[QUOTE="The_Dude14"]Did he just blow out an electric lantern?TheGm86
Where the %#@& have you been?Â
Visiting Parts Unknown Has 3MB ever actually won a match?[QUOTE="The_Dude14"]Did he just blow out an electric lantern?TheGm86
Where the %#@& have you been?Â
Visiting Parts Unknown Has 3MB ever actually won a match?Los Matadors... That... might just be dumb enough these days to work.The_Dude14Also begs the question, does Tito (Chico) Santana have a son that's being punished with Dad's old gimmick.
[QUOTE="The_Dude14"]Los Matadors... That... might just be dumb enough these days to work.The_Dude14Also begs the question, does Tito (Chico) Santana have a son that's being punished with Dad's old gimmick.
Heard they are Primo & Epico.Â
Make of it what you will.
Also begs the question, does Tito (Chico) Santana have a son that's being punished with Dad's old gimmick.[QUOTE="The_Dude14"][QUOTE="The_Dude14"]Los Matadors... That... might just be dumb enough these days to work.TheGm86
Heard they are Primo & Epico.Â
Make of it what you will.
At least I won't have to hear their awful entrance music again. This has been an oddly paced show.This begs the ultimate question -- Just which storyline/segment felt stronger to you guys personally? Did you prefer where things were going with Paul Heyman and CM Punk, or perhaps you found Daniel Bryan vs The McMahons to be the strongest thing going tonight. I am going with Daniel Bryan vs The McMahons. I feel the only thing that may have been missing during that segment was a certain ferocity on Bryan's part, but he established a brilliant fighting spirit nonetheless.pokajabba
This begs the ultimate question -- Just which storyline/segment felt stronger to you guys personally? Did you prefer where things were going with Paul Heyman and CM Punk, or perhaps you found Daniel Bryan vs The McMahons to be the strongest thing going tonight. I am going with Daniel Bryan vs The McMahons. I feel the only thing that may have been missing during that segment was a certain ferocity on Bryan's part, but he established a brilliant fighting spirit nonetheless.pokajabbaDB vs the McMahons is a little stronger, IMO. It's fresher and there's so many places it can go with potential. With Punk-Heyman, while the delightfully personal nature of the feud and fire is there, without Lesnar it loses a lot of steam. Axel is just not a strong proxy when Lesnar isn't around.
Shame to see that Ziggler is still getting buried. Who'd he piss off?TruthTellers
If you think that was a burial you clearly don't know much about wrestling.
The Corporation's Champion, whom Triple H referred to as "the future of the WWE", is a man who's been in the company longer than John Cena has.
Makes sense.Â
The Corporation's Champion, whom Triple H referred to as "the future of the WWE", is a man who's been in the company longer than John Cena has.
Makes sense.Â
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If you actually think hard about this storyline there are a lot of plotholes. At least it's entertaining.Â
[QUOTE="TruthTellers"] Shame to see that Ziggler is still getting buried. Who'd he piss off?SAVE_US_KYJ
If you think that was a burial you clearly don't know much about wrestling.
Really? Going from a WHC reign to a beat down by the Shield in less than two months isn't a burial? You don't know sh*t about wrestling. Now get the f*ck outta here b*tch.[QUOTE="SAVE_US_KYJ"][QUOTE="TruthTellers"] Shame to see that Ziggler is still getting buried. Who'd he piss off?TruthTellers
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If you think that was a burial you clearly don't know much about wrestling.
Really? Going from a WHC reign to a beat down by the Shield in less than two months isn't a burial? You don't know sh*t about wrestling. Now get the f*ck outta here b*tch.He was beaten in a 3-on-1 handicap match. That sort of thing could have happened to Stone Cold at the height of his popularity if he pissed Vince off or something.Â
I haven't seen any indication that WWE has any confidence in Ziggler as anything more than a nice talent to have around.The_Dude14
To be perfectly honest that's kinda how I've felt about Ziggler lately. For a midcard guy he's pretty good but I don't have much interest in seeing him as one of the top guys.
Like...he's competent and he has no huge flaws. If he's in a match with another solid wrestler you know the match will at least be fine. He's decent enough on the mic but he also never delivers any truly memorable promos. I think his current place on the card is more or less where he should be most of the time.
