Your thoughts and predictions for upcoming Xbox X018 Event?

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#51 Posted by XVision84 (14452 posts) -
@ulttruz7 said:
@XVision84 said:

More studio acquisitions or related first party news. Microsoft's first party is a joke compared to Sony's. Their E3 reveal of acquired studios was good but they were also minor studios. The best one of the bunch was Ninja Theory, still a far cry from Sony's offerings.

Actually MS first party studio are on average better than Sony's. Sony has Santa Monica and maybe Naughty Dog (even though they lost their best talent) and maybe the San Diego studio. Guerrilla games makes multiple mediocre games before churning out a good one, Sucker Punch are average and Bend are unproven as they haven't made anything note worthy in nearly 2 decades and from the look of Days Gone that trend will continue. PolyPhony have been a failure since 2005 and on a downward trend while Turn 10 continue to embarrass them. That's not including the fact that Sony has studios like Pixel whatever (the studio made Enterwined or whatever) and studios making VR games.

Right now the only studio under MS that delivered a dud is Rare, when MS gets Obsidian and (possibly) Turtle Rock its going to be even more lopsided. Obsidian themselves have made 4 80+ games in the past 5 years, 3 of them while on massive budget constraints. Ninja Theory with less than 20 people and 10 million $$ made a game that blew Sucker Punch out of the water.

What? Killzone and inFAMOUS are critically acclaimed series. Not just that but Horizon was fantastic and Ghost of Tsushima looks great. Bend are unproven but they've made good games in the past and Days Gone looks good. The latest gran turismo games have also been good, GT6 had a metascore of 81. I don't know how you can define that as a failure lol. There's also Media Molecule and a bunch of other studios.

MS hasn't released an exclusive game of notable quality in a long time. Hellblade did not blow an entire studio out of the water lol. Obsidian isn't part of Microsoft, so far that's just a rumor.

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#53 Posted by Zappat (1207 posts) -
@ulttruz7 said:

@XVision84: Killzone Shadow fail = 73 series average 77

Infamous Second Son = 80, stand alone expansion = 73

Sucker Punch is mediocre - above average at best. Days Gone might be good if it runs at 30 FPS instead of 15fps,

Obsidian is pretty much all but confirmed, people are praying for this not to go through because they know it'll make the gap between Sony and MS first party studios even further, Sony simply cannot compete. Better luck with Gran Turismo 7 when it comes out in 2032 or Killzone 7 or whatever

Before proving that MS studios are better they first need to not cancel games and actually release finished ones. In the meantime Sony has several AAAE and AAE this gen while MS has like 2.

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#55 Posted by Zappat (1207 posts) -
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@zappat: What is your definition of an AAA game? I do agree that we need to see results and not just pedigree though however I want to know what you consider AAA?

That there's a consensus of quality 9+ so in Metacritic for me although some people use it specifically for this site.

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#56 Posted by XVision84 (14452 posts) -

@ulttruz7: Those aren't mediocre scores at all. They're around 80 which is good. I played all of those games and enjoyed them very much. Microsoft acquiring Obsidian doesn't put them on par lol.

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#57 Posted by robert_sparkes (1749 posts) -

I have idea what to expect ms haven't been in great form in terms of quality content.

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#59 Posted by robert_sparkes (1749 posts) -

I would like to see something to show what playground are up to but doubt that will happen. Probably show more forza dlc.

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#60 Edited by brimmul777 (3879 posts) -

@ajstyles: I have to mention, I'm married to 7 bisexual Playboy Bunnies and have a 12 inch penis. And Jennifer Aniston is just a little side thing that I am having, nothing special. 😋😉

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#61 Edited by XVision84 (14452 posts) -
@ulttruz7 said:
@XVision84 said:

@ulttruz7: Those aren't mediocre scores at all. They're around 80 which is good. I played all of those games and enjoyed them very much. Microsoft acquiring Obsidian doesn't put them on par lol.

