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#1  Edited By Calvincfb
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That, in the end, it's not the fps, but the fun fact, that matter.

Prove that raw power can't do anything if there's not someone good enough to use that power.

Prove that you really need to invest on your ips to make them worthwhile.

Prove that the bar can be set higher even with "weak hardware".

And prove that exclusives still matter.

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Well I think people are more forgivable of frame-rate issues in open world console games than in other genres. I certainly don't believe a 2D platformer with a sketchy frame-rate would fair better.

I think it depends on the genre; fighting games and racing games for instance require precision that can't really be lost.

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#3  Edited By Juub1990
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They prove Microsoft sucks at making exclusives lol.

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#4 Calvincfb
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@Juub1990: this too, but there's nothing good about kicking a dead dog.

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#5  Edited By deactivated-5ebea105efb64
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60fps is still nice to have tho.

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#6 SecretPolice
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"Sea of Thieves, Forza Horizon 3, Quantum Break, Halo 5, MCC, Sunset Overdrive and others prove somethings.."

That, in the end, it's not the fps, but the fun fact, that matter.

Prove that raw power can't do anything if there's not someone good enough to use that power.

Prove that you really need to invest on your ips to make them worthwhile.

Prove that the bar can be set higher even with "weak hardware".

And prove that exclusives still matter.

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There fixed that for ya, you can thank me later. lol :P

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#7 Calvincfb
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@SecretPolice: thanks, this laugh was a good one HAHAHAHAHAH

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@calvincfb: So the FPS might not matter when it comes to having fun with a game, but the review score does.

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#9 SecretPolice
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@calvincfb:

The fear is realzzzz... Baby!!

Lol :P

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#10  Edited By BassMan
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@calvincfb: Yes, they prove that the console hardware is shit and the games would be better played on PC. Such a shame to have talented studios working with shit hardware and not being able to have their games run properly.

Console exclusives are like releasing a great movie that is only available on VHS. The quality is not there.

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#11  Edited By ellos
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@BassMan said:

@calvincfb: Yes, they prove that the console hardware is shit and the games would be better played on PC. Such a shame to have talented studios working with shit hardware and not being able to have their games run properly.

Console exclusives are like releasing a great movie that is only available on VHS. The quality is not there.

At the end the day basically this is what they prove lol.

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#12 Calvincfb
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@ellos: lol @ this damage control, butthurt and meltdown.

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#13  Edited By Calvincfb
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@BassMan: damage control, damage control everywhere.

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#14 BassMan
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@calvincfb: I own all the consoles. So, I have access to all the games. There is no damage control. Only truth.

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#15 TryIt
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@calvincfb said:

That, in the end, it's not the fps, but the fun fact, that matter.

Prove that raw power can't do anything if there's not someone good enough to use that power.

Prove that you really need to invest on your ips to make them worthwhile.

Prove that the bar can be set higher even with "weak hardware".

And prove that exclusives still matter.

except that those games are not fun.

one is just a standard murder simulator clone and the other is just a movie game

zelda on the other had has a historical context to consider

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#16 Calvincfb
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@BassMan: yeah riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. I'll pretend to believe and concede if that will make you happy. But remember, I'm just pretending.

Oh, good luck on playing god of war on your shiny rig.

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@calvincfb said:

@Juub1990: this too, but there's nothing good about kicking a dead dog.

reflects well with your threads

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#18  Edited By BassMan
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@calvincfb: I will be playing God of War on my PS4 Pro on performance mode. Unfortunately, it is a variable frame rate and not a solid 60fps. This would not be an issue if the game was available on PC.

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#19  Edited By Calvincfb
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@howmakewood: good for you.

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#20 Calvincfb
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@BassMan: not the point.

The point of my thread was telling that it's not the fps that matter.

You can have all the right power but nothing matters if you don't have the people to do it.

A PC exclusive as good as console ones? Doesn't exist because the better minds are not PC exclusives, they're consoles.

Good luck on waiting to play Mario, Zelda, god of war on PC.

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@tryit said:
@calvincfb said:

That, in the end, it's not the fps, but the fun fact, that matter.

Prove that raw power can't do anything if there's not someone good enough to use that power.

Prove that you really need to invest on your ips to make them worthwhile.

Prove that the bar can be set higher even with "weak hardware".

And prove that exclusives still matter.

except that those games are not fun.

one is just a standard murder simulator clone and the other is just a movie game

zelda on the other had has a historical context to consider

Zelda has nothing but major FPS drops, copy and paste shrines, empty world and probably the worst implementation of weapon degradation. People have ultra low standards.

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#22 TryIt
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@Random_Matt said:
@tryit said:
@calvincfb said:

That, in the end, it's not the fps, but the fun fact, that matter.

Prove that raw power can't do anything if there's not someone good enough to use that power.

Prove that you really need to invest on your ips to make them worthwhile.

Prove that the bar can be set higher even with "weak hardware".

And prove that exclusives still matter.

except that those games are not fun.

one is just a standard murder simulator clone and the other is just a movie game

zelda on the other had has a historical context to consider

Zelda has nothing but major FPS drops, copy and paste shrines, empty world and probably the worst implementation of weapon degradation. People have ultra low standards.

I cant speak to Zelda.

FPS drops are not a qualifer for me to the question of fun.

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#23  Edited By Calvincfb
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@Random_Matt: still best game of the generation, gotta love that butthurt.

Guess you didn't play Zelda OoT because it was 480p and sub 30fps, right? How sad to be you.

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#24 Calvincfb
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But you know, the biggest problem with PC master race is that if the game isn't "muh ultra settings 4K 60fps" they can't enjoy it and that's really sad. Imagine losing all those good times and experiences just because, you know, it does not meet their criteria.

