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#1 Kman5507
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I noticed there is one for DarkSouls II, but none for dark souls I. Fear not fellow adventurers, Kman's here to make it all better. Here's a thread to discuss... you guessed it. My Little Pony! :D

No not really, I know Bugbag's too afraid of ponies to allow that. You see, ponies are the only predator on planet Bugbag that are able to eat any member of the Bugbag species. :|

So here we are friends, the home of all things Dark Souls. You can look at this as a gift from me to all you dark souls fans out there! Well, I actually made this thread for myself since I'm about to start the game right after I finish typing stuff in my unions, but you can still think of it that way if you want! :P

Now stop listening to my pointless rant and discuss! :evil: 

 

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#2 bugbag
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I just absolutely murdered Capra Demon.:x

I'm like a tank in my current playthrough. Nothing stands a match against me! NOTHING!:evil:

Good luck Kman, may the bug be with you.

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#3 Kman5507
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I don't know who that is. i'm about to start riht now :D
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#4 bugbag
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That opening cinematic is great. Do you have a laptop? Type as you play man!:x

:P:P:P

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#5 Kman5507
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this game... wow. I'm speechless

I liked ME 3's ending better :|

No No. I liked Gears of War better. 

Why would you do this to me Bugbag!? :cry: I can't believe the same guy who convinced me to play Mass Effect, the (second) best trilogy in gaming, reccomended this. The combat is just so derpy and it isn't really fun. I guess there might e a tiny bit of excitement if you kill a boss, but surely not enough to fuel the whole game. :x

I'll try again tommorow, but I'm really disappointed in this game so far. It better get better when you're deeper into the game. 

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#6 bugbag
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You might be missing some things. It has a steep learning curve, ask me any questions about stuff and I'll try to help.:P

Wait until you get to the third boss to judge the game. I remember Demon's Souls felt a bit strange when I first started it.:P

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It feels like a game that would have been released for the console before the original xbox if there was one. It's very lack luster.

I do have one funny story to tell though.

[spoiler] You know how after the bird steals you there's that guy who tells you suff? Some trolls left those message thingies on the floor telling me to hit him. If you do enough damage to that guy, he'll start attacking you and never stops. He also cmps around the bonfire, so you instantly die once you respawn. Did I mention he has a 1hit kill and you can't even put a dent in his health? Instead you just keep dying and have to restart.

The trolls got me :lol: [/spoiler]

I'm a knight now. he's a bit too slow for my liking...

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#8 bugbag
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:lol:

Be careful who you attack in the game. Some people are very hard to figure out.

if that's as far as you played then you probably won't be very into it. Get to boss number three and if you don't like it after you beat him, you probably shouldn't continue. The game gets quite tough there and you start figuring out all the moves and trying to stay alive.

Dark Souls is old school gaming with new world technology. You won't find any quick-time events, quick healing or anything like that. Just the player and the enemy, the way I like it in challenging games.:P

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#9 Kman5507
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They could've used current gen gameplay. AT 2 years old this feels more outdated than a game 20 years old.
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#10 bugbag
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There is nothing wrong with the gameplay. If it feels a bit stiff, pick a class like a wanderer or thief, if it feels a bit touchy, take a soldier or knight.

I've put 57 hours in the game, and once you find that class that fits, the game controls perfectly. The only complaint I had was issues with the lock-on camera.

I still don't know what issues you are having though. If you tell me I might be able to help.

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#11 Kman5507
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It feels too stiff.
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#12 bugbag
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The knight is very stiff.

Try out a thief and go for something like a spear or a normal sword. As you upgrade your stats you can become stronger and and carry heavy armour and still move quicker. Also, try using the roll to invade, it's the most useful trick in the game. You also are going to want a shield, they are extremely useful in Dark Souls.

I found the soldier and knight to be too stiff too for my liking, so I took the thief.

I hope I helped.:P

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#13 Kman5507
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I will try the thief.

