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#1 Xx_Kares_xX
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 http://www.screwattack.com/news/square-enix-puts-stop-one-final-fantasy-vii-fan%E2%80%99s-3d-printed-sprite-selling-operation

 

I hate the state the gaming industry is in, it's obvious that companies are hurting so much for money that they are  shutting down anyone else who's a threat to their merchandise, even their own fans. It's hard to remain a fan when square has been so dickish to every fan of theirs. It's even funnier to me that they continue to see things selling and move to shut it down, but they continue to ignore what the fans want even when they could earn money off of it themselves. Seriously square either get with the program yourself and stop being assholes or justs let the fans remember how good you used to be in their own ways.

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#2 valereth85
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SE has been doing this for years. How many Chrono Trigger remakes have they shut down?
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#3 Xx_Kares_xX
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I can count three definitive ones... these are freakin' figurines though x.x It's becoming harder and harder to say I'm a fan of this company. What really blows my mind is if they are going to put these restrictions on fans why don't they take advantage of the DEMAND for these types of items themselves? They keep bitching about how little money they are making but they continue to ignore the obvious ways of making said money.
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#4 valereth85
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They are not making much money because they **** themselves over big time with Final Fantasy XIV. They lost massive ammounts of money on that game. then they decided to fix it (can it be fixed?!). That took a lot longer and a lot more time and money than they anticipated. Any company making smart decisions would be swimming in Scrooge McDuck's money bin after a release as successful as Tomb Raider
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#5 Xx_Kares_xX
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No they lost money on tomb raider as well, they were expecting MUCH bigger profits...x.x they are pretty much failing on every level.. then again the entire industry is flailing around at the moment trying to survive.
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#6 valereth85
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No they lost money on tomb raider as well, they were expecting MUCH bigger profits...x.x they are pretty much failing on every level.. then again the entire industry is flailing around at the moment trying to survive.Xx_Kares_xX
I am just saying. That game sold extremely well. They should have made money on it. IT is their own fault.
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#7 Xx_Kares_xX
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Oh Hell Yeah it is x.x technically I think they did make money just not nearly as much as they expected... they are really screwing themselves over x.x
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#8 valereth85
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Oh Hell Yeah it is x.x technically I think they did make money just not nearly as much as they expected... they are really screwing themselves over x.xXx_Kares_xX
I think they expected it to cover a lot of their losses over Fijnal Fantasy XIV, and it didn't. They wanted it to sell like Call of Duty, but there is only one series of games that sells like CoD, and it is **** CoD. (which is sad. There are much better shooters out there than that)
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#9 Xx_Kares_xX
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Pretty much @.@... I can't argue with any of that lol.
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#10 valereth85
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You know what SHOULD HAVE sold like CoD? The 3 Resistance games...and Rage...and hte first FEAR...and Wolfenstein 2009. Those games were friggin awesome. They have a lot of the elements that made old FPS games great where CoD is gun porn and nothing more.
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#11 Xx_Kares_xX
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I haven't played most of those.. but I didn't really thing Rage was all that good.. just another generic 'post apacolyptic shooter' Fallout 3 did it much better and I'm not a fan of that either. The only games of those that I've been curious about are the resistance games... I only ahve the one on the PSP so far though @.@
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#12 valereth85
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I haven't played most of those.. but I didn't really thing Rage was all that good.. just another generic 'post apacolyptic shooter' Fallout 3 did it much better and I'm not a fan of that either. The only games of those that I've been curious about are the resistance games... I only ahve the one on the PSP so far though @.@Xx_Kares_xX
Fallout 3 is not a shooter .It is an RPG. Rage is pure action. It has the most beautiful graphics anbd animations of any third party title on the current gen consoles. Thye voicework is good. It has a fair amount of variety as far as gameplay is concerned. It has some of hte coolest secrets of any game ever. It has some cool weapoins. It's friggin awesome.

 

Resistance Retribution? That game was AWESOME 

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If only Hirinobu Sakaguchi hadn't left... I doubt any of this would have happened.

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#14 Xx_Kares_xX
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 Yeah it would.. he left BECAUSE these things were happening.

 

To Valerth: Yeah I heard Retribution was awesome which is why I picked it up when I found it for $6... the only problem is I wanted to play the first one before hand so I didn't spoil any of the story for myself ^^'

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#15 valereth85
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 Yeah it would.. he left BECAUSE these things were happening.

