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#1 avatar_genius
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I feel Zelda is dead.

I loved Ocarina of Time. I played it on the N64 about 9 years ago and beat it and it left one of those impacts that's so hard to leave.

I tried Majora's Mask, it was OK, but the gameplay really turned me off.

I bought a GBA just to play A Link to the Past, since I had never played that, and I beat that and thought it was great and my friends had bought GBAs with the same Zelda and link cables so we could play multiplayer, and we did, it was fun and cool.

I played Wind Waker on the gamecube and absolutely loved it.

I even tried Four Swords adventures for gamecube, it was OK, not the best, but decent considering what it was.

But now I really feel that Zelda is very pitiful.

Twilight Princess, to me, was disgusting. Just a pandering to something that seemed like nostalgia for nostalgia's sake instead of trying to push the series forward. I didn't like it, it was gross and bad.

Phantom Hourglass was also a major disappointment. It was just boring, just plain boring.

I don't understand, the series was so great, even though some of its games weren't the greatest, such as Majora, they didn't fill me with some kind of dread like Twilight Princess and Phantom Hourglass did.

So I was trying to redeem my hope for the series, give it a chance, keep it alive, and then they talk about spirit tracks, which to me, looks again like some gimmicky pandering to who knows what and who knows why. OK, well, perhaps, I can just ignore the handheld Zelda game, hopefully they will take a new edge with the Wii Zelda game.

But no, they have that Wii Zelda screenshot and it sports the same cruddy art style of Twilight Princess, I wonder if Nintendo has even played its own game, it just isn't that good, at all.

I felt Twilight Princess could just have been a bad mistake and that Nintendo could get another chance to makes things right, since it's only fair, we all make mistakes.

But no, they want to make the same mistake again.

Nintendo, the Twilight Princess art style isn't that great. I don't understand why you think cartoony pastelly equals good, it doesn't.

It boggles me.

I adored Ocarina of Time, for years I called it my favorite game. I loved Wind Waker, and I even played Minish Cap for GBA, which had the art style of Wind Waker, and that wasn't half-bad.

But I'm tired of the boring ugly, unnattractive repetetiveness of this Zelda stuff. To me, the fire is gone, the charm is bleached out, it was once a beautiful substance that now only LOOKS like Zelda.

Zelda is gone, it's just no more, not the same. It's been made into a product, abandoned as a legend.

It's the Product of Zelda.

The legend is gone.

Rest in peace.

Zelda is dead.

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#2 Shad0ki11
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Zelda is immortal. ;)

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#3 freakbabyblues
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I loved TP, art sty'le included. As did many others. I guess high ratings mean nothing these days...

Zelda is immortal. ;)

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Tis true, my friend.

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#4 megapikachu101
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that's because nintendo doesn't care about you they only care about money and as long as zelda sells it will be remade over and over again

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#5 OreoMilkshake
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I feel like I'm the only person in the world that liked Twilight Princess.
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#6 avatar_genius
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I feel like I'm the only person in the world that liked Twilight Princess.OreoMilkshake

There were people who liked it, I know many people in real-life who liked it a lot, but I found it hard to stomach.

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#7 Renegade_Fury
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I feel like I'm the only person in the world that liked Twilight Princess.OreoMilkshake
Fret not, I loved i too. I don't understand how anyone can say Wind Waker was better.

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#8 avatar_genius
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[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]I feel like I'm the only person in the world that liked Twilight Princess.Renegade_Fury

Fret not, I loved i too. I don't understand how anyone can say Wind Waker was better.

It was more fun.

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#9 surrealnumber5
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zelda is as alive as link is
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#10 Renegade_Fury
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[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]I feel like I'm the only person in the world that liked Twilight Princess.avatar_genius

Fret not, I loved i too. I don't understand how anyone can say Wind Waker was better.

It was more fun.

How? It was shorter, easier, had like 4 dungeons, and the final fight was so uninteresting. I wasn't a fan of the art style either. Don't get me started on the sailing....

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#11 deactivated-5b2b34c3a42a1
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Twilight Princess was great, you can't expect Nintendo to make each Zelda on par with OoT.

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#12 kidcool189
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zelda is far from dead, especially since its most recent games, TP and phantom hourglass were fantastic games(may of not been the best of the series but still great) just seems you're getting sick of zelda TC
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#13 Shad0ki11
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[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]I feel like I'm the only person in the world that liked Twilight Princess.Renegade_Fury

Fret not, I loved i too. I don't understand how anyone can say Wind Waker was better.

Wind Waker was much better than Twilight Princess though. o_o;;

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#14 goblaa
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While TP was fun and great, it showed that the zelda formula is getting a little long in the tooth. And I don't mean the setting or story, I mean the game play.

