Is the Xbox 360 maxed out visually?

I kinda think it is. I dont really think that we are gonna see games that look a whole lot better on the 360 than what we have now. What do you guys think?

I agree but disagree as well. I just think we could see updates at least, or maybe a new console that allows for games to include more details, larger worlds, better physics, etc. But other than that, maybe just more innovations like Kinect will come out. Either way, I like where the graphics are right now.

Na its not Maxed out just Yet we still have Gears 3 which looks way better than Gears 2 from what ive seen at Comic con . plus if it was Maxed out Microsoft would Start talking of a new system. i id say the Wii is maxed Out before 360.

No, look at previews of RAGE the game being made by ID software. Has better frame rates and better graphics. Much better than the unreal engine that everything is being ran on right now.

No, look at previews of RAGE the game being made by ID software. Has better frame rates and better graphics. Much better than the unreal engine that everything is being ran on right now.

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No, look at previews of RAGE the game being made by ID software. Has better frame rates and better graphics. Much better than the unreal engine that everything is being ran on right now.

Karnage108

with newer engines being developed I dont think its maxed out.

just depends how good they are at optimizing it. most games ARE MAXED OUT because their PC counterparts Look MUCH MUCH better. GTA IV for example is on about medium settings but on my pc I can have alot more details maxxing it

just depends how good they are at optimizing it. most games ARE MAXED OUT because their PC counterparts Look MUCH MUCH better. GTA IV for example is on about medium settings but on my pc I can have alot more details maxxing it

somegtalover

Hmm maybe because your graphics card is better than the xbox 360s? This statement has nothing to do with the graphics engines that are in the works right now that will blow GTA 4 graphics out of the water...

no i disagree completely.

console limitations aren't the problem. graphics are getting better and better in games. and they will continue to get better. its all in the game.

remember DVD may not be blu-ray, but they can support real life graphics (like actual DVD movies lol) so I think they will only stop progressing once games look exactly like real life.

also, graphics themselves aren't the only factor, its game detail aswell. Making landscaping and little items like a piece paper with as much detail as main items, a game will be waaay more visually appealing.

And it also depends on the engine also, but epic games said they will reach the 360 limit with the gears 3.johny300

Maybe they have reached the limits with the unreal engine but the new engines coming out for RAGE and for crysis 2 already show better frame rates and graphics than any gears game.

[QUOTE="johny300"]And it also depends on the engine also, but epic games said they will reach the 360 limit with the gears 3.ZzZEVOLUTIONZzZ

Maybe they have reached the limits with the unreal engine but the new engines coming out for RAGE and for crysis 2 already show better frame rates and graphics than any gears game.

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[QUOTE="johny300"]And it also depends on the engine also, but epic games said they will reach the 360 limit with the gears 3.johny300

Maybe they have reached the limits with the unreal engine but the new engines coming out for RAGE and for crysis 2 already show better frame rates and graphics than any gears game.

Right i do agree that only bethesda will be using the new ID engine and i am sure that the crysis engine will most likely not be up for grabs either. I was just saying that epic games making the statement that they have maxed out the xbox 360 doesnt really mean that. I really think what they had meant is they maxed out the 360 using their engine while other engines being made could be better frame rate wise and graphically.

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Maybe they have reached the limits with the unreal engine but the new engines coming out for RAGE and for crysis 2 already show better frame rates and graphics than any gears game.

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Right i do agree that only bethesda will be using the new ID engine and i am sure that the crysis engine will most likely not be up for grabs either. I was just saying that epic games making the statement that they have maxed out the xbox 360 doesnt really mean that. I really think what they had meant is they maxed out the 360 using their engine while other engines being made could be better frame rate wise and graphically.

No, look at previews of RAGE the game being made by ID software. Has better frame rates and better graphics. Much better than the unreal engine that everything is being ran on right now.

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It's really hard to see the maxed visual performance of a system these days because everything looks nice. It's really hard to tell the difference between a 360 and pc version of a game. The only difference being the games tend to run much better on the 360. I only believe we can push better visuals by limiting the number of things going on in the game. For example if we made a shadow of collossus like game on the 360.

basically what I am saying is that 360 games and pc look almost the same and haven't really made a huge jump in visuals from each other. This means it all depends on how a game is made and what tricks they use to make the visuals really stand out. For example they could make a game and limit the number of things going on in the game and it could have better visuals then any pc game out but could easily be done on pc.

