my vote the same Yuan Shao
way better than Liu Bei
had a better chance to unite the land than Liu Bei
smarter,had more and greater talent around him Yuan just went crazy in the end and if that didn't happen we would be talking about Yuan Shao spreading south rather than Cao Cao
Liu Bei for what it worth could lie real good thats why alot of people followed him to keep lies in order and steal as much as he done I give him created for that but he still loss in the end when Lu Xun owned his a$$ at Yi Ling and man thats maybe the third greatest ownage ever
1.Guan Du-Cao Cao winning
2.He Fei-Cao Cao winning
3.Yi Ling-Liu Bei getting the hell beat out of him
oh yea in my rant I forgot
4.Chang Ban-Cao Cao winning
so yea I pick Yuan Shao by the way
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