 

To Valerth: Yeah I heard Retribution was awesome which is why I picked it up when I found it for $6... the only problem is I wanted to play the first one before hand so I didn't spoil any of the story for myself ^^'

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The first two, at least, should not be that expensive. I think you can buy all 3 in a pack
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#16 Balmane
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If we are talking about shooters... Timesplitters.... That is all I will say.....
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#17 Xx_Kares_xX
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I only have the first timesplitters game, and I've played most of the second. They are pretty chaotic and fun.
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#18 Balmane
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Chaotic and fun is the way shooters should be. And the fact that its coming to PS4 ( hopefully Crytek dont stop it) makes me so excited! 

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Chaotic and fun is the way shooters should be. And the fact that its coming to PS4 ( hopefully Crytek dont stop it) makes me so excited! 

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**** yes. Give me Wolfenstein over Call of Duty. Medal of Honor and Battlefield any day
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#20 Xx_Kares_xX
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I'm still not HUGE on shooters and I haven't played very many. The original Half-Life is easily my favorite... but I tend to have fun with pretty much any shooter that has a coop campaign as well.
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#21 Balmane
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Not really a shooter but it is co-op. Portal 2 is also another great game with an FPS style.
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#22 Xx_Kares_xX
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Oh I've already played the crap out of Portal and Portal 2 lol Thanks for the suggestion though.. very good games
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#23 valereth85
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Half Life 2 is one of the best shooters ever made. Doom 1, 2 and 3,. Wolfenstein 3d, REturn to Castle Wolfenstein and Wolfenstein 2009. Quake 1, 2 and 3. RAGE. STALKER. Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon (I have not yet played the original., but I have heard a lot of good things).Metro 2033.
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#24 Xx_Kares_xX
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I haven't played most of those and disagree with a lot of the others ^^' but it takes a LOT for a shooter to impress me. It's pretty sad when I'd consider Halo better than most of the games you listed though (Exceptions being Doom and Quake... which really aren't all that good any more either but are remembered as good for what they did to the genre and gaming industry as a whole). We've already had the discussion on how I thought Half-Life 2 was highly over rated and inferior to it's predecessor in every way and we will never see eye to eye on that ^^'. I thought Rage was rather subpar... if you want to play a post apocolyptic shooter with RPG elements play Fallout 3 or hell Borderlands. Farcry 3 actually looks REALLY good, but I haven't played it either. Wolfenstein doesn't hold up anymore but I haven't played the reimagining... and I've never heard of Stalker. I've heard good things about Metro but most people say the first is better than the second. Either way it looks interesting.

 

That's my basic rundown, quite a bit more pessimistic than yours was, but it's just a difference in taste.

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I haven't played most of those and disagree with a lot of the others ^^' but it takes a LOT for a shooter to impress me. It's pretty sad when I'd consider Halo better than most of the games you listed though (Exceptions being Doom and Quake... which really aren't all that good any more either but are remembered as good for what they did to the genre and gaming industry as a whole). We've already had the discussion on how I thought Half-Life 2 was highly over rated and inferior to it's predecessor in every way and we will never see eye to eye on that ^^'. I thought Rage was rather subpar... if you want to play a post apocolyptic shooter with RPG elements play Fallout 3 or hell Borderlands. Farcry 3 actually looks REALLY good, but I haven't played it either. Wolfenstein doesn't hold up anymore but I haven't played the reimagining... and I've never heard of Stalker. I've heard good things about Metro but most people say the first is better than the second. Either way it looks interesting.

 

That's my basic rundown, quite a bit more pessimistic than yours was, but it's just a difference in taste.

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Doom and Quake are a couple of the best games ever made. Every game I listerd is, in fact, better than Halo

 

FALLOUT 3 IS NOT A SHOOTER! IT IS AN RPG! IT is an RPG with shooter elements. NOT the other way around. RAge is a shooter with RPG elementsm and a damned good one. It fdoes a great job [providing a huge and gorgeous wrorld with a variety of unique environemnts. Each group of enemies behaves differently than the others. There is a lot of depth and variety to the gameplay. That is awesome.

 

What? Most people say the second Metro is bettere than the first. 

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#26 Xx_Kares_xX
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To be honest it's hard for me to argue fallout as I hate games in that sort of open world Genre. Rage had the most boring barren desert wasteland of a world ever and the enemy AI was TERRIBLE. 

