Where should he go from here? (Raw *SPOILERS* on a massive scale)

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#1 The_Dude14
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Well, in one of the most shocking turns in a looonnnggg time, Michaels nailed Hogan with the "Superkick heard round the world" and made himself a heel in a big way. So, I want to know where you'd have HBK go from here.

  • Feuds with the returning Marty Jannetty into Summerslam.
  • After a failed attempt at the WWE Title by Triple H at Summerslam, he and Michaels put their differences aside and a new Klique is born, and possibly a new Evolution group.
  • HBK dethrones Cena at the Survivor Series.
  • He holds the title until Wrestlemania, where he drops it to Rob Van Dam, in the Showstoppa vs Whole f'n Show main event.

Yeah, that'll never happen, but I can still dream.

Tell me what you would do with the heel HBK...

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Well, in one of the most shocking turns in a looonnnggg time, Michaels nailed Hogan with the "Superkick heard round the world" and made himself a heel in a big way. So, I want to know where you'd have HBK go from here.

  • Feuds with the returning Marty Jannetty into Summerslam.
  • After a failed attempt at the WWE Title by Triple H at Summerslam, he and Michaels put their differences aside and a new Klique is born, and possibly a new Evolution group.
  • HBK dethrones Cena at the Survivor Series.
  • He holds the title until Wrestlemania, where he drops it to Rob Van Dam, in the Showstoppa vs Whole f'n Show main event.

Yeah, that'll never happen, but I can still dream.

Tell me what you would do with the heel HBK...

The_Dude14


i like the last one.
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Well, in one of the most shocking turns in a looonnnggg time, Michaels nailed Hogan with the "Superkick heard round the world" and made himself a heel in a big way. So, I want to know where you'd have HBK go from here.

  • Feuds with the returning Marty Jannetty into Summerslam.
  • After a failed attempt at the WWE Title by Triple H at Summerslam, he and Michaels put their differences aside and a new Klique is born, and possibly a new Evolution group.
  • HBK dethrones Cena at the Survivor Series.
  • He holds the title until Wrestlemania, where he drops it to Rob Van Dam, in the Showstoppa vs Whole f'n Show main event.

Yeah, that'll never happen, but I can still dream.

Tell me what you would do with the heel HBK...

The_Dude14

You just couldn't resist yourself...

BTW, I really don't care what happens as long as we see HBK vs. Kurt Angle 3 at Summerslam.

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#4 guitargangsters
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yeah a knew faction could work.

but RVD getting the title at next WM would just be too owange. wwe probably thought of that but didn't want to put RVD over.
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Right now looks like he's gonna be feuding with Hogan for a while, but in the long run I could see him joining evolution. And no, RVD will never get a shot like that. Sorry, I know you're a fan, hate to break your heart like this, but RVD will never be big enough to be a WM main event. Not the way WWE runs things.
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#6 keiblerfan69
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Right now looks like he's gonna be feuding with Hogan for a while, but in the long run I could see him joining evolution. And no, RVD will never get a shot like that. Sorry, I know you're a fan, hate to break your heart like this, but RVD will never be big enough to be a WM main event. Not the way WWE runs things.wwervin


see thats just your opinion but presonally think he is good enough to be in the WM mainevent
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if hbk were to become allies with trips.....does anyone want to see a new horsemen stable? flair, hbk, trips, angle?
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if hbk were to become allies with trips.....does anyone want to see a new horsemen stable? flair, hbk, trips, angle?sephy37


that would suck
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Right now looks like he's gonna be feuding with Hogan for a while, but in the long run I could see him joining evolution. And no, RVD will never get a shot like that. Sorry, I know you're a fan, hate to break your heart like this, but RVD will never be big enough to be a WM main event. Not the way WWE runs things.wwervin

Oh, I know that won't happen. But, RVD could be big enough to headline Wrestlemania, however, the Creative Geniuses at WWE have no idea how to use him. He has shown it in the past. When he first hit the WWE scene, he was biggest thing in the company, and this was a time when Rock, Austin, Undertaker, Jericho, and Angle were all running strong, and Batista, Bradshaw, and John Cena weren't even on the radar, and all of those guys have headlined Wrestlemania. WWE has progressively screwed thing up from there regarding RVD, but RVD has the potential to be big enough to headline Wrestlemania.

