If KOTOR I and II were for Xbox, why isn't TOR for 360?

I dont get it!!! My computers not good enough to run games! I am MAD!!

It's an MMO. End of story.

Because it's an MMO and they don't work very well on consoles (Due to the controls and hardware limitations), unless we are talking about DCU Online or Final Fantasy XI.

It's an MMO. End of story.

Steameffekt

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It's an MMO. End of story.

idill23

double this

it's an MMO an they know very few people would be willing to pay for gold subscription and a monthly subscribtion for the game, plus the MMO's usually try to go for a "dynamic world" where things constantly change and that would be hard on the xbox because of the patch and update process, they would only be able to change things in the game like once a month and Xbox has limitations on how big updates can be.

DC Universe is on the PS3, Why not TOR?chilly-chill

DC Universe is published by Sony.

TOR is EA, so it's mainly up to them, not MS.

Microsoft has a very closed policy when it comes to MMOs or anything that uses third party servers. Blizzard plans to release Diablo 3 on consoles and are very worried about how generious Microsoft will be when it comes to their service. Also I'd just like to add that it's probably not possible anyway. If it were then it would have been announced for PS3 already seeing how Sony isn't as closed about their service.

Microsoft has a very closed policy when it comes to MMOs or anything that uses third party servers. Blizzard plans to release Diablo 3 on consoles and are very worried about how generious Microsoft will be when it comes to their service. Also I'd just like to add that it's probably not possible anyway. If it were then it would have been announced for PS3 already seeing how Sony isn't as closed about their service.

Alx1231

FFXI was on 360.Steameffekt

FFXI IS on the 360, it's still pretty active.

[QUOTE="Alx1231"]

Microsoft has a very closed policy when it comes to MMOs or anything that uses third party servers. Blizzard plans to release Diablo 3 on consoles and are very worried about how generious Microsoft will be when it comes to their service. Also I'd just like to add that it's probably not possible anyway. If it were then it would have been announced for PS3 already seeing how Sony isn't as closed about their service.

Steameffekt

[QUOTE="Steameffekt"][QUOTE="Alx1231"]

Microsoft has a very closed policy when it comes to MMOs or anything that uses third party servers. Blizzard plans to release Diablo 3 on consoles and are very worried about how generious Microsoft will be when it comes to their service. Also I'd just like to add that it's probably not possible anyway. If it were then it would have been announced for PS3 already seeing how Sony isn't as closed about their service.

Alx1231

[QUOTE="Alx1231"][QUOTE="Steameffekt"] FFXI was on 360.Steameffekt

[QUOTE="Steameffekt"][QUOTE="Alx1231"] Yeah I know. That was in the beginning when Microsoft was a little more open and xbox live wasn't fully fleshed out. Square was trying to get FF14 on xbox as well but Microsoft wouldn't go for the same deal. FF14 wasn't meant to be exclusive to the PS3, Microsoft just wouldn't open xbox live up as much as they did with FF11. Alx1231

A really goood Star Wars game for the console would be awesome. But you know what pops Microsofts greedy little knuckles? That kinect game they are working on, where to get from one spot to the next, you put your arms behind you like tinkerbell. Uhmmm... genius's the lot of them...can't get kinect - the game - and the controller to work in a reasonable fashion. Good grief just give me a controller in hand if that's your plan for running from one spot to the next; forget kinect ever existed.

And lets not forget their vision for Ghost Recon: To shoot, just open your palm in front of you. To stop shooting, just close your palm. LMAO. Might as well put a mic on ya and yell, "pew pew pew, your dead! I got ya!" seeing as how they don't intend to put some peripheral device in your hand, like say, a light gun. For the life of me, I can only envision idiotlets having fun opening his palm to shoot, closing his palm to stop shooting.

Okay, I ranted. I hope some developer who I have not heard about yet is indeed making great games in the traditions of Bioware. But at this time, I've seen nothing of the likes on the horizon.

Not that I want to make this a long thread but Star Trek Online was going to the be on the 360 along with the PC. Having hindsight, we were spared that POS due to some disagreement between Cryptic and Microsoft.

And finally, Phantasy Star Online was on the 360, PS2, and PC. Although the content was shallow and the developers petered out in the end, the fact that the 360 had built in mic made the 360 version the funnest game to play.