PH on the other hand i loved and I can't wait for spirit tracks.

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#15 Renegade_Fury
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Wind Waker was much better than Twilight Princess though. o_o;; Shad0ki11

I'll quote myself

How? It was shorter, easier, had like 4 dungeons, and the final fight was so uninteresting. I wasn't a fan of the art style either. Don't get me started on the sailing.... Renegade_Fury

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#16 Chutebox
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No she's not, I've saved her every single time she's been in trouble.

I think I'd know if she was dead or not.

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#17 Shad0ki11
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[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

Wind Waker was much better than Twilight Princess though. o_o;; Renegade_Fury

I'll quote myself

How? It was shorter, easier, had like 4 dungeons, and the final fight was so uninteresting. I wasn't a fan of the art style either. Don't get me started on the sailing.... Renegade_Fury

Quoting yourself doesn't change anything, sir. :P

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#18 mariokart64fan
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zelda is far from dead mario is definatelly far from dead,

nintendo them selfs are far from dead,

if zelda mario etc died- theres the hardcore right there,

the real hardcore the ones who played since nes .

or earlier then gc , ,

those are gonna be the ones leaving and if they do so does the innovation in games , , because onece sony and ms go side by side its gonna be a battle of power .and you know what,

this will lead to shorter and shorter and shorter games, if it hasnt happened already

more competition =the better,

keep that in mind when thinking zelda is dead or nintendo is dead, because the truth is you dont want to see that happen ,

itll take a second if both nintendo and another major console maker leaves for another gaming crash , ,

atari brings back those memorys dont it ,

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#19 avatar_genius
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Twilight Princess was great, you can't expect Nintendo to make each Zelda on par with OoT.

ColdP1zza

I don't expect each Zelda to be on par with Ocarina of Time.

Wind Waker wasn't, Minsh Cap wasn't, yet I still loved them because they were fun games. They tried things and pushed the envelope and suceeded. WW and MC are still fun games, OoT quality par or not.

Twilight Princess and Phantom Hourglass just didn't enthrall me at all. They almost put me to sleep. As games in their own right, I just plain didn't like them. They weren't fun.

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#20 Twin-Blade
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Zelda is dead.. to you. Twilight Princess was a blast. I'm sorry to hear you don't feel the same way. I'm also sorry to hear a game featuring no gore was "gross" & "disgusted" you.

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#21 avatar_genius
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just seems you're getting sick of zelda TCkidcool189

maybe I am

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#22 Renegade_Fury
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Quoting yourself doesn't change anything, sir. :P

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Yeah, I still like TP better. :D

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#23 SmokinDankNugz
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I feel like I'm the only person in the world that liked Twilight Princess.OreoMilkshake
Dude I loved it. It's close to Ocarina for me.
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#24 Shad0ki11
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[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

Quoting yourself doesn't change anything, sir. :P

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Yeah, I still like TP better. :D

Whatever floats your boat. We're all gamers. We have the freedom to enjoy whatever games we please regardless of what other people think. 8)

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#25 Renegade_Fury
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[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

Quoting yourself doesn't change anything, sir. :P

Shad0ki11

Yeah, I still like TP better. :D

Whatever floats your boat. We're all gamers. We have the freedom to enjoy whatever games we please regardless of what other people think. 8)

True that. Most fanboys on this board would have you believe otherwise though. :P
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#26 kidcool189
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[QUOTE="kidcool189"]just seems you're getting sick of zelda TCavatar_genius

maybe I am

hopefully the next major zelda release will give u a change of mind of it being dead :D
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#27 Thunderdrone
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Zelda is DEAD, and

I love sensationalist titles

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#28 thejakel11225
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who killed her?

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#29 avatar_genius
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[QUOTE="avatar_genius"]

[QUOTE="kidcool189"]just seems you're getting sick of zelda TCkidcool189

maybe I am

hopefully the next major zelda release will give u a change of mind of it being dead :D

I honestly hope so. I would love to get back into the series, I loved it.

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#30 Thunderdrone
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who killed her?

thejakel11225

TC's sharp tears

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#31 Guybrush_3
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I feel like I'm the only person in the world that liked Twilight Princess.OreoMilkshake

You're not. From what I can tell the vast majority of the hate is confined to SW. I don't see much of it anywhere else.

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#32 Trmpt
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No she's not, I've saved her every single time she's been in trouble.

I think I'd know if she was dead or not.

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I lol'd :lol:
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#33 tubbyc
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I loved the art style of Twilight Princess, especially Zora's Domain. As a game though, I preferred Wind Waker. I think it's because I enjoyed the sailing and treasure hunting more than the collection quests in TP.

