But I have a problem with this argument. first off, as we know, good and evil are subjective. Unless you belong to a religion. Secondly, life is a test according to the Abrahamic. I myself think that this is a poor argument against the problem of evil. But it still holds signifigance. Sure, when you see an amputee trying to walk, or an old man suffering from cancer, it really makes one doubt the existance of a loving God. However, this argument is pointless. If said God existed, you would have no reason to complain, since he's omnipotent and can do whatever he damn well pleases.
ghoklebutter
First off all there is nothing subjective about "suffering".Well as you know that there is no evidence for the abrahimic god so when we see people with such horrible suffering it makes it very improbable that the abrahimic god actually exists. We are trying to establish whether god actually exists or not and looking at the random suffering it seems very unlikely that there is an omnipotent god with such a merciless and unfair character.
Secondly even if the existence of this god gets established even then you cant trust this monstorous god. If he treats us so miserably in this world, what is the guarantee that he is going to let us have eternal bliss after death?
The early humans regularly got eaten alive by merciless animals, would you ever leave your child alone in the jungle to be eaten by lions? Because that's exactly what god did with early humans...
Think about it again, would you spill burning liquid on the face of your new born child so he will have to deal with ugliness for the rest of his life? You know it's just a test you are giving him...That's exactly what god does whenever an ugly person is born. Upon knowing what you did with him as a child would your son ever trust you again his whole life?
It's like an ant trying to convince a human to stay completely still. It's impossible! ghoklebutter
That's not a good analogy as I cant do anything about the fact that ants will be killed when I walk. To try to do something about it is completely impractical as I am not omnipotent and cant change the way the natural world goes, god on the other hand....Instead of complaining about the concept of God, do what you are capable of. It's a shame that such unfortunate people exist, but why not just help them while you can? These people could have been created by God so that other, more able people would come to their aid. This is why Abrahamic religions say that life is a test.ghoklebutter
lol wut? If I complain about the concept of god does that in any way prevent me from helping others and doing what I am capable of?:?But why does god never interfere when suffering goes way out of hand? He tested someone, they failed so why let them continue to do bad things? There have been cases in my country where a woman got kidnapped, got locked up in a basement and for months they continued to be raped by several different people.Â
And why is there one life only? Everyone should have to go through all kinds of tests if you can really call it fair like a rich person should have to go through a life full of poverty before he should be deemed fit for paradise. The poor and ugly should also be given a life of luck.
God made people suffer horribly but on top of that he leaves them totally confused whether he actually exists or not and whether there will be something better after death or not. That for me is as creul as it gets. I'l finish with a quote,
The total amount of suffering per year in the natural world is beyond all decent contemplation. During the minute that it takes me to compose this sentence, thousands of animals are being eaten alive, many others are running for their lives, whimpering with fear, others are slowly being devoured from within by rasping parasites, thousands of all kinds are dying of starvation, thirst, and disease. It must be so. If there ever is a time of plenty, this very fact will automatically lead to an increase in the population until the natural state of starvation and misery is restored. In a universe of electrons and selfish genes, blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference.
-- Richard Dawkins
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