Zephyr vs ps3 20gb, your thoughts on this?

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#1 gamenux
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People should not be complaining about the price of the ps3 20GB or 60GB when you total the cost plus add-on plus live fee. A 20gb ps3 sounds great in price in comparison.

 

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People should not be complaining about the price of the ps3 20GB or 60GB when you total the cost plus add-on plus live fee. A 20gb ps3 sounds great in price in comparison.

 

gamenux
Well yea it is. You a damn next gen Blu-Ray player. Not even a fair comparison.
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#3 reaperstoll
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People should not be complaining about the price of the ps3 20GB or 60GB when you total the cost plus add-on plus live fee. A 20gb ps3 sounds great in price in comparison.

gamenux
HD-DVD addon isn't needed for gaming so that price shouldn't be factored in, also lemmings will say they dont need live gold
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#4 Cubs360
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I'm taking the Zephyr, its for the hardcore!
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#5 skyvader
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This topic should be more about the $399 premium 360 vs the $479 elite. Which one to get?
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#6 Pixelgen
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Its a rip...
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#7 Dualshockin
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[QUOTE="gamenux"]

People should not be complaining about the price of the ps3 20GB or 60GB when you total the cost plus add-on plus live fee. A 20gb ps3 sounds great in price in comparison.

LiquidMetal14
Well yea it is. You a damn next gen Blu-Ray player. Not even a fair comparison.

And considering the Core 360's will be discontinued,Microsoft's commitment to their consumers is questionable yet again. Btw dude,your sig is simply :lol:
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Many retailers have the 20 gig as discontinued. It's hardly an option for anyone.

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[QUOTE="gamenux"]

People should not be complaining about the price of the ps3 20GB or 60GB when you total the cost plus add-on plus live fee. A 20gb ps3 sounds great in price in comparison.

reaperstoll
HD-DVD addon isn't needed for gaming so that price shouldn't be factored in, also lemmings will say they dont need live gold

I'm a lemming and I say there is no point in owning an Xbox 360 without Gold.
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[QUOTE="reaperstoll"][QUOTE="gamenux"]

People should not be complaining about the price of the ps3 20GB or 60GB when you total the cost plus add-on plus live fee. A 20gb ps3 sounds great in price in comparison.

Bansheesdie
HD-DVD addon isn't needed for gaming so that price shouldn't be factored in, also lemmings will say they dont need live gold

I'm a lemming and I say there is no point in owning an Xbox 360 without Gold.

I don't see the point in it, but based off past history of posts like this every time someone factors in the price of Gold they all cry foul saying it is unnecessary
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#11 ironwarrior2
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360 elite is a ripoff.  It doesn't even have a current gen disc drive in it.  Last gen tech FTL!
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#12 luigionlsd
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I have the 360 "premium" and the 20gb PS3. The PS3's really only gotten BD movie mileage, but I expected that much. Casino Royale justified the purchase alone.
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#13 shungokustasu
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I think the Zephry shows that options are for kids. 360 was a big mistake for having to many optional add-ons. Zephry is nothing more but a PS3 without a HD player made by Microsoft.
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X360 elite is self-ownage

 

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#15 Vicious_T
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I have the 360 "premium" and the 20gb PS3. The PS3's really only gotten BD movie mileage, but I expected that much. Casino Royale justified the purchase alone.luigionlsd

Its not hard to add a 200gb for the PS3 for less than 100 bucks.  

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#16 joeamis
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My thoughts on this are I could buy the 20gb PS3 and get a 250gb HDD for less than $100... My thoughts are that MS will be making a nice hefty profit on the Elite 360 hardware. As of November 2006, the premium 360 was only costing MS $323 to produce. See link for proof on the milking: http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/display/20061120132150.html
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#17 Dualshockin
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X360 elite is self-ownage

SuperKnightX
Quite frankly,you are 100% correct.
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#18 Dualshockin
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I think the Zephry shows that options are for kids. 360 was a big mistake for having to many optional add-ons. Zephry is nothing more but a PS3 without a HD player made by Microsoft.shungokustasu
Plus it lacks inbuilt wi-fi and a card reader. So much for being "next-gen" lol.
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#19 Redfingers
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[QUOTE="gamenux"]

People should not be complaining about the price of the ps3 20GB or 60GB when you total the cost plus add-on plus live fee. A 20gb ps3 sounds great in price in comparison.

reaperstoll
HD-DVD addon isn't needed for gaming so that price shouldn't be factored in, also lemmings will say they dont need live gold

And they're wrong.
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#20 reaperstoll
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[QUOTE="reaperstoll"][QUOTE="gamenux"]

People should not be complaining about the price of the ps3 20GB or 60GB when you total the cost plus add-on plus live fee. A 20gb ps3 sounds great in price in comparison.

Redfingers
HD-DVD addon isn't needed for gaming so that price shouldn't be factored in, also lemmings will say they dont need live gold

And they're wrong.

As i said higher up in the thread I don't see the point of a 360 without Live Gold, but most times someone tries to do a price comparison between 360 and ps3 they add in the cost of Gold and the lemmings try to shoot them down saying only silver is necessary and acting like the price of gold is somehow reduced by being only 5 dollars a month.
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Blu-ray is not the future of movies digital distribution is that is why microsoft is adding the bigger HDD and getting more D/L content (movies, map packs, music, IPTV, etc.). As for value I like 360, but to me the Zephyr is not worth the money and neither is the core PS3. Zephyr should of been the premium 360 in the first place. The price should be $400 for Zephyr and $300 for Premium.

 As for the $50 for LIVe a year.  That is a moot argument since it will cost you more than that for the additional cost in electricity the PS3 will use.

