RE5 VS mode actually was on the disc from the start!

http://xboxlive.ign.com/articles/970/970396p1.html

This makes it even harder to justify spending money on that DLC. I wasn't buying it in the first place. I'd rather something that actually expands the story, like going back to play that Chris/Jill Flashback scene. I hope these unlock codes don't become a new trend. :(

The whole gaming industry has been corrupted with this "DLC" CRAP, thanks for bringing this into the light dude.

God thats stupid. The gaming industry it going downhill with this DLC crap.

So were the Street Fighter 4 costumes. I'm not paying upwards of 5 bucks for a 324 kb file that's readily available on the disc. Doomtime

exactly, game developers are now making you pay for game modes that should already be on the disc at launch, does this make sense ? sooner or later their gonna start charging us for the campaign or story mode lol 8).

I'm not sure how I feel about paying to unlock things on a disc I already bought, but consider this counterpoint: A friend of mine has a 20 GB hard drive that he's gradually filled up with saves, arcade games, Rock Band tracks, etc. Now his drive is getting pretty dang close to full and he's dreading having to buy a 120 GB drive, because those things are pricy. He got RE5 for his birthday and is really enjoying it, and is psyched to play the new versus mode. In his case, it's actually better that the content is already on the disc. For a nominal fee, he can enjoy expanded content (which is what DLC is) without having to sacrifice his precious hard drive space.

I'm as wary as the next gamer about the precedent set by charging for content already on the disc, but I recognize there are times when this can actually be a good thing. You can fit a hell of a lot on a game disc these days, so why shouldn't developers use some of this space for their planned "DLC"? Their game will still be reviewed independently of this content, like any other game with DLC, and when they do "release" the extra content, players won't have to give up more space to a game they've already bought at retail. Hard drive space is a resource in its own right. Does anyone bristle at the fact that publishers are demanding not only your cash dollars, but a share of your storage resources as well?

yes the content is already on the disc, but if you want to get technical every DLC you have ever downloaded was already on the disc of the game you bought it for, take Fallout 3 for example, the pitt was already on the disc in the form of character models, items, and enviroment textures, your just downloading a code telling those things where to go and how to act with exception to the new weapons armor and so on that bethesda added so yes the resident evil multiplayer is already on the disk but that is only because it barrows the characters maps items and etc.. from story/merc's mode, you still need that code telling the things on the disc to act a certain way

Hmm...all the money for the DLC.

Thing that pisses me off is that the Capcom reps try to tip toe around the subject by saying some crap about 'oh it what outside the scope of the game blah blah" really? I find it amazing that the team was able to do this whole new "out of scope" project and make it just under 2MB. Hey i shouldn't care though i didn't like RE5 anyways. I guess people can enjoying slowly roatating towards shooting someone.

Board Admin, you'd be surprised at the amount of things game developers take out a month or two before a game comes out in stores, I can also garuantee you that all characters and costumes etc. that are available via DLC were already on the prototype disc and taken out before launch...JUST TO MAKE A FEW EXTRA DOLLARS OFF IT.:P

Board Admin, you'd be surprised at the amount things game developers take out a week or two before a game comes out in stores, all characters and costumes etc. that are available via DLC were, i garuantee you, were already on the prototype disc and taken out before launch...JUST TO MAKE A FEW EXTRA DOLLARS OFF IT.

DranzarTypeF

I'm not sure how I feel about paying to unlock things on a disc I already bought, but consider this counterpoint: A friend of mine has a 20 GB hard drive that he's gradually filled up with saves, arcade games, Rock Band tracks, etc. Now his drive is getting pretty dang close to full and he's dreading having to buy a 120 GB drive, because those things are pricy. He got RE5 for his birthday and is really enjoying it, and is psyched to play the new versus mode. In his case, it's actually better that the content is already on the disc. For a nominal fee, he can enjoy expanded content (which is what DLC is) without having to sacrifice his precious hard drive space.