I have never played a metro game so I don't really know either way. The real problem here is that you are obviously a shooter fan while I am not. I have a much heavier background in RPGs and shooters are probably the genre I'm LEAST interested in because for most of the market is saturated with grey and brown 'modern warfare' games.  

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#27 Balmane
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You don't like open world games? I love exploration in those type of games. My fave will always be borderlands. Mindless fun. That's an FPS RPG that does it well.
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#28 Xx_Kares_xX
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No... I hate a lack of direction in games. It annoys the hell out of me and makes for a rather boring and completely unbalanced gaming experience from the gameplay, to the pacing of the story I have NEVER seen it done well.
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To be honest it's hard for me to argue fallout as I hate games in that sort of open world Genre. Rage had the most boring barren desert wasteland of a world ever and the enemy AI was TERRIBLE. 

I have never played a metro game so I don't really know either way. The real problem here is that you are obviously a shooter fan while I am not. I have a much heavier background in RPGs and shooters are probably the genre I'm LEAST interested in because for most of the market is saturated with grey and brown 'modern warfare' games.  

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You never actually played Rage...did you?

 

 I have a very heavy background in RPGs too dude. That is part of why Fallout appeals to be so much. That game is friggin brilliant

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No... I hate a lack of direction in games. It annoys the hell out of me and makes for a rather boring and completely unbalanced gaming experience from the gameplay, to the pacing of the story I have NEVER seen it done well.Xx_Kares_xX
Fallout has a sense of direction dude. You select your quest, and it tells you where to go

 

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#31 Xx_Kares_xX
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No!! that's not what I meant, I was not trying to discredit your RPG credentials...  ^^' I was just admitting to my LACK of credentials when it comes to most shooters.  I'm sorry it came off that way it was not my intention.

 

I didn't complete Rage no, I played a friend's copy and it didn't take long for me to  get bored.

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[QUOTE="Xx_Kares_xX"]No... I hate a lack of direction in games. It annoys the hell out of me and makes for a rather boring and completely unbalanced gaming experience from the gameplay, to the pacing of the story I have NEVER seen it done well.valereth85

Fallout has a sense of direction dude. You select your quest, and it tells you where to go

 

Same with Borderlands.... And both games have great stories that are paced well.... 

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From what I've played of each I found Borderlands a lot more entertaining than Fallout 3
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#34 valereth85
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No!! that's not what I meant, I was not trying to discredit your RPG credentials...  ^^' I was just admitting to my LACK of credentials when it comes to most shooters.  I'm sorry it came off that way it was not my intention.

 

I didn't complete Rage no, I played a friend's copy and it didn't take long for me to  get bored.

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I question whether you played it at all. Every enemy has their own AI. Every enemy type you fight acfts differently than every other enemy type, and that is awersome
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[QUOTE="valereth85"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Kares_xX"]No... I hate a lack of direction in games. It annoys the hell out of me and makes for a rather boring and completely unbalanced gaming experience from the gameplay, to the pacing of the story I have NEVER seen it done well.Balmane

Fallout has a sense of direction dude. You select your quest, and it tells you where to go

 

Same with Borderlands.... And both games have great stories that are paced well.... 

I do not know about Borderlands 2, but the first Borderlands barely even has a story where Fallout has tons of story both on the main path and off of it
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'Different' AI doesn't mean it's well programmed. I can make a game where every creature 'acts differently' that doesn't mean it is programmed well.

I didn't play borderlands for the story, it was for the coop shooting and looting. I only played fallout for about 2 hours before I said, "Oh.. it's Oblivion with guns' and I hated oblivion so there was no reason that I'd like Fallout @.@. (3 that is... I enjoy 1 and 2)

 

Edit: I went to look up some info on Rage, I was unaware it was made by Bethesda as well.. so the connection is obvious.. I really just don't like the games the company puts out. I was fairly certain I'd heard that Rage was developed by Id Software... ? oh well x.x

 

Edit again: Ahh... published by Bethesda but made by Id.. guess I wasn't as far off as I thought... the one exception to my comment above about not liking Bethesda.. is Dishonored... which is awesome.

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#37 Balmane
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[QUOTE="Balmane"][QUOTE="valereth85"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Kares_xX"]No... I hate a lack of direction in games. It annoys the hell out of me and makes for a rather boring and completely unbalanced gaming experience from the gameplay, to the pacing of the story I have NEVER seen it done well.valereth85

Fallout has a sense of direction dude. You select your quest, and it tells you where to go

 

Same with Borderlands.... And both games have great stories that are paced well.... 

