So it is just more like halo?

I am not mad or ranting, just making sure that it is supposed to be that many. I know that this is Treyargh, so I was just wondering if it was the same issues as bo and WAW. While you can often fire entire mags through bots in bo, it usually took 4-5 bullets to kill. This is consistantly 8 bullets and after checking all settings, i realize that it does take 8 assault rifle bullets to kill.

How does it affect online mp, better, worse?

Try reviving a teammate in zombies... Wow it sucks. The area you must stand in/face is way smaller than the area that says 'hit x to revive', so you often cannot revive someone when the screen says to, you have to move closer, aim right at them.

Maybe that is just a split screen issue...but I doubt it.

Hi, I play offline split screen versus bots and I play zombies. I am sure that I'll play online eventually.

i notice that offline, while watching kills and final killcams, that the m27 ar takes 8 bullets to kill each time.

is this the patented Treyargh nondetection, or is it 8 shots to kill now. I noticed it was way more than bo or mw3, but is it 8 always?

no, health wasn't raised or lowered In the options...

Bo was one of the worst cod in so many ways.

So I bought this for the bots and zombies, whch have been worth my money.

I assume the mp will be as unplayable as bo is, but I haven't tried it yet. The few maps that I have seen seem as bad as bo maps were, so that sucks. That being said, I love the options to customize your classes.

Maybe the mp will be surprisingly good, but I have no faith in Treyargh after bo...

Haha. I hated bo for the terrible maps, nondetection, and bad programming.

But, the bots were fun and the uber glitchy zombies too.

That is the reason that I bought BO2, I already know that there will be no hit detection, terrible programming, and glitches galore, but it will be fun even if round 1 zombies sometimes take 4 stabs to kill...

I feel treyargh did the best they could with the lack of programming skills that they have. This seems less bad than bo so far. WaW wins for the best maps and zombies, out of treyarghs games.

MW2 and WAW had the best maps I think. they were simple and fun. Most of the iconic maps of all time in all FPS are the seemingly simple ones.Con_Air_On_VHS

yeah, bo had the worst maps, mw3 maps were slightly better, these are on par with mw3, bad.

They're fine for me, everyone has different tastes and styles of play.

I hate the small maps that get voted a lot.

Bad to me: dome, resistance, bootleg, hardhat, arkaden.

The rest are quite nice for a flanker/rusher like me.

Seriously, please never vote for arkaden domination again.

The game switched me to host after the first host left, I got 8 hitmarkers with the aa-12 at close close range.

3 3 bursts into a guy with the type 95...

WaW and BO still take the most hitmarker award. And the longest 'around the corner' deaths.