As for Hogan, they probably will feud, which probably wouldn't be a good thing.

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[QUOTE="sephy37"]if hbk were to become allies with trips.....does anyone want to see a new horsemen stable? flair, hbk, trips, angle?keiblerfan69


that would suck

well whoever made this thread suggested hbk and trips. and since trips is with flair. it was just an idea. i'd like to see angle feud with cena. take his belt. and get a olympic gold medal belt :lol:

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#11 keiblerfan69
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speaking of Triple H, hasnt it been nice that he hasnt been on RAW the last 2 weeks.
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[QUOTE="wwervin"]Right now looks like he's gonna be feuding with Hogan for a while, but in the long run I could see him joining evolution. And no, RVD will never get a shot like that. Sorry, I know you're a fan, hate to break your heart like this, but RVD will never be big enough to be a WM main event. Not the way WWE runs things.keiblerfan69


see thats just your opinion but presonally think he is good enough to be in the WM mainevent

It's not just my opinion. Like I said in the end "Not the way WWE runs things." That means he won't ever be in a WM main event let alone win one. WWE won't ever do that, you know how they work. It's not wether I think he's good enough or not. He has a lot of potential but not enough to be in the main event at WM.

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[QUOTE="keiblerfan69"][QUOTE="wwervin"]Right now looks like he's gonna be feuding with Hogan for a while, but in the long run I could see him joining evolution. And no, RVD will never get a shot like that. Sorry, I know you're a fan, hate to break your heart like this, but RVD will never be big enough to be a WM main event. Not the way WWE runs things.wwervin



see thats just your opinion but presonally think he is good enough to be in the WM mainevent

It's not just my opinion. Like I said in the end "Not the way WWE runs things." That means he won't ever be in a WM main event let alone win one. WWE won't ever do that, you know how they work. It's not wether I think he's good enough or not. He has a lot of potential but not enough to be in the main event at WM.



ok got ya. now i understand what u said.
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#14 The_Dude14
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[QUOTE="wwervin"]

[QUOTE="keiblerfan69"][QUOTE="wwervin"]Right now looks like he's gonna be feuding with Hogan for a while, but in the long run I could see him joining evolution. And no, RVD will never get a shot like that. Sorry, I know you're a fan, hate to break your heart like this, but RVD will never be big enough to be a WM main event. Not the way WWE runs things.keiblerfan69



see thats just your opinion but presonally think he is good enough to be in the WM mainevent

It's not just my opinion. Like I said in the end "Not the way WWE runs things." That means he won't ever be in a WM main event let alone win one. WWE won't ever do that, you know how they work. It's not wether I think he's good enough or not. He has a lot of potential but not enough to be in the main event at WM.



ok got ya. now i understand what u said.

Heh, I totally missed the mark on that one too. Yeah, WWE probably won't ever give RVD the title, and let him live with the moniker "Greatest Wrestler to never be Champ."

I thought you said "Not even the way WWE runs things." Implying that RVD was not good enough to hit that mark, even in the post-JBL era. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Its not something that breaks my heart anymore, its something I've sort of resigned myself to accepting. I can still dream though.

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Well, in one of the most shocking turns in a looonnnggg time, Michaels nailed Hogan with the "Superkick heard round the world" and made himself a heel in a big way. So, I want to know where you'd have HBK go from here.

  • Feuds with the returning Marty Jannetty into Summerslam.
  • After a failed attempt at the WWE Title by Triple H at Summerslam, he and Michaels put their differences aside and a new Klique is born, and possibly a new Evolution group.
  • HBK dethrones Cena at the Survivor Series.
  • He holds the title until Wrestlemania, where he drops it to Rob Van Dam, in the Showstoppa vs Whole f'n Show main event.

Yeah, that'll never happen, but I can still dream.

Tell me what you would do with the heel HBK...