Now tell me what to do at every level up in the game ever :P 

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#14 bugbag
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It changes depending on the person.:P

I need to put the game in to remember what I like to upgrade.:P

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#15 turtlethetaffer
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Game's really good. I look forward to future replays. I like how they managed to mix RPG with survival horror and take well known game mechanics and apply them in a unique way.

Plus the boss battles were very good, and the enemy designs were awesome. I think my fav enemeis are the Darkwraiths in New Londo. Guys are badass looking.

My fav weapon to sue is the Black Knight Halberd. Thing is awesome. 

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#16 bugbag
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Some of the best boss fights ever created, I agree.:P Did you just finish it? I was under the impression you had already played it.

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#17 Kman5507
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He said replays so I'd assume he had to have played it first before he could replay it.
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#18 bugbag
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Did he mean he was going to replay it, or just finished replaying it? I'm confused now.:P

Have you played anymore Kman?

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#19 Kman5507
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No. I've been too busy with school stuff. I'm happy we're getting out soon. 
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#20 bugbag
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Are you in University now?:o
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#21 Kman5507
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in another year :o

Right now I'm just getting a flood of work. Procrastinating isn't helping either :P

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#22 bugbag
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What are you planning to do? Are you going to study Bugbag's in their natural habitats?:o
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#23 Kman5507
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I don't even know yet :(
It's hard to just pick one thing to do for the rest of your life without even knowing what you are getting into.
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#24 bugbag
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I know what you mean. You have to make sure you pick something that you like, not something that pays well or is just a way to move on.
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#25 Kman5507
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I think something that pays well would be nice :|
I heard pharmacy is easy after college amd you earn a lot of money. I might look into that... maybe
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#26 bugbag
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I like something that pays well too, but being into your profession makes it so much better. I rather have a bad job that pays good, and then also have a job I love to do that doesn't pay much, or even at all, than to have a single job I hate that pays good.:P

Pharmacy? That actually sounds like a very interesting career. I like medical jobs because they pay so well.:|

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I don't want to get too medical to the point where you do all that nasty stuff :|
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#28 bugbag
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I don't know what you mean. Are you bothered by medical stuff or something else?:P
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#29 Kman5507
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Surgeons... You cut people open and mess with their inards. That's not my kind of thing. I won't even play a videogame if it has too much gore, so I'm definitely staying away from that in real life :x
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#30 bugbag
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And to think I was about to recommend Dead Space to you.:P

I'm not bothered by gore, but sometimes annoyed by it. So many horrors movies rely on it and end up being utter crap.

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#31 turtlethetaffer
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Some of the best boss fights ever created, I agree.:P Did you just finish it? I was under the impression you had already played it.

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I've beaten it once, I'm on my second playthrough. I believe I've mroe or less made it to Ornstein and Smough.

Game goes by much quicker when you can one shot most enemies :P It's only taken a few hours, whereas the first time through took me around 30 to get to that point. 

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#32 bugbag
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Agreed, I just absolutely murdered Gaping Dragon.:P
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#33 turtlethetaffer
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Agreed, I just absolutely murdered Gaping Dragon.:Pbugbag

Taurus Demon took me about ten seconds. Did the drop attack then hit him once and I was having demon steak for dinner.

But Gaping Draogn was also really easy the second time around. 

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#34 bugbag
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What type of weapon are you using?:lol:

Taurus Demon took me one try, but about three drop attacks.

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And to think I was about to recommend Dead Space to you.:P

I'm not bothered by gore, but sometimes annoyed by it. So many horrors movies rely on it and end up being utter crap.

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It's not like gore could ruin a good game just by being in it, but it definitely makes an already bad game worse. *ciugh*gears*cough*

That being said, I did see some footage of deadspace. It looked absolutely horrible.

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#36 bugbag
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[QUOTE="bugbag"]

And to think I was about to recommend Dead Space to you.:P

I'm not bothered by gore, but sometimes annoyed by it. So many horrors movies rely on it and end up being utter crap.

Kman5507

It's not like gore could ruin a good game just by being in it, but it definitely makes an already bad game worse. *ciugh*gears*cough*

That being said, I did see some footage of deadspace. It looked absolutely horrible.