It's really hard to see the maxed visual performance of a system these days because everything looks nice. It's really hard to tell the difference between a 360 and pc version of a game. The only difference being the games tend to run much better on the 360. I only believe we can push better visuals by limiting the number of things going on in the game. For example if we made a shadow of collossus like game on the 360.

basically what I am saying is that 360 games and pc look almost the same and haven't really made a huge jump in visuals from each other. This means it all depends on how a game is made and what tricks they use to make the visuals really stand out. For example they could make a game and limit the number of things going on in the game and it could have better visuals then any pc game out but could easily be done on pc.

zaku101

They may be able to reach the hardware's limit, but they can always develop engines that do so in a better and more impressive manner. I think we'll see improving graphics for quite a while.

It's really hard to see the maxed visual performance of a system these days because everything looks nice. It's really hard to tell the difference between a 360 and pc version of a game. The only difference being the games tend to run much better on the 360. I only believe we can push better visuals by limiting the number of things going on in the game. For example if we made a shadow of collossus like game on the 360.

basically what I am saying is that 360 games and pc look almost the same and haven't really made a huge jump in visuals from each other. This means it all depends on how a game is made and what tricks they use to make the visuals really stand out. For example they could make a game and limit the number of things going on in the game and it could have better visuals then any pc game out but could easily be done on pc.

zaku101

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It's really hard to see the maxed visual performance of a system these days because everything looks nice. It's really hard to tell the difference between a 360 and pc version of a game. The only difference being the games tend to run much better on the 360. I only believe we can push better visuals by limiting the number of things going on in the game. For example if we made a shadow of collossus like game on the 360.

basically what I am saying is that 360 games and pc look almost the same and haven't really made a huge jump in visuals from each other. This means it all depends on how a game is made and what tricks they use to make the visuals really stand out. For example they could make a game and limit the number of things going on in the game and it could have better visuals then any pc game out but could easily be done on pc.

penpusher

Indeed PC processor speeds, memory, and graphics cards can all surpass consoles quite easily. As far as "better looking graphics i would say it depends on the game if you compared gta 4 on the PC to a newer game being released, you know what i mean.

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It's really hard to see the maxed visual performance of a system these days because everything looks nice. It's really hard to tell the difference between a 360 and pc version of a game. The only difference being the games tend to run much better on the 360. I only believe we can push better visuals by limiting the number of things going on in the game. For example if we made a shadow of collossus like game on the 360.

basically what I am saying is that 360 games and pc look almost the same and haven't really made a huge jump in visuals from each other. This means it all depends on how a game is made and what tricks they use to make the visuals really stand out. For example they could make a game and limit the number of things going on in the game and it could have better visuals then any pc game out but could easily be done on pc.

ZzZEVOLUTIONZzZ

Indeed PC processor speeds, memory, and graphics cards can all surpass consoles quite easily. As far as "better looking graphics i would say it depends on the game if you compared gta 4 on the PC to a newer game being released, you know what i mean.

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[QUOTE="penpusher"] ive think you misunderstand slightly ... with games that are on both the 360 and pc most of the time the game is designed with priority towards working on the 360 first and then on the pc owing to the fact that the 360 cant handle what a high end pc could. There are many games out there on pc that the 360 or even ps3 could never hope to manage in their native form. Its a simple fact of gaming that the pc's ability to be upgraded all the time will mean they always outpace consolespenpusher

Indeed PC processor speeds, memory, and graphics cards can all surpass consoles quite easily. As far as "better looking graphics i would say it depends on the game if you compared gta 4 on the PC to a newer game being released, you know what i mean.

I am saying gta 4 looks better on a PC because you can raise the graphics past the xbox 360s. Which is what i stated the processor, memory, and graphics cards in PCs are goingto be better then that of the 360s becaue it came out years ago. If you played gta 4 on max settings on a pc now however and compared it to games coming out soon the console version of newer games would be GTA 4. So obviously games graphics on the console are getting better.

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Indeed PC processor speeds, memory, and graphics cards can all surpass consoles quite easily. As far as "better looking graphics i would say it depends on the game if you compared gta 4 on the PC to a newer game being released, you know what i mean.

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I am saying gta 4 looks better on a PC because you can raise the graphics past the xbox 360s. Which is what i stated the processor, memory, and graphics cards in PCs are goingto be better then that of the 360s becaue it came out years ago. If you played gta 4 on max settings on a pc now however and compared it to games coming out soon the console version of newer games would be GTA 4. So obviously games graphics on the console are getting better.

I hope game makers focus less on making the game look real and more on style and keep graphical error as low as they can.