You said "critically" acclaimed

Right now, 343i, Coalition and Turn 10 have better averages than Guerrilla games, Bend Studio, Polyphony and Sucker Punch. You can't say Sony has a better first party when Microsoft 3 studios that made the majority of their games blow past 90% of Sony's.

More importantly, compare genre to genre, shooters to shooters, racers to racers etc and Sony gets blown out of the water. MS doesn't make third person action/adventure games (which is what Sony predominately makes does well) at least not until recently. I'm not going to argue MS new studios making better third person action adventure games than Sony but that they have to come out before a proper comparison can be made.

Now MS is going to own RPG's between Playground and a full budget Obsidian as well as Sony does not have a studio that makes RPG's. Unless you consider Guerrilla an RPG developer even though I consider Horizon to be an action/adventure game with RPG' elements in it.

I'm in the process of making an Excel spread sheet that compiles every game made by every Microsoft and Sony owned developer since 2013 to settle this once and for all.

inFAMOUS 2 has 83, second son has 80. Killzone 3 has 84 and Killzone 2 has 91. That's all critically acclaimed, they are studios that have accomplished such things. 343i made 2 new halo entries that were good. The latest gears of war was not very good. Turn 10 is great as usual.

You can't just have Halo Gears Forza every single gen. What is it like the 8th halo? 6th gears of war? 7th Forza? They need new IP's already. Look at all of the new games coming out of Sony's studios.

Sony has media molecule, sony santa monica, sucker punch, bend, guerrilla, naughty dog, polyphony, and their Japan Studio. Those are all good developers pushing out good games.

The same cannot be said for Microsoft, not even close. Microsoft doesn't have quality nor quantity compared to Sony. Microsoft has 0 exclusives this gen with a metascore over 90. Sony has 7.

I agree that Sony doesn't have an RPG-centric studio under its belt and agree with your point regarding Horizon. I'm glad to see MS getting new developers but they still have a ways to go to catch up to what Sony has accomplished this generation. Guerrilla, Bend, and Sucker Punch all seem to be outdoing themselves with their upcoming releases and they're not even Sony's top tier studios.

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#63 Posted by XVision84 (14452 posts) -

@ulttruz7: My point is that Sucker Punch and Guerrilla are far from mediocre studios. They are very good, those are critically acclaimed scores. Horizon is also critically acclaimed and is arguably their best work. Sucker Punch hasn't released a game in a long time but Ghost of Tsushima looks great.

I'm not comparing gears to infamous. I'm comparing studios. Microsoft's top tier studios are still running the same Halo Gears Forza and The Coalition only has Gears 4 under their belt. I don't see how that compares to a track record like Guerrilla or Sucker Punch with a long history of quality exclusives.

You're right in that many of the exclusives aren't Sony first party. They are still excellent exclusives that Sony secured and Microsoft didn't. Obsidian would be a great pick up indeed and I look forward to their next games.

Overall I just wish MS wasn't so dang stagnant. Crackdown? Halo? Gears? Forza? Give me something new and exciting.

I wish you luck on that excel spreadsheet.

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#64 Posted by rzxv04 (279 posts) -

Almost there.

I think "Cloud" related things would be quite emphasized.

Maybe Direct ML/machine learning/AI/off site computing is gonna be hyped.

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#65 Posted by sakaiXx (4197 posts) -

I guess they will pad 2019 and 2020 with new pc/xbone games to increase buyer/fan confidence for next gen xbox. Its a good move too, needs to make sure xbox is in a good position.

Its will be a shock if they can bring japanese dev on board though. Mistwalker and atlus comes to mind. Firstly, Mistwalker never made a game for sony, used to have microsoft financial backing and its staff is very small but very influential. Atlus on the other hand seems to love to work with whoever pays them. Shin megami tensei also had appeared on xbox so why not.

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#66 Posted by SecretPolice (34153 posts) -

MonsterBox...

