The TC is absolutely right, this game is unbalanced. I just played several hours (been a long time since I have been online). I remember using the assault rifle to great effect, but somehow it sucks now. Did Bungie change the game making it useless? Bungie didn't make Halo 4, it's 343 Industries, although a lot of people who wanted to keep working on Halo left Bungie.
I notice no one uses assault rifle, its DMR and Bullshot (more like Bull$hit) combo with Promethean vision and Rocket pack. That's because the AR has limited use - it's a good close-range weapon but nothing more.
And you know what is bs? The rocket pack goes pretty far up, I cant even gun them down with the assault rifle, they use the dmr and just shoot my head off! The jetpack is nothing like it was in Reach where you could hover with it for a while - in H4 it's really only to help you get up on higher spot in the maps quicker.
I think I am playing on Saturday night so there must be the hardcore players on, and I was seriously lagging. But even then when I decided to try the dmr I could get kills MUCH easiers. Also I notice how useless the vehicles are, the dmrs blow them up. A single person shooting a vehicle with a DMR takes a long time and several clips to destroy it - if a whole team is shooting at a vehicle it will go down quicker, but you can't expect to bring a vehicle into a crowd of enemies without getting a lot of attention.
And you know what is really bs, how everything is about rushing, not really about tactics per se, but just how fast you move around. I don't know who you're playing against, but this game is all about tactics. If you put yourself in a bad situation, you will lose no matter how skilled you are. This game plays much faster than Reach, closer to the speed of Halo 3 online, but unless you're playing against very aggressive people, it's certainly not all about rushing. This statement is just plain false.
The assault of is so bad that they dont even care when I am shooting them, they just run up to me and melee... AR + melee is very effective and people kill me like that often if I get caught off-guard in a close range situation. I don't know what the hell you're doing with an AR and dying to melee, but that's your fault more often than not. If you're using an AR and still don't win most of your close range encounters, you're doing something seriously wrong dude.
The thing about long range is SO freakin true, especially on ragnarok, I cant use the assault rifle!? Look at the cover of the game, IT SHOWS THE ASSAULT RIFLE! No you can't use an AR on Ragnarok, that's just plain stupid. The cover of the game means nothing, ARs have no place on a map like Ragnarok. Was anyone using anything other than BRs on Valhalla in Halo 3? Hell no, that makes absolutely no sense on a long range map. Automatic weapons should never be used in Big Team slayer unless you've also got a long rang rifle like a DMR.
I played a couple months ago, but I havent really played a serious ammount in a while, and now I come back and its like a completely different game. I honestly never knew the BS could kill in ONE HIT! I could understand like taking your shields out, but THAT IS BS! Not even the shotgun is that good. And it basically auto hits, you dont have to get it just right, its just kind of like you close enough, and they die. I noticed I kept dieing in one hit and was sayying "how did that happen?" I didnt know the BS could be charged up and used like that. The Boltshot is definitely overpowered as it is, but the one shot kill has to be aimed perfectly to work. A lot of players have mastered it which is why you may think it's very easy, but in reality you need good timing and great aim to get the one-shot kill (unless the opponent is already hurt). It's certainly not as good as any shotgun, but it is a handy tool to defend against players who rush you with automatic weapons, which are pretty powerful in H4 compared to older games and will kill very quick in close range.
Another thing is promethean vision is definately beings used a lot, I cant even hide anymore... If you need to hide often, that means you're putting yourself out of position on the map often, plain and simple. Try to stick with your team a bit more so you have some backup if you're losing a gunfight, and you shouldn't try to attack the other team alone, especially if they're in groups.
I have played Halo since the beginning, and online I am always like "time to die!" *they all die*... But right now I feel like tactics are meaningless. That's far from the truth. There's a lot of variety in this game and a lot of different armor abilities and tactical/strategy perks to allow for many different playstyles.
I notice that the hardcore Halo players dont use the assault rifle, they just rush everything really fast, and hop around because they can jump so fast and move left to right. This game is feeling like a cluster fvck more than a tactical game. The AR and other automatic weapons were never "hardcore" or MLG-type weapons, and they're useless outside close-midrange in gunfights. At this point, I'm starting to think that maybe you're just not that great of a player so when opponents encounter you, they feel they can win so they will attack you in 1v1 situations. If you've got an AR, they will win with a BR/DMR if they keep a bit of distance. Also, moving side-to-side while shooting is called strafing and it's a very basic strategy in online shooters that you'll see in any game where it takes more than 2-3 shots to kill someone. The hopping is also for the same reason - to throw off the aim of your opponent so you have an advantage in the gunfight.