I'm as wary as the next gamer about the precedent set by charging for content already on the disc, but I recognize there are times when this can actually be a good thing. You can fit a hell of a lot on a game disc these days, so why shouldn't developers use some of this space for their planned "DLC"? Their game will still be reviewed independently of this content, like any other game with DLC, and when they do "release" the extra content, players won't have to give up more space to a game they've already bought at retail. Hard drive space is a resource in its own right. Does anyone bristle at the fact that publishers are demanding not only your cash dollars, but a share of your storage resources as well?

Chris_Watters

Your logic is flawed dear sir! While it is nice not having to waste HDD space on DLC, the issue here is that the content in question ISN'T DLC. It's already there, and if we had gamesharks for these systems we could play it as we pleased. Think: what if you bought a lawnmower? What if it came with a nice overdrive mode? But suppose that the nice attachment was chained up, and then the person you bought it from told you that they'd sell you the key, otherwise you could use it. You'd say, ludicrious, I bought it, I should be able to use the features that come inside of it.

Now here is the same thing, but the items are digital, so we are blind folded.

I have more to say, but I gotta go.....

Wow this is the same lvl of ea charging for cheats in the new nfs

[QUOTE="Chris_Watters"]

I'm not sure how I feel about paying to unlock things on a disc I already bought, but consider this counterpoint: A friend of mine has a 20 GB hard drive that he's gradually filled up with saves, arcade games, Rock Band tracks, etc. Now his drive is getting pretty dang close to full and he's dreading having to buy a 120 GB drive, because those things are pricy. He got RE5 for his birthday and is really enjoying it, and is psyched to play the new versus mode. In his case, it's actually better that the content is already on the disc. For a nominal fee, he can enjoy expanded content (which is what DLC is) without having to sacrifice his precious hard drive space.

I'm as wary as the next gamer about the precedent set by charging for content already on the disc, but I recognize there are times when this can actually be a good thing. You can fit a hell of a lot on a game disc these days, so why shouldn't developers use some of this space for their planned "DLC"? Their game will still be reviewed independently of this content, like any other game with DLC, and when they do "release" the extra content, players won't have to give up more space to a game they've already bought at retail. Hard drive space is a resource in its own right. Does anyone bristle at the fact that publishers are demanding not only your cash dollars, but a share of your storage resources as well?

Your logic is flawed dear sir! While it is nice not having to waste HDD space on DLC, the issue here is that the content in question ISN'T DLC. It's already there, and if we had gamesharks for these systems we could play it as we pleased. Think: what if you bought a lawnmower? What if it came with a nice overdrive mode? But suppose that the nice attachment was chained up, and then the person you bought it from told you that they'd sell you the key, otherwise you could use it. You'd say, ludicrious, I bought it, I should be able to use the features that come inside of it.

Now here is the same thing, but the items are digital, so we are blind folded.

I have more to say, but I gotta go.....

I always hear about game developers checking forums frequently to keep their finger on the pulse of gamers so I really hope that people from Capcom are paying attention to this thread and others like it.

Capcom, listen up: People generally do not like paying for things they already own, it doesn't matter that it's only $5, it's the principle of the thing.

Have you ever heard, "Yesterday Ipaid formytoaster again, sure I already paid for it in full but if I wanna toast my Pop-Tarts I have to pay a little more for the luxury, oh well!" No, and there's a damn good reason for that. Capcom needs tocome back down to planet earth and stop trying to screw the gamers responsible for their success. Yeesh!

Your logic is flawed dear sir! While it is nice not having to waste HDD space on DLC, the issue here is that the content in question ISN'T DLC. It's already there, and if we had gamesharks for these systems we could play it as we pleased. Think: what if you bought a lawnmower? What if it came with a nice overdrive mode? But suppose that the nice attachment was chained up, and then the person you bought it from told you that they'd sell you the key, otherwise you could use it. You'd say, ludicrious, I bought it, I should be able to use the features that come inside of it.

Now here is the same thing, but the items are digital, so we are blind folded.