The_Dude14
I think it is cool that HBK is a heel now.
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  • Michaels gets his @$$ kicked by Hogan at the next PPV
  • Michaels wins the 2006 royal rumble and goes to SD for the WHC
  • makes an emotional speech of why he did it to Hogan, then gets his butt kicked
  • Michaels gets run off of raw b/c the wwe raw superstars stick up for hogan and dont want HBK around any more
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#17 sephy37
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i bet hbk did it cuz he wants to be the only "icon."

how's this for a wrestlemania XXII main event

wwe champion shawn michaels (heel) vs. kurt angle (face) in an iron man match....or hell in a cell...hell any gimmick match except "hardcore" would work

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#18 guitargangsters
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i bet hbk did it cuz he wants to be the only "icon."

how's this for a wrestlemania XXII main event

wwe champion shawn michaels (heel) vs. kurt angle (face) in an iron man match....or hell in a cell...hell any gimmick match except "hardcore" would work

sephy37

that'd be the greatest match ever. It shouldn't be an ironman match except when shawn puts kurt in the ankle lock hebner doesn't ring the bell .
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#19 sephy37
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[QUOTE="sephy37"]

i bet hbk did it cuz he wants to be the only "icon."

how's this for a wrestlemania XXII main event

wwe champion shawn michaels (heel) vs. kurt angle (face) in an iron man match....or hell in a cell...hell any gimmick match except "hardcore" would work

guitargangsters


that'd be the greatest match ever. It shouldn't be an ironman match except when shawn puts kurt in the ankle lock hebner doesn't ring the bell .

screw hebnar man. have bret hart be the referee.

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#20 guitargangsters
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[QUOTE="guitargangsters"][QUOTE="sephy37"]

i bet hbk did it cuz he wants to be the only "icon."

how's this for a wrestlemania XXII main event

wwe champion shawn michaels (heel) vs. kurt angle (face) in an iron man match....or hell in a cell...hell any gimmick match except "hardcore" would work

sephy37


that'd be the greatest match ever. It shouldn't be an ironman match except when shawn puts kurt in the ankle lock hebner doesn't ring the bell .

screw hebnar man. have bret hart be the referee.



that'd put asses in seats. It'd be a huge twist.
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#21 hbk91
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HBK and HHH = UNSTOPPABLE!!!

I want them to reunite and have Flair in the stable too! I was disappointed that HBK didn't get drafted to SD! but after HBK nailed Hogan last night and turned heel...this is a new page for HBK. I hope he wins the WWE Title soon. He could make it as a huge heel now! :D

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#22 sephy37
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he should feud with shelton or cena and go for the title

but wow, this feud with hogan will probably drag on till summerslam :(. that really sucks. the last thing we need is more hogan appearances. let's all just hope if daughter is on it and she becomes carlito's manager. now that would be cool.

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#23 coolbmann
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Yeah, I thought Hogan was done. :lol: Now we will be seeing him fued with Michaels?
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^^^ I hope HBK goes over him. I am admired by Hogan but HBK should win to put him more over as a heel. I can't wait for his promos'!!! :twisted:
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^^^ I hope HBK goes over him. I am admired by Hogan but HBK should win to put him more over as a heel. I can't wait for his promos'!!! :twisted:hbk91

and if hogan does win, so what? he's not gonna be seen in the wwe until he has another show or whatever. hbk is an ACTIVE wrestler in the wwe. he should win. a loss to hogan will only lessen the fire of hbk's heelness.

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[QUOTE="hbk91"]^^^ I hope HBK goes over him. I am admired by Hogan but HBK should win to put him more over as a heel. I can't wait for his promos'!!! :twisted:sephy37

and if hogan does win, so what? he's not gonna be seen in the wwe until he has another show or whatever. hbk is an ACTIVE wrestler in the wwe. he should win. a loss to hogan will only lessen the fire of hbk's heelness.

Which isn't really good if they plan to make him appear more of a heel than just losing all face aftter that move...
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[QUOTE="sephy37"]

[QUOTE="hbk91"]^^^ I hope HBK goes over him. I am admired by Hogan but HBK should win to put him more over as a heel. I can't wait for his promos'!!! :twisted:hbk91

and if hogan does win, so what? he's not gonna be seen in the wwe until he has another show or whatever. hbk is an ACTIVE wrestler in the wwe. he should win. a loss to hogan will only lessen the fire of hbk's heelness.

Which isn't really good if they plan to make him appear more of a heel than just losing all face aftter that move...

i think later in the year, they should have hbk be top heel and not trips. and then whoever is wwe champ can lose to hbk and then the wm xxii main event can be angle (face) vs. hbk (heel champ) in an awesome gimmick match.