The main thing is everyone just seems to run like its a fvcking football game! What is going on, why is everyone rushing so freakin much? The game can be a clusterfvck at times, but if you feel like it is all the time and you're getting overwhelmed, then try playing with a team or just practice more until you understand the flow of the game. You'll start to see the strategy to it over time as you get better.
With promethean vision, you basically dont have to be careful, you know if someone is behind those rocks (and even when they are cloaked). No I'm pretty sure promethean vision won't let you see players with camo on if they're behind an obstacle. I can double-check, but I think you're wrong here.
This game is being exploited to death, its basically making it so you have to play one way or else you will suck every round regardless of your tactics. No you definitely don't have to play one way. I see plenty of different strategies and styles of play being used successfully every game. I think it's more likely that you are set on playing a certain way and either it's not suited well to the playlist or situations you get into in the game, or you're just not that good at the game and complaining because you suck.
Everything does feel like its range oriented, the mantis doesnt feel that useful against people with dmrs, they can just go the back of the map, and shoot it when it appears. Its huge, the dmr does significant damage in no time. Everything IS range-oriented. That's a major part of the strategy in the game - where you are, where your teammates are, and where your opponents are. If you want to use an AR, you'll have to get in closer-ranged encounters to be successful, but you can't just rush in commando without your teammates because you will get torn apart regardless. With a DMR, longer ranges benefit you, but if you camp for a while and have no teammates around you, you will eventually get hunted down and killed. With a mantis, you can't expect to go out into the open on the enemy side of the map without getting torn apart by DMRs, snipers, grenades, and plasma pistol bursts. You need to have cover around and bait the enemy in, and you need to be patient and you will get your kills. I know it might seems almost counter-intuitive because you're in a big bad-ass mech with rockets and a machine gun, but patience and proper positioning on the map is key to success with a mantis.
One other thing is grenages, they seem more like a tool to force you to move into a location, more than to actually cause death. Everyone can move so fast, and the grenade indicator makes it easy to know. I notice how the enemy team just openly attacks, and they just throw all their nades at once, because that is the only way to really make them useful... I notice people just try to stickie you, hell I often ignore nades. H4's grenades, once again, are more like H3 than Reach. The range is not that wide on frags or plasma nades, so you need good aim and great timing to do real damage with nades, especially frags, but you'll get better over time. Grenades were almost useless to me at first, but now I get a few kills a game with them and they're very useful when used properly. They're effective for offense and defense.
I just checked the forum, and on November 13, someone said how the dmr is op... I think it took the gernal public a coupel months, but everyone is not doing the same thing. Here is the worst thing, every match feels like they are all using the same tactics. Yes, certain tactics are more popular than others, but there are plenty of others that are effective too. The DMR is the most popular gun because it's the most versatile - the bloom is minimal, it has longer range than the BR and shoots fast enough up close to remain effective in more close-quarter situations. It's a bit OP because it does shoot a little faster than the BR - I'm hoping they slow it down just a bit to fix that. But the BR is great midrange and much easier to pick off headshots than the DMR - it also lets you kill someone in 1 burst if their shields are low enough before they're one-shot. If you wanna use an AR, Regicide is great, objectives like Oddball or KOTH are good, you can even use them in regular infinity slayer as long as you're not on complex. You can't use automatic weapons in Big Team or on huge maps, but remember you also can't expect to win in close range gunfights with a BR/DMR against an AR all the time either.
Not sure if I mentioned, but the players suck they do everything without really thinking. I dont bother get in a warthog, all people do is ram it in no matter what, they never use some caution.... It feels like a racing game with the addition of guns. I don't know what you're trying to say but it just makes no sense. Warthogs were never that great unless they had a gauss cannon or a rocket cannon on them, and frankly they're more useful to distract your opponents rather than to actually get a whole bunch of kills with the turret. Also, it feels like a racing game? I don't know how to respond to that, it's just a nonsensical comparison.
mahlasor
I'm sorry but most of your complaints are just plain false or BS. This sounds a lot like the complaints of a guy who just doesn't understand the game very well and isn't that good at it.
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