Anyone else feel like everyone's writing off the new Xbox wayyyyy too early?

Considering, you know, we really don't know all that much about the system, and Microsoft said before their reveal that e3 would be the place they'd show off most of their games, which obviously wasn't enough of a direct statement to keep people from understanding they wouldn't show that many at the reveal.

As far as used games go, I've been in total agreement that developers should be getting some sort of compensation for the fact that their million dollar efforts are being sold a week after release preowned at CrookStop 5$ cheaper, but I think everbody completely understands the other side of the argument; that said, we still know absolutely nothing about this policy.

So, does anyone else agree that everyone *might* be over reacting just a little bit too early??

No 'might' about it, but this is what irrational people do. 

Don't really care about the used game thing. I actually only purchase games USED (for the most part) but wouldn't go broke paying normal prices. I'd support it more if it meant less paid DLC or better games, so time will tell but I won't hold my breath.

Regarding your question, yes, people are reacting far too soon. The release was for shareholders and to build excitement leading in to E3. I'm getting both systems, if even for a few exclusives I'd be happy to replace my cable box with the X1 as it appears to be much more fluid. I'm sure they will impress us with some games at E3 and hopefully some new IP's.

At least wait until E3 to learn more about the Console and the Games. Also MS has said they are going to explain more details about the system and all the questions surrounding it . 

I'm just tiring of having to have gold in order to use app's that already have a subscribtion tied to them. Why should you have to pay to play online when you already pay for internet? They've already said they are focusing more on things other than the actual games.  I can't say everyone else is writing off Xbox too early. But I am writing it off based on what I know about the system so far and my experiences with the 360 lately.

I hate the same things I see and hear people complaining about, when it comes to the Xbox One. Once Microsoft shows off the games the console will have via E3, I guarantee the fanboys and Xbox owners will be coming back.

No, not really. I got tired of a lot of things MS was doing with the 360 a long, long time ago.  The direction they are heading in with Xbox One is not where i want to go.  For me, it does not matter what games they show at E3. I dont want to pay for Kinect. I dont have cable television or like the NFL. Why should i pay for these things or features i will never use??  Im done with MS and I am moving on to other platforms for my gaming needs. 

No, not really. I got tired of a lot of things MS was doing with the 360 a long, long time ago.  The direction they are heading in with Xbox One is not where i want to go.  For me, it does not matter what games they show at E3. I dont want to pay for Kinect. I dont have cable television or like the NFL. Why should i pay for these things or features i will never use??  Im done with MS and I am moving on to other platforms for my gaming needs. 

Videodogg

I used to love the 360, effortless gaming, pop in a disk and go.

- then online pass

- then ads

- then kinect

I don't pay $50/year to be hassled, harassed and spied on by my own system.

Yes, I get it, there's nobody on the other end of the camera staring at me, but why is there a camera in the first place, I don't want to wave my arms around to game, I don't want the Xbox to say "oh it's you again, nice to see you."

A game console needs to be exactly that.

Not some overdesigned, underpowered piece of crap with 8000 bells and whistles.

This gen I think pretty much all console companies shot themselves in the foot.

1. Ninty with their "tablet controller"

2. Sony with their "ps4 facebook"

3. Xbox with "wave your hand around, ok now move your leg" no stfu, I'm not moving anything, get out of my house

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No, MS has done a great job of making that decision easy for most people by choosing the casuals over the corebase. I know what some are going to say....'WAIT UNTIL E3''!! But why should we have to wait? The introduction should have been for us and E3 should have been for the casuals, because if you talk to the target group that MS is aiming at...most of them still see the Xbox as a toy for kids.

Aside from the kinect, used games and always online issues that haven't been confirmed I think the XB1 is going to be a good system....it just won't be something that I'm gonna get until somethings are cleared up.

No, MS has done a great job of making that decision easy for most people by choosing the casuals over the corebase. I know what some are going to say....'WAIT UNTIL E3''!! But why should we have to wait? The introduction should have been for us and E3 should have been for the casuals, because if you talk to the target group that MS is aiming at...most of them still see the Xbox as a toy for kids.

Aside from the kinect, used games and always online issues that haven't been confirmed I think the XB1 is going to be a good system....it just won't be something that I'm gonna get until somethings are cleared up.