In answer to the threads question? At this time Microsoft is drilling every developer to use the kinect in their game, no matter the stupid factor. Apparently developers are listening. And that is why you won't see a triple A developer give Microsoft the time of day.

TOR is out the door. Wouldn't that mean an entire development team is free to work on the NEXT big project? Anyone got a hint of a leak on this?

I'm not even a huge fan of MMO's anyway, I just commented because I want to see an HD remake of KOTOR but I know it's not gonna happen :(chilly-chill

Because its not a game related to the KOTOR series? It simply has "Old" and "Republic" in the title.bonesawisready5

The Old Republic >>>> what KOTOR 3 would have been. TOR is essentially 8 singleplayer games in one. There are eight unique, completely original class stories that are 100+ hours in length, that alone is easily double what KOTOR 3 would have been. If you play all 8, you'd be getting like 20x the playtime you would have gotten from KOTOR 3, and it's all quality, well written story, with great voice acting, good twists, and a great universe. The game also looks amazing for an MMO and the sound/music is fantastic, obviously.

The Old Republic >>>> what KOTOR 3 would have been. TOR is essentially 8 singleplayer games in one. There are eight unique, completely original class stories that are 100+ hours in length, that alone is easily double what KOTOR 3 would have been. If you play all 8, you'd be getting like 20x the playtime you would have gotten from KOTOR 3, and it's all quality, well written story, with great voice acting, good twists, and a great universe. The game also looks amazing for an MMO and the sound/music is fantastic, obviously.

elpooz

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The Old Republic >>>> what KOTOR 3 would have been. TOR is essentially 8 singleplayer games in one. There are eight unique, completely original class stories that are 100+ hours in length, that alone is easily double what KOTOR 3 would have been. If you play all 8, you'd be getting like 20x the playtime you would have gotten from KOTOR 3, and it's all quality, well written story, with great voice acting, good twists, and a great universe. The game also looks amazing for an MMO and the sound/music is fantastic, obviously.

chilly-chill

Except for, you know, the first story-based MMO experience and full voice acting :roll:. What did the last huge MMO do in terms of innovation?

WoW brought absolutely nothing new to the table, and was still a very enjoyable MMO and the standard for this generation. It was an upgraded Everquest.

I don't get what people like you expected. In platformers, you run, jump and occasionally fight something. In MMOs, you quest, do group content and do PVP. Every genre has a core set of tenants that guides it, and MMOs are no different.

SWTOR having such a large dedication to story and immersion does more than enough to set it apart and make it feel both original and different from the last big MMO. Yes, combat and the core gameplay are the same, that's to be expected when playing a game in the same genre. Just like there are action-adventures, for example, that have steered away from those core tenants and done something different, there are MMOs that have done combat and other things differently than WoW, SWTOR, etc... so if you want that, go play those MMOs. Guild Wars 2's combat is entirely different than anything we've really seen before so play that when it comes out.

MMO players are really just getting needy if they are saying SWTOR has done nothing new. Go play the game, the inclusion and heavy presence of story, the voice acting, and strong writing/dialouge makes it play very differently from MMOs in the past. Biowarejust completely revamped the MMO experience with a fantastic twist, and people are crying about combat and questing being similar to WoW and other MMOs... it's pretty pathetic. This is exactly what MMO players should want, something that heavily switches the experience up, yet they're still crying. Infinite SMH.

I'm not even a huge fan of MMO's anyway, I just commented because I want to see an HD remake of KOTOR but I know it's not gonna happen :(chilly-chill

Yeah, Id like that too.

[QUOTE="chilly-chill"][QUOTE="elpooz"]

The Old Republic >>>> what KOTOR 3 would have been. TOR is essentially 8 singleplayer games in one. There are eight unique, completely original class stories that are 100+ hours in length, that alone is easily double what KOTOR 3 would have been. If you play all 8, you'd be getting like 20x the playtime you would have gotten from KOTOR 3, and it's all quality, well written story, with great voice acting, good twists, and a great universe. The game also looks amazing for an MMO and the sound/music is fantastic, obviously.

elpooz

Except for, you know, the first story-based MMO experience and full voice acting :roll:. What did the last huge MMO do in terms of innovation?

WoW brought absolutely nothing new to the table, and was still a very enjoyable MMO and the standard for this generation. It was an upgraded Everquest.

