1. Obviously those scholars are sick in the head. Pedophilla has never been allowed in Islam. I will give you proof upon request. I don't dismiss any Hadith that "doesn't seem right". I look into the actual meaning an context in the Hadith, not completely disregard it. Muslims should never lie and twist the truth.
2.There is a hadith where Muslim (narrarator) has reported that Muhammad said:
"Come listen to me! Come listen to me! God has now made a way out for them"
It's in a Sahih Muslim Hadith book which I have. It's not on the internet AFAIK.
And in 4:15...
...until God appoints for them a way.
What am I twisting here?
You are not clueless, I'll take that back. You simply pass me off as a liar, as implied in your posts.
ghoklebutter
1. There is no "proof" here. The balance of probablities suggest that muhammad married a 9 year old. There are detailed hadiths of how ayesha used to play with "dolls" with her friends after she started living with muhammad. An old man may get the age wrong a few years but he cant get the whole incident of the dolls playing wrong.And I am now going to bring an argument you cannot dismiss. MOST scholars accept the traditional account of muhammad having sex with a 9 year old, there is a reason why marrying a 9 year old is "legal" in saudi arabia. For centuries after the death of muhammad, it was readily accepted that ayesha was 9 years old, no issues. Then the changing moral zeitgist began to have a serious problem with it and there was also then the start of the apologetic explanations.
I know you are going to throw me a huge article which tries to "prove" that ayesha wasnt a child but please dont bother. It is going to find one contradictory evidence to her being a child and declare it supersiding the other traditions. There is contradictory evidence for many things about muhammad and islam, we may just as well throw the whole history out and perhaps wait for God to send a new prophet lol.
I will say once again, MOST scholars accept that ayesha was 9 years old so there's no way YOU can spin this one.
2. Lets not bring hadith in cuz quran will always have automatic supercidance over them.
And those of your women who commit illegal sexual intercourse, take the evidence of four witnesses from amongst you against them; and if they testify, confine them to houses until death comes to them or Allah ordains for them some way.
What does the last sentence mean? As far as I can understand it clearly means that you SHOULD confine them to houses. That is the one part that has to be done, the 2 alternatives here are that they die or God saves them through some way....
And btw why the hell is this verse included in the quran if it is no more applicable? The quran is a universal book and there is nothing redundant in it.
And why was there EVER a death penalty for adultery? Why couldnt God just bring the other punishment before? God was confused I guess lol.:shock:
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