MarcRecon

[QUOTE="MarcRecon"]

No, MS has done a great job of making that decision easy for most people by choosing the casuals over the corebase. I know what some are going to say....'WAIT UNTIL E3''!! But why should we have to wait? The introduction should have been for us and E3 should have been for the casuals, because if you talk to the target group that MS is aiming at...most of them still see the Xbox as a toy for kids.

Aside from the kinect, used games and always online issues that haven't been confirmed I think the XB1 is going to be a good system....it just won't be something that I'm gonna get until somethings are cleared up.

XxAK47xX

What makes you think that I'm all on board with Sony? They still have a few questions I need answered also, MS has kinda let the cat out of the bag "BUT" it's what sony ISN'T saying is what got me just as nervous!:|...Either way, they next-gen isn't looking good for core-gamers which is cool by me because I got loads of 360 and PS3 games to catch up on...heck I might even sit out next-gen if certain rumors turn out to be true.

I'm not knocking anyone who decides to go next-gen but that gotta go both ways...don't knock people(not saying you)who decide not too.

i'm fed up with kinect.

[QUOTE="XxAK47xX"][QUOTE="MarcRecon"]

No, MS has done a great job of making that decision easy for most people by choosing the casuals over the corebase. I know what some are going to say....'WAIT UNTIL E3''!! But why should we have to wait? The introduction should have been for us and E3 should have been for the casuals, because if you talk to the target group that MS is aiming at...most of them still see the Xbox as a toy for kids.

Aside from the kinect, used games and always online issues that haven't been confirmed I think the XB1 is going to be a good system....it just won't be something that I'm gonna get until somethings are cleared up.

 

MarcRecon

What makes you think that I'm all on board with Sony? They still have a few questions I need answered also, MS has kinda let the cat out of the bag "BUT" it's what sony ISN'T saying is what got me just as nervous!:|...Either way, they next-gen isn't looking good for core-gamers which is cool by me because I got loads of 360 and PS3 games to catch up on...heck I might even sit out next-gen if certain rumors turn out to be true.

I'm not knocking anyone who decides to go next-gen but that gotta go both ways...don't knock people(not saying you)who decide not too.

So im not saying your a fan boy. Its just taht these are the only two game systems that are competing so its 50/50. Next gen is looking pretty cool righ now. The console is not putting gaming aside. It going to have a shit load of games. more that the core gamer will be able to afford. when E3 comes in... i think 12 days peopel will be able to get a bigger chunck of the story. 

Definitely!  Even though I personally was somewhat disappointed with the 'reveal' I really didn't expect to be blown away.  I pretty much try to not write off any console.  I never buy a console at launch, but I usually end up getting them all eventually. So, I try to keep an open mind, so many systems do not come into their own til multiple years in existence.  

[QUOTE="MarcRecon"]

[QUOTE="XxAK47xX"] the reason you can wait is because neither game system is out. Its not like the ps3 is already out and you are waiting for xbox to finish up. XxAK47xX

What makes you think that I'm all on board with Sony? They still have a few questions I need answered also, MS has kinda let the cat out of the bag "BUT" it's what sony ISN'T saying is what got me just as nervous!:|...Either way, they next-gen isn't looking good for core-gamers which is cool by me because I got loads of 360 and PS3 games to catch up on...heck I might even sit out next-gen if certain rumors turn out to be true.

I'm not knocking anyone who decides to go next-gen but that gotta go both ways...don't knock people(not saying you)who decide not too.

So im not saying your a fan boy. Its just taht these are the only two game systems that are competing so its 50/50. Next gen is looking pretty cool righ now. The console is not putting gaming aside. It going to have a shit load of games. more that the core gamer will be able to afford. when E3 comes in... i think 12 days peopel will be able to get a bigger chunck of the story.

Well, we will see:)

[QUOTE="Videodogg"]

No, not really. I got tired of a lot of things MS was doing with the 360 a long, long time ago.  The direction they are heading in with Xbox One is not where i want to go.  For me, it does not matter what games they show at E3. I dont want to pay for Kinect. I dont have cable television or like the NFL. Why should i pay for these things or features i will never use??  Im done with MS and I am moving on to other platforms for my gaming needs. 

firefox59

...oh, not to mention the fact that at the same exact price point, the PS4 will have better hardware. 

