Deeb's GoWIII BoA PAIN+ run progress

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#1 MustafaEl-Deeb
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This is just a bit easier version than GoWIII BoE PAIN+. The harpies may be the only problem but in return you have s,t,t,t which would save a lot of times and causes a huge damage. However, I've just stopped after Hermes. I will start to tell my strategies from after Poseidon.

2 Gorgons Serpent and Sentries: Launch the Gorgon with Argo's revenge then OH. When the Sentries respawn use BR toward the Serpent.

Trials of Erebus(1st trial): Hit the arms from a long distance to disturb them(so that you won't get hit) then grab them

2nd Trial: OH and BR

3rd Trial: Gorgon OH, Harpies air OS, stay at a corner and s,t,t,t or you can let the Gorgon petrify the Hapries and the Minotaurs.

2 HC: Stay at the edge and the HC will kick so lauch at them s,t,t,T,. NOTE: If one of them came to you don't hit him a lot just 2 or 3 hits and run away(he has a very fast attack and maybe he will do the unblockable one)

Hades(S1P1): Attack and block

S1P2: PoP after any attack except for the one the he goes right and left 4 times(sometimes it's 3).

S2P1: That's the hardest. When he does the triple attack that looks like X, lauch s,t,t,t but mind the distance, time, and direction on order not to get hit. Also you may attack and block.

S2P2: PoP after every atack except for the three skulls.

S3P1: When he brings his chains out of the ground to attack you, go to him and do two or three combo hits.

The rest of the phases are dealed normally.

Gate of Olympia: PoP and grab the hounds.

NOTE: Go back from where you came from to have a better view.

2nd Centaur: Sweet spot and s,t,t,t

Chimera: PoP for the first phase. 2nd Phase: s,t,t and sometimes if he got knowcked back while attacking continue with s,t,t,s. Last Phase: Jump over the fire and 3 combo hits then block..

The Caverns: The only problems are the minotaurs. Launch them with Argo's revenge then s6 to ring them out

NOTE: Make sure you don't control(ride) the Cerberus unless the Sentries are dead.

Hermes: s,t,t,t from a long distance.

 

Till now 7 Death:

1 first cerberus(I was just trying something).

2 Harpies at Hades Palace

3 1st Chimera(Helios is the hole problem)

1 Hermes.

I was about to die at Hades.

 

 

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#2 MrStarkiller
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A copy for this place as well, I see.  Were you wanting an evaluation?
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#3 MustafaEl-Deeb
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No, this is the main one. I made it on the other board for Waffles also Hotel discussed things.
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>this is the main one

I see.

>Hotel

Not in the loop.

>No

So you're just free-balling this one, eh?

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#5 MustafaEl-Deeb
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>free-balling

Yes.

Topic:

I've made a new progress in this run but really lazy to right it up. 

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>lazy to write it up

How I feel about picking up where I left off in my current run and all the evaluations I still have on the backlog.  I'll do it tomorrow and force myself to get the rest needed to be set for that.  I've been actively denying myself in favor of having a go with some particularly sensitive lads in two recent s***storms.  I couldn't pass up a chance like that.  "It's my nature." - The Scorpion

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#7 MustafaEl-Deeb
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I hope that you aren't planning to do the same as with GoWIII NUR+, you did the hole run in one day which was the day before my exams began.
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#8 MrStarkiller
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>planning to do the same

Probably.  When I get to it, that's how I like doing it.  All at once.  Wulf is done.  You and Tid are next.  Adel later still.

>day before exams

Got anymore of those in the near future?

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#9 MustafaEl-Deeb
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>Exams

No, This is already the summer vacation.

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>summer vacation

Wasn't aware that was done much outside the US.  What's the span of time you get for that?

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#11 MustafaEl-Deeb
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You mean the span of time to get the vacation or to start the next school year?
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#12 MrStarkiller
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>span of vacation

>start of next year

Either or.  There isn't much distinction from my position as of this very moment.

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#13 MustafaEl-Deeb
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The span of vacation is 3 months and 2 weeks, at 17/6 there will be exactly one month passed. So that makes the span of the school year almost 8 months.
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>span of vacation is

Sweet Jesus.

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#15 MustafaEl-Deeb
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The span or the expression? ? ?
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#16 MrStarkiller
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>or the expression

Not sure what that would imply.  The span.  Length of time given.  I wasn't expecting something like the American system.

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#17 MustafaEl-Deeb
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Anyway. Something I hate it but I can't help not doing it, invlolving myself in couple runs at the same time. I've started recording GoWI PAIN, it will be the hole run not fights only. I'm at the Oracle's Temple, just after finishing the harpy puzzle. Meanwhile, this run is still incomplete(Labyrinth: box 4), also I've started GKPAIN+(BK), so I wanna finish recording first then I would do these pending runs.