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#67 Posted by rzxv04 (279 posts) -

@sakaixx said:

I guess they will pad 2019 and 2020 with new pc/xbone games to increase buyer/fan confidence for next gen xbox. Its a good move too, needs to make sure xbox is in a good position.

Its will be a shock if they can bring japanese dev on board though. Mistwalker and atlus comes to mind. Firstly, Mistwalker never made a game for sony, used to have microsoft financial backing and its staff is very small but very influential. Atlus on the other hand seems to love to work with whoever pays them. Shin megami tensei also had appeared on xbox so why not.

That's an interesting note.

Now that you've mentioned that, I'd be less surprised.

Might they revive Scalebound with a different team?

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#68 Posted by rzxv04 (279 posts) -

from Gematsu

Microsoft will host a special two-hour “Inside Xbox: Live from X018” on November 10 at 1:00 p.m. PT / 4:00 p.m. ET, which will be live streamed on Mixer, Twitch, YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter, the company announced.

The broadcast will feature updates on Crackdown 3, Minecraft, Sea of Thieves, State of Decay 2, Forza Horizon 4, and a “surprise of two”—or “a couple big surprises.” For Xbox Game Pass, there will be “over a dozen game announcements.”

X018 will run from November 10 to 11 in New Mexico.

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#69 Edited by sakaiXx (4197 posts) -

@rzxv04 said:

from Gematsu

Microsoft will host a special two-hour “Inside Xbox: Live from X018” on November 10 at 1:00 p.m. PT / 4:00 p.m. ET, which will be live streamed on Mixer, Twitch, YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter, the company announced.

The broadcast will feature updates on Crackdown 3, Minecraft, Sea of Thieves, State of Decay 2, Forza Horizon 4, and a “surprise of two”—or “a couple big surprises.” For Xbox Game Pass, there will be “over a dozen game announcements.”

X018 will run from November 10 to 11 in New Mexico.

Wow that is a lot of announcements

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#70 Posted by XVision84 (14452 posts) -

@rzxv04: This better not be fake hype up, I'm looking forward to it though. They've kept quiet lately, hopefully it leads to something big like PSX.

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#71 Edited by I_P_Daily (9468 posts) -

Anyone know what time its on in Australia?

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#72 Posted by Sevenizz (2210 posts) -

I’ll watch it as I prefer the Xbox brand this generation so this event concerns me. But I think it’ll be more about the holiday offerings or soon after rather than the brand’s next console plans.

I don’t see this generation over yet (we’ll at least see another big holiday) so I expect a few surprises. I’d like to see a lot more OG Xbox BC announcements and few 360 games I haven seem come over yet.

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#73 Posted by xhawk27 (10884 posts) -

@i_p_daily said:

Anyone know what time its on in Australia?

What part of Australia? It's 1:00 pm Pacific time so if you live in Sydney it's 18 hours ahead.

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#74 Posted by rzxv04 (279 posts) -

@Sevenizz said:

I’ll watch it as I prefer the Xbox brand this generation so this event concerns me. But I think it’ll be more about the holiday offerings or soon after rather than the brand’s next console plans.

I don’t see this generation over yet (we’ll at least see another big holiday) so I expect a few surprises. I’d like to see a lot more OG Xbox BC announcements and few 360 games I haven seem come over yet.

I'm not an xbox fan but I'll watch it. I like watching big vg events in general and I hope MS makes a killing with the reveals.

Yeah. At best probably some insights or implied stuff for next gen.

More holiday sales would also be great.

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#75 Posted by The-A-Baum (1009 posts) -

Free goodies for Forza Horizon 4 and Sea of Thieves just for watching on Mixer. Just FYI.

I am expecting to at least see some Crackdown 3 multiplayer footage, Obsidian announcement and hopefully Turtle Beach acquisition or Left for Dead 3.

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#76 Posted by Fuhrer_D (812 posts) -

PUBG Hell Blade coming to Game Pass.

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#77 Posted by Dagubot (1016 posts) -

The audience is cringe...