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[QUOTE="hbk91"][QUOTE="sephy37"]

[QUOTE="hbk91"]^^^ I hope HBK goes over him. I am admired by Hogan but HBK should win to put him more over as a heel. I can't wait for his promos'!!! :twisted:sephy37

and if hogan does win, so what? he's not gonna be seen in the wwe until he has another show or whatever. hbk is an ACTIVE wrestler in the wwe. he should win. a loss to hogan will only lessen the fire of hbk's heelness.

Which isn't really good if they plan to make him appear more of a heel than just losing all face aftter that move...

i think later in the year, they should have hbk be top heel and not trips. and then whoever is wwe champ can lose to hbk and then the wm xxii main event can be angle (face) vs. hbk (heel champ) in an awesome gimmick match.

I think that happening is actually quite high. Currently on RAW they HHH, Jericho, Angle, HBK as top heels. I reckon HHH and Angle should turn face. I for one would love to see that happening soon.

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[QUOTE="sephy37"][QUOTE="hbk91"][QUOTE="sephy37"]

[QUOTE="hbk91"]^^^ I hope HBK goes over him. I am admired by Hogan but HBK should win to put him more over as a heel. I can't wait for his promos'!!! :twisted:hbk91

and if hogan does win, so what? he's not gonna be seen in the wwe until he has another show or whatever. hbk is an ACTIVE wrestler in the wwe. he should win. a loss to hogan will only lessen the fire of hbk's heelness.

Which isn't really good if they plan to make him appear more of a heel than just losing all face aftter that move...

i think later in the year, they should have hbk be top heel and not trips. and then whoever is wwe champ can lose to hbk and then the wm xxii main event can be angle (face) vs. hbk (heel champ) in an awesome gimmick match.

I think that happening is actually quite high. Currently on RAW they HHH, Jericho, Angle, HBK as top heels. I reckon HHH and Angle should turn face. I for one would love to see that happening soon.

would trips as face really work?

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[QUOTE="hbk91"][QUOTE="sephy37"][QUOTE="hbk91"][QUOTE="sephy37"]

[QUOTE="hbk91"]^^^ I hope HBK goes over him. I am admired by Hogan but HBK should win to put him more over as a heel. I can't wait for his promos'!!! :twisted:sephy37

and if hogan does win, so what? he's not gonna be seen in the wwe until he has another show or whatever. hbk is an ACTIVE wrestler in the wwe. he should win. a loss to hogan will only lessen the fire of hbk's heelness.

Which isn't really good if they plan to make him appear more of a heel than just losing all face aftter that move...

i think later in the year, they should have hbk be top heel and not trips. and then whoever is wwe champ can lose to hbk and then the wm xxii main event can be angle (face) vs. hbk (heel champ) in an awesome gimmick match.

I think that happening is actually quite high. Currently on RAW they HHH, Jericho, Angle, HBK as top heels. I reckon HHH and Angle should turn face. I for one would love to see that happening soon.

would trips as face really work?

I don't see why not. He is getting pretty boring IMHO and it would be decent to see him with at least one face title run soon.
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[QUOTE="sephy37"][QUOTE="hbk91"][QUOTE="sephy37"][QUOTE="hbk91"][QUOTE="sephy37"]

[QUOTE="hbk91"]^^^ I hope HBK goes over him. I am admired by Hogan but HBK should win to put him more over as a heel. I can't wait for his promos'!!! :twisted:hbk91

and if hogan does win, so what? he's not gonna be seen in the wwe until he has another show or whatever. hbk is an ACTIVE wrestler in the wwe. he should win. a loss to hogan will only lessen the fire of hbk's heelness.

Which isn't really good if they plan to make him appear more of a heel than just losing all face aftter that move...

i think later in the year, they should have hbk be top heel and not trips. and then whoever is wwe champ can lose to hbk and then the wm xxii main event can be angle (face) vs. hbk (heel champ) in an awesome gimmick match.

I think that happening is actually quite high. Currently on RAW they HHH, Jericho, Angle, HBK as top heels. I reckon HHH and Angle should turn face. I for one would love to see that happening soon.

would trips as face really work?

I don't see why not. He is getting pretty boring IMHO and it would be decent to see him with at least one face title run soon.

i guess i'm just so sick of triple h that i can't see him anything other than a heel loser who runs the company because of his pull and bullcrap politics.