I have more to say, but I gotta go.....Narroo

Smart Kid 8), the moral of the story here is that always keep the little things you see during the demo in mind, cause often times that content isn't there when you purchase the game. Also the gaming community will continue to suffer with this issue because sooner or later they'll start charging you for the storymode or campaign.

ha..well that sucks

Dlc is good but in this case its just a way to suck more money out of us

Wow this is the same lvl of ea charging for cheats in the new nfs

nukefarmer

I generally don't like the idea of DLC, but this kind of DLC is just plain ludicrous.

The only kind of DLC that can be tolerated is the one that requires the developers to work after releasing the game, creating new content. In that case, the extra price is justified by the extra work expended by the developers.

In this case, however, it boils down to a scheme made to raise the revenue from the game without that extra effort by the developers. Next thing you know they'll be charging extra if you want to play the last level. Or if you want a machine gun instead of a pistol.

I am of the opinion that we, as gamers, should not condone this behaviour.

[QUOTE="Chris_Watters"]

I'm not sure how I feel about paying to unlock things on a disc I already bought, but consider this counterpoint: A friend of mine has a 20 GB hard drive that he's gradually filled up with saves, arcade games, Rock Band tracks, etc. Now his drive is getting pretty dang close to full and he's dreading having to buy a 120 GB drive, because those things are pricy. He got RE5 for his birthday and is really enjoying it, and is psyched to play the new versus mode. In his case, it's actually better that the content is already on the disc. For a nominal fee, he can enjoy expanded content (which is what DLC is) without having to sacrifice his precious hard drive space.

I'm as wary as the next gamer about the precedent set by charging for content already on the disc, but I recognize there are times when this can actually be a good thing. You can fit a hell of a lot on a game disc these days, so why shouldn't developers use some of this space for their planned "DLC"? Their game will still be reviewed independently of this content, like any other game with DLC, and when they do "release" the extra content, players won't have to give up more space to a game they've already bought at retail. Hard drive space is a resource in its own right. Does anyone bristle at the fact that publishers are demanding not only your cash dollars, but a share of your storage resources as well?

Narroo

Your logic is flawed dear sir! While it is nice not having to waste HDD space on DLC, the issue here is that the content in question ISN'T DLC. It's already there, and if we had gamesharks for these systems we could play it as we pleased. Think: what if you bought a lawnmower? What if it came with a nice overdrive mode? But suppose that the nice attachment was chained up, and then the person you bought it from told you that they'd sell you the key, otherwise you could use it. You'd say, ludicrious, I bought it, I should be able to use the features that come inside of it.

Now here is the same thing, but the items are digital, so we are blind folded.

I have more to say, but I gotta go.....

But when you bought the lawnmower, you didn't know it had this feature. It played no factor in the price you payed for it, you were perfectly satisfied with it when you bought it. You find out later about the extra feature that you can unlock if you pay an extra $5. It's not necessary, and the feature is somewhat minor, but you were happy before you knew about it and can decide whether or not you want to pay for it.

[QUOTE="Narroo"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Watters"]

I'm not sure how I feel about paying to unlock things on a disc I already bought, but consider this counterpoint: A friend of mine has a 20 GB hard drive that he's gradually filled up with saves, arcade games, Rock Band tracks, etc. Now his drive is getting pretty dang close to full and he's dreading having to buy a 120 GB drive, because those things are pricy. He got RE5 for his birthday and is really enjoying it, and is psyched to play the new versus mode. In his case, it's actually better that the content is already on the disc. For a nominal fee, he can enjoy expanded content (which is what DLC is) without having to sacrifice his precious hard drive space.

I'm as wary as the next gamer about the precedent set by charging for content already on the disc, but I recognize there are times when this can actually be a good thing. You can fit a hell of a lot on a game disc these days, so why shouldn't developers use some of this space for their planned "DLC"? Their game will still be reviewed independently of this content, like any other game with DLC, and when they do "release" the extra content, players won't have to give up more space to a game they've already bought at retail. Hard drive space is a resource in its own right. Does anyone bristle at the fact that publishers are demanding not only your cash dollars, but a share of your storage resources as well?