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>couple runs at the same time

Bad habit.  Not entirely guiltless on that front myself though.  Not really with multiple GoW runs at once, but multiple games.  Not in the extreme though.

>GoW1 PAIN

>whole run

Oh?

>Oracle's Temple

On the way to saving the Oracle, then.

>this run is incomplete

I'm working my way there.  Zig is caught up.  Almost done with Tid.  You're up next.  I'm going to try to go to bed in another hour or so.  So long as I don't wake up four hours later for no good reason, I should have sufficient energy to carry out the task as planned.  It's just then a matter of YT not f***ing with me (crashing).

>GKPAIN+

>BK

Amusing.  You'll have quite a bit of fun along the way.  Quick wins and quick losses here and there.  Aside from bits without means around Power %.  Then you'll have some hilariously long chipping sequences.  Sounds like you should report all this to the Specialty Run thread.

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I didn't like the idea of battles only, it doesn't get views, also people may think that I've just put couple fights at PAIN+ but I didn't beat the it.

>Working my way

You really need to sleep. I'm talking about BoA PAIN+, it's the topic.

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#20 MrStarkiller
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>doesn't get views

Neither does doing videos long after a game releases, high level play, no commentary, less than amazing video/audio quality, etc.

>people may think

Casuals may thing a lot of things that don't make a whole lot of sense.  They'll see your collision damage being super high and think you're on Easy (showing a fundemantal lack of understanding of game mechanics).  Worry less about what trash thinks.  This is my advice.  Know nothing casuals are just there to be condescended to and offered aid if they can swallow their pride and find their inner man.

>need to sleep

"Yeah, maybe so." - Perfect Cell

>BoA PAIN+

So what are you doing in that run (presumed to be on hiatus)?

>it's the topic

Wouldn't be the first time we strayed.  Won't be the last.

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#21 MustafaEl-Deeb
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>Views

Yeah, casuals number is getting too high and vets are already quiting.

NOTE: Mentioning the name of the singer or the band makes it look awful, you can just put the lyrics between quatations and I will understand.

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>casuals getting more views

>vets not bothering

GoW:A was rubbish.  Simple as that.

>lyrics

What?

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#23 MustafaEl-Deeb
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>GoW:A is rubbish

Yeah, I noticed because Shin didn't do a run for it.

>lyrics

I can't believe that you don't know the meaning of this word, you're the one who almost taught me English. Anyway, it means the words of the song. 

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> lyrics

SK, didn't you know that each episode is a 22 minute long spoken word song with no music or rhythm?

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>because Shin didn't do a run for it

Among many other vets.  Those that did didn't bother with PAIN+ and even those like me are in no rush to work with it.  Glitchers quickly lost interest (findlestick was so put off he stopped playing vidya for awhile).

>meaning of the word

I don't know why it is brought up, rather.

>words of the song

Which is what the question comes down to.  I know not of what song is being referenced.  I merely quoted Perfect Cell.

>almost taught English

That could be anybody with how I do business.

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#26 MustafaEl-Deeb
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Where have I stopped in updating my progress? Oh, There is still a lot to do, I don't think I will ever update it.

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#27 MrStarkiller
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All good things come with time, eh?
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#28 MustafaEl-Deeb
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The problem is that I can't see any good thing here. Also I have some issues with my PC, so I can't record nor upload right now but at least the files are safe.
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>any good

Just for its own sake.  BoA PAIN+ is something I do to see how it would differ from the BoE (having a full string moveset, the old t1, no CG, stupid specials, alternate BASE damage values, etc.).  That was reason enough for me who put up with focused runs on each weapon (that many would say are too similar *though they're full of it aside from CoH and how that tends to play with the same sort of tactics*).

NOTE: Thinking back on it, the CoH remind me of the GoW:A Blades.  Like an early preview.  With regards to base anyway.  No access to a higher version of the heavy ender, a weird light ender and the T.  Granted, CoH has much higher base damage than the GoW:A Blades, doesn't have similar specials, etc.  The special property of lingering damage on Curse reminds me just a bit of the 'elements' for GoW:A too.

>some PC issues

The worst.

>no recording or uploading

That's a pity.

>files are safe

External Harddrive?

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>PC issues

Actually it's a laptop, my new adaptor got crashed but I've solved it by my old one(you just need to know that it's already solved), I can return to uploading right now, I wanna finish GoWII PAIN+ quickly. Since I didn't start uploading GoWI PAIN yet, that means I'm not invloved in anything(I will continue recording later). I've platted GoWII on my new account today and worked on some of my GKPAIN+ run. The Challenge of the Titans were very easy because I've played too much challenge runs and it's been a very long time since I last played the challenges. GoWIII: I have 63% due to PAIN+ runs and I didn't collect the horn, eyes, and feathers also I made a mistake at the Labyrinth so I didn't get aMAZED trophy. GoWI: I didn't start anything yet and I record it on my old account.