It's better do have "low standards" and have more fun than spending $1000 and not being able to play the best games there are OR dismiss them because resolution of fps.

Thank God I'm not a PC master race person.

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#25 LocalBully
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if anything it proves it's that microsoft lost this gen

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#26 TryIt
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@calvincfb said:

But you know, the biggest problem with PC master race is that if the game isn't "muh ultra settings 4K 60fps" they can't enjoy it and that's really sad. Imagine losing all those good times and experiences just because, you know, it does not meet their criteria.

It's better do have "low standards" and have more fun than spending $1000 and not being able to play the best games there are OR dismiss them because resolution of fps.

Thank God I'm not a PC master race person.

there are PC gamers like that for sure.

I (as a PC gamer) is not one of them HOWEVER, I do point out that in the PC space 60fps has been the understood standard for more than a decade but that is not realted to game being fun or not

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#27 BassMan
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@calvincfb: Frame rate matters a lot. It directly impacts the feel of the game. Technical shortcomings ruin the immersion.

Like I said before, I have the consoles for exclusives. So, I don't have to wait on any games. Also, Breath of the Wild is available on PC. It plays at 60fps and you can even disable weapon degradation. :)

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#28 Calvincfb
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@BassMan: so, in the end you resort to pirating and cheating. Shame on you. Smh.

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@calvincfb said:

@Random_Matt: still best game of the generation, gotta love that butthurt.

Guess you didn't play Zelda OoT because it was 480p and sub 30fps, right? How sad to be you.

Butthurt? Nope, played crap loads of it. All what i have said is true, i just do not ignore it.

OOT, i didn't have standards back then, i was 11 in 1996, which i believe N64 came out. Besides OOT is still the better game, i do not like the direction the new Zelda has taken.

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#30 Tigerbalm
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@SecretPolice: Yes, it proves that shit games move to 4K is still shit game. I think you forgot Ryse.

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#31 Calvincfb
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@Random_Matt: doesn't matter what you think, BotW is still the best game of the generation. Well, not anymore, GOW and BotW are the best of the generation.

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#32 BassMan
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@calvincfb: Actually, I own BOTW on Switch and would have bought it on PC in the first place if Nintendo weren't greedy fucks that limit their games to proprietary hardware. As for cheating, the no degradation mod is simply correcting a poor design decision that I did not care for at all. You see, PC is an open platform that allows for cool shit like that. :)

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#33  Edited By SecretPolice
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@SecretPolice: Yes, it proves that awesome games move to 4K is even more AwesomeSauce game. I think you forgot Graphics King Ryse.

You are so right and I'm almost in full agreement. I'd say FH3 & Gears 4 > Ryse are the true Kings at least until Mighty Halo 6 GOAT hits the street.

It's good to be MonsterBox MasterRace. :P

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Single player exclusives have always driven the industry. Nitnendo would not have built an empire without them and Sony would not have created the greatest brand in gaming without them.

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#35  Edited By Calvincfb
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@BassMan: still cheating. Smh.

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#36 deactivated-5c18005f903a1
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@Random_Matt: yet it still managed to out score GoW.

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#37 Tigerbalm
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@SecretPolice: You need a Suckerpunch lobotomy.

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#38 Random_Matt
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@Random_Matt: yet it still managed to out score GoW.

I'm going to discuss what possible variables caused that, one possible example has already been highlighted on another thread. Although, in the grander scheme of things, i'm not interested in either games.

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#39 Calvincfb
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@blufalconultra: PC Gamers will never accept that because "muh 60fps 4k ultra settings" and them they all have their asses handed to themselves by the weaker and cheaper hardware having better and more polished experiences.

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#40 BassMan
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@calvincfb: I have no issue cheating in a single player game if it makes the experience more enjoyable. The Konami code is your friend. Hehe

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#41 Calvincfb
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@BassMan: still a cheater. Smh

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#42 BassMan
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@calvincfb: A little more effort please.

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@tigerbalm:

Hahahahahaha :P

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#44 Calvincfb
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@BassMan: no, refuse to talk to cheaters, I don't go down to such levels.

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#45  Edited By BassMan
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@calvincfb: LOL. I will accept your silence as a surrender. GG.

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#46 Calvincfb
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@BassMan: If that's what you need to keep your insecurity in check, be my guest

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@Juub1990 said:

They prove Microsoft sucks at making exclusives lol.

Pretty much.

Outside of Turn 10, I can't think of any other internal studio they have that has consistently released high quality IPs.

Bungie is long gone and Gears was only outstanding when it was under Epic Games. As soon as MS took control of both Gears and Halo both series started to suffer in quality.

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#48  Edited By QuadKnight
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@tryit said:
@calvincfb said:

That, in the end, it's not the fps, but the fun fact, that matter.

Prove that raw power can't do anything if there's not someone good enough to use that power.

Prove that you really need to invest on your ips to make them worthwhile.

Prove that the bar can be set higher even with "weak hardware".

And prove that exclusives still matter.

except that those games are not fun.

one is just a standard murder simulator clone and the other is just a movie game

zelda on the other had has a historical context to consider

"Murder Simulator"?

LOL, are you even listening to yourself? The butthurt and salt have started messing with your brain.

Jesus Christ, you salty ass fanboys are pathetic with your damage control.

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There's also no denying that improved performance/graphics can help make a game better. Can't polish a turn, though.

Take those same games and run them at 15-20fps and see people bitch.

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#50 Calvincfb
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@lundy86_4: true, I'll never deny that. But the point still remains, raw power is not everything