[QUOTE="gameguy6700"] What's up with the BBC's obsession as of late in running these exposes on the British muslim community? I know that Dispatches alone has had at least three shows on such topics in the past two years (one on how Muslims are secretly trying to take over parliament, one on muslim faith schools, and one on how muslims are threatening ex-muslims who converted to Christianity), and that's just what I could find with a quick youtube search.
Then again, this anti-Islamic sentiment seems to be really common in all of Western Europe, far more so than even in America which is really saying something considering that it's America that's been taking the brunt of most terrorist attacks (attempted and successful) for the past few decades.
RationalAtheist
So rather than debate the accusations, you prefer to shout "obsession" and complain about being picked on? Why can't the Muslim community integrate more with the British community? I think the interest in Islamic beliefs is healthy and it is correct to question some of the dodgier beliefs in that faith openly.
I think these are valid opinions and would find them hard to defend if I were Muslim, since they are clearly stated many times in the Quran. One thing about this particular BBC documentary was the secrecy over the text books and denial from their source about their distribution.
I also think you are wrong about the "most" terrorist attacks. Perhaps you should do some research on the terrorism in the UK and Ireland - that reached a peak of attacks in the 1970s and 1980s. That one had some religious motivation too.
Why can't everyone be taught the same things in school - and leave religious piety out of it? That way, individual families can decide on how to indoctrinate their own children, while school would give all children a broad-spectrum delivery of all the faiths and beliefs of the world - past and present.
I should have been more clear when I said "terrorist attacks". I mean terror attacks by Islamic fundamentalist groups like Al Qaeda, not terrorist attacks in general which would include things like The Troubles. Also, I'm not saying I condone what's being stated in this program. I'm not a fan of faith schools (especially Britain's particular form of state-funded faith schools) nor am I a fan of religious indoctrination, but I think this program is a symptom of a larger problem.
There's a difference between making accusations with an intent to bring up debate and making accusations in an attempt to demonize a group of people. I'm not saying that this program in particular is the issue. Rather, it's the general sentiment held in Europe that Muslim immigrants are in their countries in an attempt to subvert Western civillization, implement Sharia law, and force everyone to convert to Islam. While this documentary isn't so bad, I've seen others where the accusations made could have been made about any group of people and yet the documentaries in question acted as if these were things that only Muslims did.
For example, there was one documentary (from Dispatches I believe) that investigated how Muslims were trying to get more Muslims into parliament and influence other politicians. While I have no doubt that it was true, that's because EVERY GROUP (especially religious groups) does that. That's how politics works. In another documentary, this time from Germany, it talked about how Muslim students are disrupting classes and bringing down Aryan students with their lazy work ethic and hostility towards authority.
What's next, a Western European country with a far right wing political party whose main platform is the restoration of their country to it's former Imperial glory by means of getting rid of all non-natives and "undesirables" through force, with a particular emphasis on a single religious ethnic minority?
Oh wait...nevermind.
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