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#22 Bgrngod
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[QUOTE="LiquidMetal14"][QUOTE="gamenux"]

People should not be complaining about the price of the ps3 20GB or 60GB when you total the cost plus add-on plus live fee. A 20gb ps3 sounds great in price in comparison.

Dualshockin
Well yea it is. You a damn next gen Blu-Ray player. Not even a fair comparison.

And considering the Core 360's will be discontinued,Microsoft's commitment to their consumers is questionable yet again. Btw dude,your sig is simply :lol:

The Core's existince is what made MS's commitment questionable. It's termination fixes things.
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#23 Bgrngod
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People should not be complaining about the price of the ps3 20GB or 60GB when you total the cost plus add-on plus live fee. A 20gb ps3 sounds great in price in comparison.

 

gamenux
The way I see it MS is adding an HD format to the 360 for only $80 more. Can the PS3 do IPTV? Nope. I have no interest in IPTV so this new model means absolutely jack squat to me. MS is clearly releasing it for the single purpose of adding IPTV since it has zero impact on gaming. I hope they make this clear with the marketting strategy so it doesn't confuse consumers that might not know any better and end up buying one with no intent of getting IPTV. They need to make sure that the Premium is just as much in the light as the Zephyr is. These two units side by side would seem like more of a "choice" then the Core and Premium did.
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#24 gamenux
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[QUOTE="gamenux"]

People should not be complaining about the price of the ps3 20GB or 60GB when you total the cost plus add-on plus live fee. A 20gb ps3 sounds great in price in comparison.

reaperstoll
HD-DVD addon isn't needed for gaming so that price shouldn't be factored in, also lemmings will say they dont need live gold

Thats what they said too when the average computer hard drive was 6-8gb, then they said the same thing when it average was 60-100gb hd, then 100-200gb hd.... Look at Memory requirments. Look at memory on graphic card. History will repeat itself when it comes to storage space.
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#25 gamenux
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Blu-ray is not the future of movies digital distribution is that is why microsoft is adding the bigger HDD and getting more D/L content (movies, map packs, music, IPTV, etc.). As for value I like 360, but to me the Zephyr is not worth the money and neither is the core PS3. Zephyr should of been the premium 360 in the first place. The price should be $400 for Zephyr and $300 for Premium.

As for the $50 for LIVe a year. That is a moot argument since it will cost you more than that for the additional cost in electricity the PS3 will use.

rexoverbey
How many years did you own your ps2, xbox, ds,.... If you like it, you will probably own it for several years so you are paying "around" $200 over 4-5 years for online.
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#26 Goku004
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I'm taking the Zephyr, its for the hardcore!Cubs360
Thats one of the problems with this new 360...all of the hardcores than bought the premium 360, sucks for them I guess.
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#27 Bgrngod
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[QUOTE="Cubs360"]I'm taking the Zephyr, its for the hardcore!Goku004
Thats one of the problems with this new 360...all of the hardcores than bought the premium 360, sucks for them I guess.

Only if they want IPTV. If not, then no problems.
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[QUOTE="Goku004"][QUOTE="Cubs360"]I'm taking the Zephyr, its for the hardcore!Bgrngod
Thats one of the problems with this new 360...all of the hardcores than bought the premium 360, sucks for them I guess.

Only if they want IPTV. If not, then no problems.

Do you or anyone else have news about those rumors about MS working with other companies to put 360s free with ordering IPTV service? That would be awesome. Any updates on that stuff?
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#29 CB4McGusto
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360 Premium - $400

Warranty(which I had to use twice) - $40

Quick Play and charge kit - $30

Wireless Headset(bought on ebay) - $40

xbl gold(just for 1 year of service) - $50

Total = $560

I still don't have wi-fi, a web browser, an HD movie format, and am stuck with 20GB of hard drive space that can't be replaced!  Not to mention I will (GeOW & Halo 3 without online = :|) have to pay an additional $50 this July for another year of xbl.

As an early adopter of the 360 I have been officially owned!!! :cry:

Damn you Haloooo!!!!!!

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#30 deactivated-57d773aa56272
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I think that Blu-Ray really seperates the two.  You could do a really fantastic movie game etc if you really maxmize the use of the PS3 not to take anything away from the 360.
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#31 munu9
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[QUOTE="gamenux"]

People should not be complaining about the price of the ps3 20GB or 60GB when you total the cost plus add-on plus live fee. A 20gb ps3 sounds great in price in comparison.

 

reaperstoll

HD-DVD addon isn't needed for gaming so that price shouldn't be factored in, also lemmings will say they dont need live gold

Well, the zephyer is suppose to be media centric, otherwise it's almost completely pointless. So to compare the media funcionallity, the price of the xbox360's HD-DVD drive should be added in... Making the elite $680. But to be fair, I'll add the price of a 60GB 2.5inch HDD to the ps3's price which would come out to ~$650 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152506)  

The ps3 is stil less expensive... 

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#32 MaTT2011
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People should not be complaining about the price of the ps3 20GB or 60GB when you total the cost plus add-on plus live fee. A 20gb ps3 sounds great in price in comparison.

gamenux
well the thing is that you are not forced by MS to buy a system that costs $500 no matter what version of their system you choose. In the end what matters most is that you can play the games that are available for that system for as cheap as possible and for 300 bucks you can play a huge library of games whereas with Sony you pay 500, at least, to play a library of games whose superior versions are available on a much cheaper system and whose exclusives arent good enough, or new enough, to justify spending 500 bucks. The new xbox is for tech freaks who think they "need" HDMI and a bigger HDD to enjoy games; but in reality 300 bucks will do the same thing. MS is trying to make money here and making availble various versions of the same thing is going to bring in profits that recoup the losses of the past year.