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#32 coolbmann
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Well, if HBK can turn heel, then HHH can turn face. I'd imagine though that it is easier to turn heel than to have been a heel for so long and turn face. But I can not, for the life of me, envision fans cheering Preperation H. I would really like to see how they plan on pulling this off.
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Triple H was face at times when he came back from surgery and he was good at it. So why not do it again right? And i do agree with Angle turning face and HBK as champ and another HBK vs Kurt Angle match. I think with Angle face and HBK heel it could be even a better match.
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#34 coolbmann
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No matter how much Angle tries to turn face, he will always get U SUCK chants during his music. I think if he turns face, they need to change his music. Otherwise those U SUCK chants will continue.
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No matter how much Angle tries to turn face, he will always get U SUCK chants during his music. I think if he turns face, they need to change his music. Otherwise those U SUCK chants will continue.coolbmann

yeah, but the fans like him. they do that cuz it's fun. just like how they all say "what?!" everytime someone talks.

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HHH and HBK for champs
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Right now looks like he's gonna be feuding with Hogan for a while, but in the long run I could see him joining evolution. And no, RVD will never get a shot like that. Sorry, I know you're a fan, hate to break your heart like this, but RVD will never be big enough to be a WM main event. Not the way WWE runs things.wwervin

Yeah because WWE knos RVD out skills every wrestler in WWE. And RVD VS Cena would be like tag, cena couldn't touch him.

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#38 Kotenks
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Any more Cena dissing and Thy shall be strucketh between the legeths
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#39 eugene05
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Any more Cena dissing and Thy shall be strucketh between the legethsKotenks
The Christian Coalition pwns the Chain Gang
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#40 wwervin
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[QUOTE="Kotenks"]Any more Cena dissing and Thy shall be strucketh between the legethseugene05
The Christian Coalition pwns the Chain Gang

You mean the "Peeps" :P

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#41 The_Dude14
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[QUOTE="eugene05"][QUOTE="Kotenks"]Any more Cena dissing and Thy shall be strucketh between the legethswwervin

The Christian Coalition pwns the Chain Gang

You mean the "Peeps" :P

Or Peepulation :D
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#42 Kotenks
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Chain Gang soldiers don't back down in soldiers I mean me. 8)
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#43 guard12
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-HBK is still the show stopper but now is a heel and he still has some fans on his side ( I heard HBK chants after he kicked Hogan) kinda like HHH or Angle.
-Hogan and HBK will have a rivalry
-HHH will return for Cena(and HHH will Kick his ass but wont win the title ) so HBK will be concerned with Hogan
-Hogan's last match at SummerSlam with HBK and Hogan will win
-Depressed with his lost at SummerSlam, HBK will be concerned with a title shot against whoever the champ is.(most likely Cena)
-HBK develops a huge rivalry with Cena that will lead into No Mercy and maybe to Survivor Series.
-Ultimatley HBK wins the title
-HHH and/or Angle want to destroy HBK and take the title from him
-Angle faces HBK at the Royal Rumble and loses again
-HHH wins the Royal Rumble be eliminating Batista
-HHH destroys HBK at Wrestlemania and becomes the 11-time champ!

Thats my prediction what will happen
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#44 sephy37
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-HBK is still the show stopper but now is a heel and he still has some fans on his side ( I heard HBK chants after he kicked Hogan) kinda like HHH or Angle.
-Hogan and HBK will have a rivalry
-HHH will return for Cena(and HHH will Kick his ass but wont win the title ) so HBK will be concerned with Hogan
-Hogan's last match at SummerSlam with HBK and Hogan will win
-Depressed with his lost at SummerSlam, HBK will be concerned with a title shot against whoever the champ is.(most likely Cena)
-HBK develops a huge rivalry with Cena that will lead into No Mercy and maybe to Survivor Series.
-Ultimatley HBK wins the title
-HHH and/or Angle want to destroy HBK and take the title from him
-Angle faces HBK at the Royal Rumble and loses again
-HHH wins the Royal Rumble be eliminating Batista
-HHH destroys HBK at Wrestlemania and becomes the 11-time champ!

Thats my prediction what will happen
guard12

....i'm still hoping angle as a face challanges hbk as a heel champ at wrestlemania...

oh and the elimiating batista thing...so ur saying batista is gonna lose the belt by then? maybe to chisitian! no? ok fine, jbl :(

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#45 Skaterfool99
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i dont think the story line is going to well now , anything would work