[QUOTE="firefox59"][QUOTE="Videodogg"]

No, not really. I got tired of a lot of things MS was doing with the 360 a long, long time ago.  The direction they are heading in with Xbox One is not where i want to go.  For me, it does not matter what games they show at E3. I dont want to pay for Kinect. I dont have cable television or like the NFL. Why should i pay for these things or features i will never use??  Im done with MS and I am moving on to other platforms for my gaming needs. 

Videodogg

...oh, not to mention the fact that at the same exact price point, the PS4 will have better hardware. 

Considering, you know, we really don't know all that much about the system, and Microsoft said before their reveal that e3 would be the place they'd show off most of their games, which obviously wasn't enough of a direct statement to keep people from understanding they wouldn't show that many at the reveal.

As far as used games go, I've been in total agreement that developers should be getting some sort of compensation for the fact that their million dollar efforts are being sold a week after release preowned at CrookStop 5$ cheaper, but I think everbody completely understands the other side of the argument; that said, we still know absolutely nothing about this policy.

So, does anyone else agree that everyone *might* be over reacting just a little bit too early??

IMAHAPYHIPPO

-it spies (forced kinect 2.0)

-it's going to be $100-$200 overpriced because kinect 2.0 comes with they system and there is no core gamers system without kinect 2.0 and no one wants it anyways

- it's 500gb hard drive is waaaaay too small - will fill up in a mattter of months

- it's 8 gigs of ram is a win BUT only 5 gigs of the ram will be used for gaming and the ram itself is low bandwidth ddr3 so it's a fail

-it won't play used games and families can't share games within the home = parents won't buy more than 1 game for 2 or 3 children = HUGE fail. = games won't sell on this system period.

-it has an online 24 hour check and everyone hates it

- it's media hub centric and not video game core gamers centric = fail

+ it's controller has a good design but doesn't have a touchpad or a mini thouchscreen. so it's a win and a fail at the same time.

- combine all the things listed above with "a lot of great games and exclusives at launch being shown at e3" = it won't matter because in the long run, maybe as soon as one year into the launch of the console, the publishers and dev studios won't see high game sales because no one is buying the console. so in tuen they won't continue to make games for it.

so nope... there's pretty much nothing that interesests me in xbox one.

[QUOTE="firefox59"][QUOTE="Videodogg"]

No, not really. I got tired of a lot of things MS was doing with the 360 a long, long time ago.  The direction they are heading in with Xbox One is not where i want to go.  For me, it does not matter what games they show at E3. I dont want to pay for Kinect. I dont have cable television or like the NFL. Why should i pay for these things or features i will never use??  Im done with MS and I am moving on to other platforms for my gaming needs. 

Videodogg

...oh, not to mention the fact that at the same exact price point, the PS4 will have better hardware. 

No. It deserves to be written off. Microsoft has already been testing my patience this gen with their poorly made consoles, unnecessary pay walls behind pay walls, relentless advertising, stupid avatars, and Microsoft points and they've done nothing but add to these problems with the Xbox One. I'm done with them now.

[QUOTE="Videodogg"]

[QUOTE="firefox59"] But if it's a similar price point to the PS4 then it shouldn't matter right?firefox59

...oh, not to mention the fact that at the same exact price point, the PS4 will have better hardware.

You can't complain about the price until we, you know, actually have a price. <<< goes for every feature we've only gotten a small bit of information on.

[QUOTE="firefox59"][QUOTE="Videodogg"] Dont you think the Kinect 2.0 and $400 million dollar contract with the NFL and the fancy tv snap interface added to the cost of the Xbox One? If i could buy a Xbox 1 without all that crap, I might buy One. But maybe not, because i hate paying for Live Gold too, and the used game fiasco and always online kind of butt hurts too. No, there are just too many things in the way of me enjoying a game on Xbox One.

...oh, not to mention the fact that at the same exact price point, the PS4 will have better hardware.

IMAHAPYHIPPO

You can't complain about the price until we, you know, actually have a price. <<< goes for every feature we've only gotten a small bit of information on.

 

I used to love the 360, effortless gaming, pop in a disk and go.

- then online pass

- then ads

- then kinect

I don't pay $50/year to be hassled, harassed and spied on by my own system.