Try watching a video from Dead Space 1, not Dead Space 3.

Dead Space 3 plays great, but watching videos of it makes it look like the gameplay is not doing so well.:P I remember watching the E3 videos and thinking they had ruined the gameplay. Some things were needless, but overall it's still solid.

Dead Space 1 looks like it plays great, which it does. You'd get a better idea of what's so good about it from Dead Space 1, because it doesn't have any of those stupid adjustments.:P

I wouldn't judge it by a video. (Not saying you did)

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#37 turtlethetaffer
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What type of weapon are you using?:lol:

Taurus Demon took me one try, but about three drop attacks.

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The Black Knight Halberd. Although my character was pretty much all melee/ heavy armor, so my strength was really high.  I can one shot most normal enemies at this point.

The first drop attack did something like 2500 points of damage or something... IDK, all I know is that he only had enough life left after wards to survive one normal hit. 

I also tanked the Painted World. Just ran through it, not really bothering to do anything more tha necessary. Got through the level in about fifteen minutes. 

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I'm thinking about actually looking into dark souls before actually playing it next time. I feel like it's not the kind of game I could pick up and enjoy- a.k.a. a good game
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#39 bugbag
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I'm thinking about actually looking into dark souls before actually playing it next time. I feel like it's not the kind of game I could pick up and enjoy- a.k.a. a good gameKman5507

You played it for a few minutes didn't you?:?

The game got amazing ratings. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's a bad game. It's not for everyone, but if you like a challenge, and a satisfying experience, Dark Souls is the best game to play.

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#40 Kman5507
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It's not the ai difficulty that makes it challenging :x

It's just annoying. You can only swing your sword once or twice before running out of stamina and getting beaten up by monsters with infinite stamina. To me it seems like the game was pulled off wrong. I like some games on hard difficulties, but DS doesn't feel like the fun kind of difficulty. I know I may be alone here, but that's just my opinion on this game.

However, I do plan on giving it another shot. It might be a little bit more fun with some research.

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#41 bugbag
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Actually, I agree with you on the stamina. I had trouble with that too at the beginning, that's why I upgraded my endurance. You only have to upgrade it a few times for it to become less of an annoyance though. I know at this point I can pack 10+ hits with my spear without getting low.

Pick a class with high endurance, it doesn't take long to upgrade it.;)

How far did you play? The enemies are pretty stupid until after boss 2. I actually didn't die until I was on my way to boss three, that's where things start getting difficult.

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#42 Kman5507
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um... funny you mentoned that. :P
I was on my way to playz me some dark souls when I saw that the state of decay demo was out. Now I'm downloading that instead. :|
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#43 bugbag
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Mentioned what?:|

How is State of Decay?:D

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#44 Kman5507
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That you mentioned me playing Dark Souls when I was about to, but was interupted by the sudden realization that the State of Decay demo was just made available.

I'm still downloading. This is taking a while :( 

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Keep me posted... Kman.... I... I need to know.:|
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It's pretty good. There is this one REALLY bad problem I noticed as I was signing off :P
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#47 bugbag
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It's pretty good. There is this one REALLY bad problem I noticed as I was signing off :PKman5507
What problem?:P

And it's good!? I wonder if any reviews will come out.:P

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#48 turtlethetaffer
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Dark Souls is designed in a way such that you need to utilize and master the mechanics and play very cautiously... Rushing into things will almost always result in failure.

If the stamina thing bothers you, start with a class like the Knight. From there you can level up based upon what oyu want the character to be.  Choosing a class really only determines how you start the game... what determines what character you make is what stats you choose to level up. 

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[QUOTE="Kman5507"]It's pretty good. There is this one REALLY bad problem I noticed as I was signing off :Pbugbag

What problem?:P

And it's good!? I wonder if any reviews will come out.:P

You can board up windows to stop zombies from jumping in through them. It doesn't stop your friends :| 

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#50 bugbag
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Okay, so play Dark Souls.:P