Englando_IV

Your logic is flawed dear sir! While it is nice not having to waste HDD space on DLC, the issue here is that the content in question ISN'T DLC. It's already there, and if we had gamesharks for these systems we could play it as we pleased. Think: what if you bought a lawnmower? What if it came with a nice overdrive mode? But suppose that the nice attachment was chained up, and then the person you bought it from told you that they'd sell you the key, otherwise you could use it. You'd say, ludicrious, I bought it, I should be able to use the features that come inside of it.

Now here is the same thing, but the items are digital, so we are blind folded.

I have more to say, but I gotta go.....

But when you bought the lawnmower, you didn't know it had this feature. It played no factor in the price you payed for it, you were perfectly satisfied with it when you bought it. You find out later about the extra feature that you can unlock if you pay an extra $5. It's not necessary, and the feature is somewhat minor, but you were happy before you knew about it and can decide whether or not you want to pay for it.

EXCEPT the feature isn't minor, it's a whole new component of the lawnmower, and you were wondering were it was before because you've seen it on previous lawnmoyers made by the same company :D

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[QUOTE="Narroo"]

Your logic is flawed dear sir! While it is nice not having to waste HDD space on DLC, the issue here is that the content in question ISN'T DLC. It's already there, and if we had gamesharks for these systems we could play it as we pleased. Think: what if you bought a lawnmower? What if it came with a nice overdrive mode? But suppose that the nice attachment was chained up, and then the person you bought it from told you that they'd sell you the key, otherwise you could use it. You'd say, ludicrious, I bought it, I should be able to use the features that come inside of it.

Now here is the same thing, but the items are digital, so we are blind folded.

I have more to say, but I gotta go.....

DranzarTypeF

But when you bought the lawnmower, you didn't know it had this feature. It played no factor in the price you payed for it, you were perfectly satisfied with it when you bought it. You find out later about the extra feature that you can unlock if you pay an extra $5. It's not necessary, and the feature is somewhat minor, but you were happy before you knew about it and can decide whether or not you want to pay for it.

EXCEPT the feature isn't minor, it's a whole new component of the lawnmower, and you were wondering were it was before because you've seen it on previous lawnmoyers made by the same company :D

No, actually, you've never seen it before on lawn mowers made by the same company.

Resident Evil has never had multiplayer.

[QUOTE="DranzarTypeF"]

[QUOTE="Englando_IV"]

But when you bought the lawnmower, you didn't know it had this feature. It played no factor in the price you payed for it, you were perfectly satisfied with it when you bought it. You find out later about the extra feature that you can unlock if you pay an extra $5. It's not necessary, and the feature is somewhat minor, but you were happy before you knew about it and can decide whether or not you want to pay for it.

Englando_IV

EXCEPT the feature isn't minor, it's a whole new component of the lawnmower, and you were wondering were it was before because you've seen it on previous lawnmoyers made by the same company :D

No, actually, you've never seen it before on lawn mowers made by the same company.

Resident Evil has never had multiplayer.

IN THAT CASE ! it's a toss up on wether or not you should pay lol. 8)

Yeah that doesnt surprise me they were talking about VS mode since the game came out. i thought its been out! i sold my copy for more than i paid for it because i was upset when i heard the news.

I'm not sure how I feel about paying to unlock things on a disc I already bought, but consider this counterpoint: A friend of mine has a 20 GB hard drive that he's gradually filled up with saves, arcade games, Rock Band tracks, etc. Now his drive is getting pretty dang close to full and he's dreading having to buy a 120 GB drive, because those things are pricy. He got RE5 for his birthday and is really enjoying it, and is psyched to play the new versus mode. In his case, it's actually better that the content is already on the disc. For a nominal fee, he can enjoy expanded content (which is what DLC is) without having to sacrifice his precious hard drive space.