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#78 Posted by BenjaminBanklin (3287 posts) -

Funny how no one bothered even making a live thread. Oh well. Crackdown 3 MP downgraded as hell, not even surprised.

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#79 Posted by ProtossRushX (4706 posts) -

Sea of dogshit :| didn't this game die yet?

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#80 Posted by hrt_rulz01 (17940 posts) -

@dagubot: Lol yeah... they're getting on my nerves.

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#81 Posted by ahmedkhan1994 (573 posts) -

I hope, that Microsoft shuts down xbox console manufacturing and focus on games that will be released on all consoles including PS4. Basically, admitting defeat.

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#82 Posted by Pedro (32033 posts) -

Sea of Thieves Arena was long overdue. Finally the fools are going to utilize the strongest element of the game.

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#83 Edited by hrt_rulz01 (17940 posts) -

@ahmedkhan1994: I hope you stop posting... go away.

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#84 Posted by Dagubot (1016 posts) -
@ProtossRushX said:

Sea of dogshit :| didn't this game die yet?

Who's forcing you to watch this? You hate Microsoft...lmao.

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#85 Posted by BenjaminBanklin (3287 posts) -

Xbox dudes having meltdowns on Era demanding bans because people are laughing at the crowd.

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#86 Posted by ProtossRushX (4706 posts) -

Crowd was chanting sea of thieves like nutbags

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#87 Posted by hrt_rulz01 (17940 posts) -

@dagubot: Because like most cows he prefers to put sh*t on what others like instead of enjoying games himself.

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#88 Posted by ahmedkhan1994 (573 posts) -

@hrt_rulz01: I'm here to stay.

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#89 Posted by NathanDrakeSwag (12508 posts) -

A Just Cause 4 chant? I'm dead. I've seen obvious fake crowds before but this one takes the cake.

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#90 Posted by NathanDrakeSwag (12508 posts) -
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Xbox dudes having meltdowns on Era demanding bans because people are laughing at the crowd.

They're calling people racist because they think a Mexican crowd is being annoying. That site needs to burn down lol.

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#91 Posted by hrt_rulz01 (17940 posts) -

What's funny is why you cows are watching this? Why do you care? You're so desperate for anything to sh*t on aren't you. Lol. Get a life.

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#92 Posted by BenjaminBanklin (3287 posts) -
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:

Xbox dudes having meltdowns on Era demanding bans because people are laughing at the crowd.

They're calling people racist because they think a Mexican crowd is being annoying. That site needs to burn down lol.

"Fake crowds are OK", actually said in the thread. LOL!

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#93 Posted by cainetao11 (35689 posts) -

Enjoying the show. Loved the look at DMC5 and talking about JC4. Gamepass keeps being an amazing value for gamers; Crackdown 3 MP has me interested in trying it; Matt Booty will be up at the end to talk studios. No doubt that since Surface made its name and Terry Myerson is gone, Spencer and Xbox are getting that funding now.

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#94 Posted by cainetao11 (35689 posts) -
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#95 Posted by cainetao11 (35689 posts) -

Obsidian and InXile are now Xbox. Look forward to seeing what the future holds. Thank you MSFT and God bless the United States, and viva la Mexico!

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#96 Posted by Fuhrer_D (812 posts) -

Good show, lots of stuff to play on Game Pass.

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#97 Edited by mowgly1 (1131 posts) -

Show was bad. Really! Reading on ERA.....LOL

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#98 Posted by I_P_Daily (9468 posts) -

The show was boring and it should of only went for an hour.

Only thing of note was the studios they acquired.

MS please tell us is Terry Crews the main character in Crackdown 3, that's all I want to know.

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#99 Edited by BenjaminBanklin (3287 posts) -

Did they just hold a two hour show with some fake-hype crowds and GP ads only to announce the newest code slaves they bought? At one time, didn't Microsoft actually show games over buying studios?

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#100 Edited by Boycie (4566 posts) -

@BenjaminBanklin: ‘code slaves’...