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#31 MrStarkiller
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>laptop

Still a PC.  Just not a tower, desktop, etc.  Unless it's a Mac...

>already solved

Good, good.

>didn't start uploading GoW1 PAIN yet

But you already have much of it? *reads ahead* Ah, I see.

>some GKPAIN+ work

So I've heard.

>CotT

If you're feeling adventurous, consider the "Challenge of the Fates".  Custom Challenges in the Arena.  I can link to the thread if you fancy a challenge.

>Plat concerns

Shouldn't take long.  GoW:A will deny you unless you pony up for a code.

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#32 MustafaEl-Deeb
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>Plat

Yeah, I don't have much hard runs to do so I've decided to focus a bit on the plats but since GoW:GoS haas been downloaded so I shouldn't focus too much on them right now(almost all of GoS trophies are hidden).

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#33 MrStarkiller
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>plats

That won't take long.

>hidden trophies

Progression based and joke trophies.

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#34 MustafaEl-Deeb
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GoS is already done on vanilla H.
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#35 MrStarkiller
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Ah, good.  On to vanilla VH and beyond.  Feel free to have a go with the Challenges (jokes).  For fun, do them after vanilla VH, won't you?  The Arena will require some purchases to fill out, but when you do, try out Gravedigger for a bit.  Then tell me about how it was stupid they didn't allow it in the main game.  Maybe rag on costumes a bit.  Then on to challenge runs.
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#36 MustafaEl-Deeb
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Ok, I will take vanilla VH. If I found it easy, I will go with PAIN+, if it was pretty hard I will go with NUR+(also depending on how much I needed healing chests)
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#37 MrStarkiller
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>if you find it easy

You will.

>will go with PAIN+

I don't advise jumping into it.  If you're impatient, go to NUR+ before PAIN+.  Not learning the options of all your tools would be a pity even if many won't apply for PAIN+.  If the goal is just that (beating the run itself) and not the lessons you get from the run, I suppose it won't matter to you.

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#38 MustafaEl-Deeb
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Ok, I decided to take your way.

>lessons learned

Anyway, I didn't use magic till now and didn't use it at vanilla H except at the harpies and the two or three big guys with the stones above their head(I don't know their names).

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>my way

Of course, the extreme of that would be vanilla, challenges, arena (custom arena challenges), NUR+, NGR+ NUR+, NBR+ NUR+, costume themed runs, focus runs (testing spells/weapons throughout), etc.  PAIN+ with AoS as the focus for the purpose of learning it or even a vanilla run with the AoS as the focus to see what you can do with the upgraded abilities (utterly destroy the game).

>their names

Geryon.

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#40 MustafaEl-Deeb
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Regarding the various runs and recordings I have to do, this run is just an easier version o BoE PAIN+(it's a joke) so I decided to cancel it.
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>easier

Aside from the ending and maybe bits where CG would be desirable (mainly things involving Harpy Queens such as the rotating spike trap box in the Labyrinth).

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>Harpy Queen

Simply change to BoE, what's the problem here?

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#43 MrStarkiller
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>change to BoE

>the problem

You're not allowed to.  You have to use an air OS to capture the Harpy Queen instead.  As with setting up Zeus for the air OS (you need to use BoA's t1 and T). 

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>not allowed to

It's weird to hear this while BoA isn't an official run.

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>weird to hear this

Even if not official, like the NGR+ NUR+, NBR+ NUR+, etc., it had defined rules to follow for it to be considered the same run noted from the outset. 

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#46 MustafaEl-Deeb
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I know other people who play BoA PAIN+ like you and Franchise and like two others not in the union. So why it isn't an official run.
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I'd assume that it's just not different enough to justify all the record keeping that goes along with it.
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But it's ok.
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>why isn't it official

Same reason Artemis PAIN+ isn't official.  We only recognize PAIN+ by the original variant.  We don't make distinctions for weapons in lesser runs (NUR+ for instance) either.  The only costume that gets favor is General Kratos.  The Chalice isn't recognized for official runs, but is honored otherwise.

NGR/NGR+ and NBR/NBR+ are like NRR, NCR, NER, etc. in that they are clearly runs, but we don't recongize them on their own nor would pairing them with NUR/NUR+ (or PAIN/PAIN+) change this.  Otherwise, I'd be inflating my run record quite a bit. 

Wulf: >not different enough

That's certainly a consideration, yes. 

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#50 MustafaEl-Deeb
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>Artemis PAIN+

It's PAIN.

>Chalice

I see no one cares for getting an asterisk for GoWIII PAIN+(the Scorpius battle is silly) so why doesn't the Chalice gets an asterisk.