I do not know about Borderlands 2, but the first Borderlands barely even has a story where Fallout has tons of story both on the main path and off of it

Borderlands 1 barely has any story but 2 hit back with one heck of a story and a last boss.... WOW!

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'Different' AI doesn't mean it's well programmed. I can make a game where every creature 'acts differently' that doesn't mean it is programmed well.

I didn't play borderlands for the story, it was for the coop shooting and looting. I only played fallout for about 2 hours before I said, "Oh.. it's Oblivion with guns' and I hated oblivion so there was no reason that I'd like Fallout @.@. (3 that is... I enjoy 1 and 2)

 

Edit: I went to look up some info on Rage, I was unaware it was made by Bethesda as well.. so the connection is obvious.. I really just don't like the games the company puts out. I was fairly certain I'd heard that Rage was developed by Id Software... ? oh well x.x

 

Edit again: Ahh... published by Bethesda but made by Id.. guess I wasn't as far off as I thought... the one exception to my comment above about not liking Bethesda.. is Dishonored... which is awesome.

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It is well programmed. Rage is the only game where I have seen the enemy AI jump and climb to avoid getting shot. No other game has the AI use the environment in such a smart way. 

 

You are wrong. Fallout is NOT Oblivion with guns. It is its own unique thing.

 

RAGE was not made by Bethesda. It was made by ID Software. 

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[QUOTE="valereth85"][QUOTE="Balmane"][QUOTE="valereth85"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Kares_xX"]No... I hate a lack of direction in games. It annoys the hell out of me and makes for a rather boring and completely unbalanced gaming experience from the gameplay, to the pacing of the story I have NEVER seen it done well.Balmane

Fallout has a sense of direction dude. You select your quest, and it tells you where to go

 

Same with Borderlands.... And both games have great stories that are paced well.... 

I do not know about Borderlands 2, but the first Borderlands barely even has a story where Fallout has tons of story both on the main path and off of it

Borderlands 1 barely has any story but 2 hit back with one heck of a story and a last boss.... WOW!

I do not own 2. I just have 1. Fallout has an amazing story. It always has had an amazing story.
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#40 Balmane
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[QUOTE="Balmane"][QUOTE="valereth85"][QUOTE="Balmane"][QUOTE="valereth85"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Kares_xX"]No... I hate a lack of direction in games. It annoys the hell out of me and makes for a rather boring and completely unbalanced gaming experience from the gameplay, to the pacing of the story I have NEVER seen it done well.valereth85

Fallout has a sense of direction dude. You select your quest, and it tells you where to go

 

Same with Borderlands.... And both games have great stories that are paced well.... 

I do not know about Borderlands 2, but the first Borderlands barely even has a story where Fallout has tons of story both on the main path and off of it

Borderlands 1 barely has any story but 2 hit back with one heck of a story and a last boss.... WOW!

I do not own 2. I just have 1. Fallout has an amazing story. It always has had an amazing story.

I know I have played it. I was just telling you about Borderlands 2 :P 

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Have you played 1 or 2?
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#42 Balmane
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I have played and finished both. Borderlands 2 is way better. Bigger, more weapons, has a great story and a great villain. The game even gives the first game a better story.
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#43 valereth85
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I seriously doubt all of that. Fallout 1 and 2 are masterworks
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#44 Xx_Kares_xX
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I think Balmane was talking about borderlands while you were talking about fallout, hence the confusion ^^'
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#45 valereth85
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Fallout 1 and 2 are both amazing games. Great stories, fantastic atmosphere. Fun gameplay with a lot of depth and strategy to it. A very in depth world a nd a good sense of humor
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#46 Balmane
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Oh. He didn't say Fallout so I assumed it was borderlands.... No I have not play Fallout 1 and 2. But I have played 3 which is brilliant of course. They might be masterpieces but you can't deny the work they put into borderlands 2 (They really tried making it a better game).
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#47 valereth85
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Oh. He didn't say Fallout so I assumed it was borderlands.... No I have not play Fallout 1 and 2. But I have played 3 which is brilliant of course. They might be masterpieces but you can't deny the work they put into borderlands 2 (They really tried making it a better game).Balmane
And you cannot deny the work they put into Fallout
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#48 Balmane
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I didn't deny it.... I said it's a brilliant game lol.

One of the best games this generation. 

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#49 valereth85
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1997 is not this generation o.0
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#50 Balmane
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Man I am talking about Fallout 3. Read what I am saying lol.