I'm as wary as the next gamer about the precedent set by charging for content already on the disc, but I recognize there are times when this can actually be a good thing. You can fit a hell of a lot on a game disc these days, so why shouldn't developers use some of this space for their planned "DLC"? Their game will still be reviewed independently of this content, like any other game with DLC, and when they do "release" the extra content, players won't have to give up more space to a game they've already bought at retail. Hard drive space is a resource in its own right. Does anyone bristle at the fact that publishers are demanding not only your cash dollars, but a share of your storage resources as well?

Chris_Watters

It says your an admin so you probably know most of what youre talking about. Your sure that the character models and items and everything for the Pitt were already on the disc? Im not so sure about that.

Ultimate Team was certainly not already on FIFA 09 - and the Oblivion expansions are also not anywhere on the disc. I bet theres truth both ways.

But weird find and a totally good topic and one we should all get to the bottom of.

Otherwise yes, they wil start charging for the campaign, lol.

That sucks. I'm not buying, I was planning on it but not anymore.

The only way I would buy the DLC is if it came with new outfits, ora Seperate Ways for Josh (Like they did with Ada in RE4).

What next? For RE6, will Capcom release an empty disk in which you must download all content for another $60?

What a Crock!!!!!

yes the content is already on the disc, but if you want to get technical every DLC you have ever downloaded was already on the disc of the game you bought it for, take Fallout 3 for example, the pitt was already on the disc in the form of character models, items, and enviroment textures, your just downloading a code telling those things where to go and how to act with exception to the new weapons armor and so on that bethesda added so yes the resident evil multiplayer is already on the disk but that is only because it barrows the characters maps items and etc.. from story/merc's mode, you still need that code telling the things on the disc to act a certain way

JayQproductions

sorry, but I think you are wrong. Sure the basic game codeis allready on the disc, but DLC is called DOWNLOADABLE content for reason. When you buy a rock band song, the 5 note system is still in the game, but is the song allready on the disc before you bought it? You see, the whole buisness behind any entertainment is thatyou make something using money, and then hope toearn more then you used. Thats whyevery weekharmonixputs out tracks. They just worked hard and bought the license for the song, but now they are goingto earn 5X as much moneyas they speny. Since this RE5 mode was done and puton thedisc before the game came out , the same resourcesthat were used to make the regular campain were also used tomake the versus mode.Theversus mode is not DLC, its on game contentthat you (the consumer) just payed for by buying the disc. If capcom really felt that the one mode cost so much to produce, they should ofjust priced the game at 65 dollars at retail. But that would be silly, wouldnt it. :)

the way i see it is we pay 60 bucks for a brand new game, thats frikin expensive compared to how games used to be and on top of that i think if we pay for the game we shouldnt have to pay for everything that comes with it i think all DLC should be free i mean were already dropping plenty of cash to buy their game to begin with, now developers are holding back on purpose to get more money for each games so some games you spend 70-90 bucks for the FULL game that hsould have been there to begin with

Dodgy c****.

I bought it and it's awesome. I've been playing it with my friends for a couple hours now. And for $5 it's a steal. Idk why people complain about this. It was developed after the initial game was created and did take extra time and resources to create. They could have just blown it out of their minds and not cared but instead they charged a very small fee compared to other dlc on xbox live. If it was some Microsoft owned company that did it i probably wouldnt have bought it but Capcom has given me some of the best games I have ever played so contributing a few extra bucks to them isnt that big a deal.

That is ridiculous. I will still be getting it though, along with the halo maps.

I just ahve to let you guys know that me and my friend beat chapter 5-3 (Jill and Wesker battle) only dieing 24xs. It was some insane teamwork and amazing dodging skills by me. Never again will I do that level on professional. Only have 2-3 and all 6 to go :) hopefully we will beat it tomorrow. That troll is really hard.

So now we're being charged to unlock content already on the disc?

My respect fot Capcom just took a nosedive.

I kind of feel ripped off I had to pay $140 for the game where I live and now 400 ms points for the mp on the disc

well im defenitley not getting dlc now.

im offended at this, paying for dlc is pretty freakin ridiculous as it is in its current state.