I know Ziggler didn't get a huge reign or anything, but during the short amount of time he was champion he did nothing new, nor interesting. I dunno about you guys, but shouldn't some of the most interesting stuff happen just after you win a championship? That's usually when you would be at your freshest. Then when you begin to get stale, somebody new takes the lead and they spend time building towards the title switch from the challengers perspective.pokajabba
To be fair to Ziggler his reign was kinda f*cked right from the beginning since he got injured right after winning the belt. Maybe they had somthing interesting planned but threw everything out the window after that (especially since concussions are different from other injuries where you don't know just how soon the guy will be fully healthy, etc).Â
Like...he's competent and he has no huge flaws. If he's in a match with another solid wrestler you know the match will at least be fine. He's decent enough on the mic but he also never delivers any truly memorable promos.JML897This describes Orton perfectly. Yet, he's an eight time champion and has been with WWE a few years more than Ziggler.
[QUOTE="JML897"]Like...he's competent and he has no huge flaws. If he's in a match with another solid wrestler you know the match will at least be fine. He's decent enough on the mic but he also never delivers any truly memorable promos.TruthTellersThis describes Orton perfectly. Yet, he's an eight time champion and has been with WWE a few years more than Ziggler.
That's a pretty good point. Maybe that's why I dislike Orton so much, he was always at the top of the card despite the fact that he's always just been "okay". Talent-wise he was replaceable but WWE didn't seem to think so.
I do think what he's doing now is pretty interesting though.Â
Orton was a third gen wrestler born into the business. As is the case with EVERY FAMILY OWNED BUSINESS, it's not what you know, but who you know. Sorry, people getting preferential treatment over hard working people who just aren't as fortunate p*ss me right the f*ck off.TruthTellersWell, I hope Natalya gets some more preferential treatment because that woman can wrestle.
[QUOTE="TruthTellers"]Orton was a third gen wrestler born into the business. As is the case with EVERY FAMILY OWNED BUSINESS, it's not what you know, but who you know. Sorry, people getting preferential treatment over hard working people who just aren't as fortunate p*ss me right the f*ck off.StaticKornSlipXWell, I hope Natalya gets some more preferential treatment because that woman can wrestle. Are you kidding me? Natalya is one of the top Divas I want released because of how horribly she's been treated and booked. If I could ever speak to her in person, I'd tell her, "Hey baby. I know the money is good, but you've got a talent few others have and for you to sacrifice that talent and your dignity solely for a good paycheck is an insult to yourself. You're better than this and you know it. Money isn't everything and you can find other ways to make good money in the future, but once you lose your dignity, you'll never get it back. Now, can I see your t*ts please?"
[QUOTE="StaticKornSlipX"][QUOTE="TruthTellers"]Orton was a third gen wrestler born into the business. As is the case with EVERY FAMILY OWNED BUSINESS, it's not what you know, but who you know. Sorry, people getting preferential treatment over hard working people who just aren't as fortunate p*ss me right the f*ck off.TruthTellersWell, I hope Natalya gets some more preferential treatment because that woman can wrestle. Are you kidding me? Natalya is one of the top Divas I want released because of how horribly she's been treated and booked. If I could ever speak to her in person, I'd tell her, "Hey baby. I know the money is good, but you've got a talent few others have and for you to sacrifice that talent and your dignity solely for a good paycheck is an insult to yourself. You're better than this and you know it. Money isn't everything and you can find other ways to make good money in the future, but once you lose your dignity, you'll never get it back. Now, can I see your t*ts please?" She could threaten to leave because she does have a crucial role behind the scenes, training the other divas to wrestle. Maybe that would get her better storylines which means ending bizarre love triangle she has going on. Ultimately, I don't really see her getting released. She could back out of her contract but she's too much of professional to do that. I guess the one good thing that could come out of Total Divas is seeing her in more matches. I hope we continue seeing more of her and less of Khali and Hornswoggle....
For being virtual nobodys, and having no real face turn, PTP as faces were pretty damn over for their postion, all things considered.
Granted, it was a good crowd on Monday.Â
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