NInja Gaiden II is just not the same...

All right so let me just start by saying that Ninja Gaiden had me hooked from the very first fight. The fast paced visceral combat was awesome, and bloody and just a royal amount of fun. However, from the very first sword swing I knew this game was different. Ninja Gaiden Sigma (thats the version I played) was challenging because it was a dance of exact timing and mastery of your weapons. If you tried the art of button-mashing foo in that game, you were rewarded with a massive load of lost health that didnt instantly regenerate, whereas in this game I just jam my way to severed limbs town and then get rewarded with a cool looking obliteration technique. I know that you cant purely button mash, but anyone who says that this game is less about button mashing than its predecessors is either lieing or just plain stupid. So up through chapter 6 I was having a blast. The game was still bloody and awesome (though the bosses were cheap sometimes) and I was having a blast. When I reached the end of chapter 6 I said to myself "Wow, a difficult chapter, but not overly so with a reasonably challenging boss fight...did they put this in by accident?"

Then I moved on to chapter 7. It was a bit on the easy side after battling through all the werewolves but still, it was fun, challenging, but still remained fair. Even the boss at the end of the chapter (meaning Genshin) was fair. And then I reached the boss fight of chapter 7, part 2. I like to call him the gigantic gay turtle of doom. You have to kill this gigantic red turtle, and he has a myriad of attack, some of which are fair, but some of which are unbelievably cheap. However, it wasnt the first part of the fight I had a problem with. I mean it was hard, sure, but I could deal with it. However, all of a sudden he realized that a ninja was carving up his face and turned into the gigantic gay LAVA turtle of doom. After that the battle just got unbelievably cheap. First of all he almost never stops launching these little fiery boulders everywhere which often hit you and make you stagger, second he uses his metroid prime style roll up into a ball and roll around the arena for a few minutes until he hits you move and then if you try to attack his most vulnerable spot he grabs you in a long-ass attack that takes out almost all of your health. However, at long last I finally defeated him, and I was rejoicing, the BASTARD THING BLEW UP!

No, I'm sorry, he didnt just blow up. He ****ing exploded and he took all of my health with him. I hadnt equipped my Talisman of Rebirth, so I had to do the whole ****ing fight over again, and I had to waste my talisman the second time around. How the **** is that fair? I mean, what's next, a boss who decides to kill me with a 1-hit massively lame attack because her favorite show is on TV and she cant be bothered with fighting me? Sigma always has this habbit of making you understand that you lost because you werent good enough, however this game lets you know that you lost because it hates you and wants to be cheap. If this is what I can expect from future chapters, I think I am going to return my copy of the game. It's not that I have never played challenging games (Metal Slug, Devil May Cry 3, NGS, Castlevania) but this isnt difficult, this is cheap, and this game proves that there is a very clear difference.

Its not cheap at all imo, it just takes alot of skill. I found the last Ninja Gaiden to be harder personally.

Its one of the hardest games out there but its far from cheap imo, just takes alot of practise and skill.

a boss that blows up at the end of the fight and takes your health out? Doesnt sound fair to me... of course I just went and looked at youtube and learned that if you block the attack then you dont take damage....cuz that makes perfect sense, blocking an explosion by raising your sword... Anyway, they just made some cheap choices.Essian

its just my opinion man, i respect that you think its cheap, but imo its not cheap at all. You can block, just around more, use differnt tactics. Parts of NG2 can be VERY VERY hard, but they just take practise. Its hands downt eh hardest game this gen, a few friedns of mine have broken controllers playing it haha.

Each hard boss or hard part of NG2 has a way of beating it,sometimes it just takes awhile to get the right strategy and do it perfectly.

[QUOTE="Essian"]a boss that blows up at the end of the fight and takes your health out? Doesnt sound fair to me... of course I just went and looked at youtube and learned that if you block the attack then you dont take damage....cuz that makes perfect sense, blocking an explosion by raising your sword... Anyway, they just made some cheap choices.kozzy1234

its just my opinion man, i respect that you think its cheap, but imo its not cheap at all. You can block, just around more, use differnt tactics. Parts of NG2 can be VERY VERY hard, but they just take practise. Its hands downt eh hardest game this gen, a few friedns of mine have broken controllers playing it haha

that's valid. I dunno, I just found that to be cheap, but still I cant get enough of this game. I heard that Incendiary Shuriken are the way to go with these guys, so I guess I will start stocking up.

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[QUOTE="Essian"]a boss that blows up at the end of the fight and takes your health out? Doesnt sound fair to me... of course I just went and looked at youtube and learned that if you block the attack then you dont take damage....cuz that makes perfect sense, blocking an explosion by raising your sword... Anyway, they just made some cheap choices.Essian

its just my opinion man, i respect that you think its cheap, but imo its not cheap at all. You can block, just around more, use differnt tactics. Parts of NG2 can be VERY VERY hard, but they just take practise. Its hands downt eh hardest game this gen, a few friedns of mine have broken controllers playing it haha

that's valid. I dunno, I just found that to be cheap, but still I cant get enough of this game. I heard that Incendiary Shuriken are the way to go with these guys, so I guess I will start stocking up.

Thats a great idea, they are good for that part.No game has frusterated me as much as NG2 has ill admit that haha. When ever i really want to be challenged in a videogame i turn on NG or NG2.

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[QUOTE="Essian"]a boss that blows up at the end of the fight and takes your health out? Doesnt sound fair to me... of course I just went and looked at youtube and learned that if you block the attack then you dont take damage....cuz that makes perfect sense, blocking an explosion by raising your sword... Anyway, they just made some cheap choices.Essian

its just my opinion man, i respect that you think its cheap, but imo its not cheap at all. You can block, just around more, use differnt tactics. Parts of NG2 can be VERY VERY hard, but they just take practise. Its hands downt eh hardest game this gen, a few friedns of mine have broken controllers playing it haha

that's valid. I dunno, I just found that to be cheap, but still I cant get enough of this game. I heard that Incendiary Shuriken are the way to go with these guys, so I guess I will start stocking up.

Nope, it's not the same thing, it's faster, tougher and better that the first game. It is just like the old Ninja Gaiden games, you need to recognize the attack patterns of the enemies and adapt your own attack and defence to defeat them. It's not a button mashing affair either, even in the normal difficulty setting it requires to be played with some skill, now try to survive just button mashing in Mentor or in Master Ninja and even a group of two foes will kill you easily in no time. NGII is not a cheap game, it's just as challenging as the old school games of the series.

If you defeat the Armadillo fast you don't have to deal with it's second attack pattern for much time until it's dead. On the other hand, if you keep running and attacking from afar, the boss fight will be lenghty and harder. And about the explosion... well, it was fun the first time, mostly because it was unexpected, just beat the turtle again and try to do something to avoid the explosion. It's even more fun when you have to kill two of them later in the game.

NG2 is flawed and buggy, but its 20 times better than the first one in every single way

the core gameplay is amazing and i hope more games will copy it

what he says is true my fellow gamers.

the giant gay fiery turtle of "blow the crapoutta you" boss IS really cheap.

{you get to see him again.. surprise! theres two chucking lava at you now! that'll teach you to think you know what you're doing.}

but it didnt stop me from going through the game with a small smile in my face. kill them all i say!!

yes, some of the bosses are utter bullcr*p, but what you will have when you finally see the credits roll is pure joy.

hahaha. i fell in love with my level3 scythe.