 7950 or would that not be a big enough difference?

Also, looking at some other CPU's here. Would it be worth spending a little more and getting an i7 (2600/2700k)? If so, would that go better with a different mobo or would the Extreme4 be decent enough?

superclocked

You know, that is the conventional wisdom, and if you're strictly a gamer pinching pennies it is 100% right, but I find there are times I wish I had a better CPU, ripping DVDs and rendering in Gimp, for instance. Get the best Intel you can afford.

That is a huge SSD. Install your OS on it and all your programs. Use the HDD for media storage, output folders, and such. The SSD won't speed up games, but everything will load faster, and having the OS on it will make your whole experience slicker.

You have to install drivers. Let Windows do it. Go into Device Manager and uninstall the device and the drivers when it asks. Reboot. Let Windows install drivers. Make sure the card is the default playback device in Control Panel / Sound.