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#34 aero250
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How can it be dead when people still want more Zelda?
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#35 aero250
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[QUOTE="Trmpt"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

No she's not, I've saved her every single time she's been in trouble.

I think I'd know if she was dead or not.

I lol'd :lol:

nice one chutebox.
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#36 _Teron_
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IMHO, Twilight Princess was a blast. I liked the OoT-WW fusion art style, the huge world, twin hookshots and whatnot. The dark world sections were nice too, even if being stuck in them was annoying at times.

Phantom Hourglass, on the other hand... Just don't get me started. Suffice to say that the idiot who came up with the Temple of the Ocean King should be shot. Most annoying dungeon in a Zelda game ever.

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#37 akif22
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Zelda is immortal. ;)

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i agree and you can't condemn the franchise after one supposedly bad game twilight princess was a lot like OOT because that's what the fans had wanted .. at first people didn't like WW's style, then loved it, but people still wanted a darker, more mature zelda nintendo gave us one, and it wasn't as good as previous ones because it lost some of its charm and originality nintendo are free from that with this new game .. i'm sure the charm and freshness will be back, and we'll fall in love with it like with past games
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#38 fenwickhotmail
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Since Majora's Mask it's been dead for me, they never seem to add anything substantial in terms of improving gameplay or simply making it different. A Link to the Past was great then Ocarina of Time was amazing, after that, they've been average games, not just by the series' high standards, but average games in general.
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#39 haziqonfire
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[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]I feel like I'm the only person in the world that liked Twilight Princess.Renegade_Fury

Fret not, I loved i too. I don't understand how anyone can say Wind Waker was better.

Because it was, in every way.
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#40 NielsNL
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Zelda is immortal. ;)

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#41 wapahala
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[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

Zelda is immortal. ;)

akif22

i agree and you can't condemn the franchise after one supposedly bad game twilight princess was a lot like OOT because that's what the fans had wanted .. at first people didn't like WW's style, then loved it, but people still wanted a darker, more mature zelda nintendo gave us one, and it wasn't as good as previous ones because it lost some of its charm and originality nintendo are free from that with this new game .. i'm sure the charm and freshness will be back, and we'll fall in love with it like with past games

Basically, Nintendo is damned if they do, and damned if they don't.

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#42 CoralMark
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Zelda is dead.. to you. Twilight Princess was a blast. I'm sorry to hear you don't feel the same way. I'm also sorry to hear a game featuring no gore was "gross" & "disgusted" you.

Twin-Blade

I think the critical factor is YOU. Perhaps you've grown too old/jaded to enjoy it anymore ... and perhaps you've grown out of the target demographic.

Personally, shooters are dead to me ... but does that mean that no one should enjoy it? Nope ...

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#43 nintendoboy16
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I feel it's dead too. Although the last I'm going to play is Spirit Tracks, it hasn't been itself, courtesy of Twilight Princess. Seriously, to me, Zelda needs to die along with Dragon Ball and Naruto.

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#44 freek666
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You should've played Oracle of Ages/Seasons. Those games are by far my favourite. And no, LoZ will never die.

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#45 mo0ksi
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Majora's Mask's gameplay is OK? Okay :roll: I think that it's the best in the series becasue it was the much more unique, darker and deeper game than the rest. There was a lot to take account for over the three day rotations and I thought the gameworld was unforgettable. I think the franchise is still in great shape.
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#46 wapahala
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Majora's Mask's gameplay is OK? Okay :roll: I think that it's the best in the series becasue it was the much more unique, darker and deeper game than the rest. There was a lot to take account for over the three day rotations and I thought the gameworld was unforgettable. I think the franchise is still in great shape.mo0ksi

Yeah, Majora's Mask was fantastic! It was so deep, and the whole mask/3-day time period thing was genius! I hope the next game is set in Termina... that would be something.

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#47 Dystopian-X
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Bleh you said you didn't like MM so I guess I'm gonna disagree with most of it. Sure Zelda isn't as mainstream as it used to be but it's by no means dead. Even though TP was nothing new it was still a great game compared to most games out by then anyways.
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#48 2-10-08
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What? MM gameplay was the exact same as Ocarina of Time. I enjoyed TP more than I did Ocarina of Time anyway.

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#49 skrat_01
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Now I really feel like playing Majora's Mask.
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#50 madsnakehhh
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While TP was fun and great, it showed that the zelda formula is getting a little long in the tooth. And I don't mean the setting or story, I mean the game play.

PH on the other hand i loved and I can't wait for spirit tracks.

goblaa

Exactly my feeling, TP is great, really, really great, but the gameplay is been there done that, i feel thatnow isthe right time to come out with new ideas.

PH is great too, i played it on my cousin's DS and i havea really fun time, specially because i haven't played any DS game like this one, so for me was excellent.