I don't get what people like you expected. In platformers, you run, jump and occasionally fight something. In MMOs, you quest, do group content and do PVP. Every genre has a core set of tenants that guides it, and MMOs are no different.

SWTOR having such a large dedication to story and immersion does more than enough to set it apart and make it feel both original and different from the last big MMO. Yes, combat and the core gameplay are the same, that's to be expected when playing a game in the same genre. Just like there are action-adventures, for example, that have steered away from those core tenants and done something different, there are MMOs that have done combat and other things differently than WoW, SWTOR, etc... so if you want that, go play those MMOs. Guild Wars 2's combat is entirely different than anything we've really seen before so play that when it comes out.

MMO players are really just getting needy if they are saying SWTOR has done nothing new. Go play the game, the inclusion and heavy presence of story, the voice acting, and strong writing/dialouge makes it play very differently from MMOs in the past. Biowarejust completely revamped the MMO experience with a fantastic twist, and people are crying about combat and questing being similar to WoW and other MMOs... it's pretty pathetic. This is exactly what MMO players should want, something that heavily switches the experience up, yet they're still crying. Infinite SMH.

[QUOTE="elpooz"]

[QUOTE="chilly-chill"] It brings nothing new to MMO's, why couldnt they make something innovative and great to MMO genre?chilly-chill

Except for, you know, the first story-based MMO experience and full voice acting :roll:. What did the last huge MMO do in terms of innovation?

WoW brought absolutely nothing new to the table, and was still a very enjoyable MMO and the standard for this generation. It was an upgraded Everquest.

I don't get what people like you expected. In platformers, you run, jump and occasionally fight something. In MMOs, you quest, do group content and do PVP. Every genre has a core set of tenants that guides it, and MMOs are no different.

SWTOR having such a large dedication to story and immersion does more than enough to set it apart and make it feel both original and different from the last big MMO. Yes, combat and the core gameplay are the same, that's to be expected when playing a game in the same genre. Just like there are action-adventures, for example, that have steered away from those core tenants and done something different, there are MMOs that have done combat and other things differently than WoW, SWTOR, etc... so if you want that, go play those MMOs. Guild Wars 2's combat is entirely different than anything we've really seen before so play that when it comes out.

MMO players are really just getting needy if they are saying SWTOR has done nothing new. Go play the game, the inclusion and heavy presence of story, the voice acting, and strong writing/dialouge makes it play very differently from MMOs in the past. Biowarejust completely revamped the MMO experience with a fantastic twist, and people are crying about combat and questing being similar to WoW and other MMOs... it's pretty pathetic. This is exactly what MMO players should want, something that heavily switches the experience up, yet they're still crying. Infinite SMH.

It looks really good but we'll have to see. There are tons of games that have promised tons of awesome stuff like GW2 has, and then not come up with it in the final product. I think it will end up being pretty amazing though.

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]Because its not a game related to the KOTOR series? It simply has "Old" and "Republic" in the title.Steameffekt

[QUOTE="Steameffekt"][QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]Because its not a game related to the KOTOR series? It simply has "Old" and "Republic" in the title.bonesawisready5

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"][QUOTE="Steameffekt"] You sir fail. It is related to KOTOR. Steameffekt

This ^

And I heard Revan's ghost is actually in the game, and that his armor is obtainable as well.

Also, the events of the KOTOR games are mentioned in SWTOR and there are general references to large events from that time period (the destruction of Taris, for example).

And worlds from the KOTOR games are also in this game... Nar Shadaa, Taris, etc...

So yeah...

[QUOTE="Steameffekt"][QUOTE="bonesawisready5"] How? It takes place a long time after those games, doesn't have any of the characters. It simply has "Old Republic" in the title. It doesn't play exactly like it. Heck, there is no "Knights" in the title. It's an entirely different game. It by no means has to cater to the people who enjoyed KOTOR because it is an totally different IPelpooz

This ^

And I heard Revan's ghost is actually in the game, and that his armor is obtainable as well.

Also, the events of the KOTOR games are mentioned in SWTOR and there are general references to large events from that time period (the destruction of Taris, for example).

And worlds from the KOTOR games are also in this game... Nar Shadaa, Taris, etc...

So yeah...