Yes, I get it, there's nobody on the other end of the camera staring at me, but why is there a camera in the first place, I don't want to wave my arms around to game, I don't want the Xbox to say "oh it's you again, nice to see you."

A game console needs to be exactly that.

Not some overdesigned, underpowered piece of crap with 8000 bells and whistles.

This gen I think pretty much all console companies shot themselves in the foot.

1. Ninty with their "tablet controller"

2. Sony with their "ps4 facebook"

3. Xbox with "wave your hand around, ok now move your leg" no stfu, I'm not moving anything, get out of my house

LazySloth718

No, not really. I got tired of a lot of things MS was doing with the 360 a long, long time ago.  The direction they are heading in with Xbox One is not where i want to go.  For me, it does not matter what games they show at E3. I dont want to pay for Kinect. I dont have cable television or like the NFL. Why should i pay for these things or features i will never use??  Im done with MS and I am moving on to other platforms for my gaming needs. 

Videodogg

[QUOTE="Videodogg"]

No, not really. I got tired of a lot of things MS was doing with the 360 a long, long time ago.  The direction they are heading in with Xbox One is not where i want to go.  For me, it does not matter what games they show at E3. I dont want to pay for Kinect. I dont have cable television or like the NFL. Why should i pay for these things or features i will never use??  Im done with MS and I am moving on to other platforms for my gaming needs. 

KD-80

[QUOTE="KD-80"][QUOTE="Videodogg"]

No, not really. I got tired of a lot of things MS was doing with the 360 a long, long time ago.  The direction they are heading in with Xbox One is not where i want to go.  For me, it does not matter what games they show at E3. I dont want to pay for Kinect. I dont have cable television or like the NFL. Why should i pay for these things or features i will never use??  Im done with MS and I am moving on to other platforms for my gaming needs. 

Videodogg

I see a ton of over reacting. Did you complain when your phone came with a camera and doubled as a music player? This is what technology is. If you don't have the next big idea or take a risk, you could get left in the dust. MS is taking us down the road we are already headed. One day movie theaters will be obsolete and the new release will come right to your home, on your Xbox. There will be tons of opportunities that will come along and all will be taken granted for eventually just like our cell phone cameras. Technology is here to make our lives easier and the new X1 is something I want. I won't use every feature but it will be there if I want to.FoxbatAlpha

Considering, you know, we really don't know all that much about the system, and Microsoft said before their reveal that e3 would be the place they'd show off most of their games, which obviously wasn't enough of a direct statement to keep people from understanding they wouldn't show that many at the reveal.

As far as used games go, I've been in total agreement that developers should be getting some sort of compensation for the fact that their million dollar efforts are being sold a week after release preowned at CrookStop 5$ cheaper, but I think everbody completely understands the other side of the argument; that said, we still know absolutely nothing about this policy.

So, does anyone else agree that everyone *might* be over reacting just a little bit too early??

IMAHAPYHIPPO

I think people need to wait to see what the system can do. Everybody is complaining about the entertainment and social aspects of the console, which can be easily ignored, or the rumors of the used-game fee (Which is a RUMOR). Ive seen people even complaining that they cant take their games to their friends house and play. Yes, you can, use your account. Spartan_N7

[QUOTE="Spartan_N7"]I think people need to wait to see what the system can do. Everybody is complaining about the entertainment and social aspects of the console, which can be easily ignored, or the rumors of the used-game fee (Which is a RUMOR). Ive seen people even complaining that they cant take their games to their friends house and play. Yes, you can, use your account. Lulekani

[QUOTE="Lulekani"][QUOTE="Spartan_N7"]I think people need to wait to see what the system can do. Everybody is complaining about the entertainment and social aspects of the console, which can be easily ignored, or the rumors of the used-game fee (Which is a RUMOR). Ive seen people even complaining that they cant take their games to their friends house and play. Yes, you can, use your account. Spartan_N7

Idk we will haveto wait and see!

[QUOTE="Spartan_N7"][QUOTE="Lulekani"] Tried that with the 360, it doesn't even work properly, plus only the profile that owns the product can use it, unless you down load the license thingy.Lulekani

I know i wont be getting it because microsoft are not concentrating on the games there more interested in turning the console into a cable and kinect box and that doesn't interest me one bit.