Xbox's 2021 "exclusive" games lineup (AKA The parade of sad)

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#251  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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@mowgly1 said:

@HalcyonScarlet:

"The world's most trusted and quoted source for games market insights and analytics"

Key part - analysts and market insights. So, they don't have concrete data like NPD for US market, GFK, EMEA for Europe, Media Create / Famitsu for Japan.

Why you always link some UK retailers, Amazon UK in that case? Market exists outside UK. Fnac is biggest retailer for electronics in France. And France is big market too. I've didn't have found "some" retailers. Retailers which i've provided are one of the biggest in their own country or across Europe.

So, Brazil and Mexico are one of the few countries where Xbox is selling better than PS. Americanas is one of the biggest in Brazil and XSS is available there :

https://www.americanas.com.br/produto/2117190549

In Mexico is available too

https://www.walmart.com.mx/videojuegos/xbox-series/consolas-xbox-series/consola-xbox-series-s-512-gb_00088984265135?gclid=Cj0KCQiA8dH-BRD_ARIsAC24umZhY9BBbJlTiUfMDhqyeEB2Es2f2JCwyLjLLiJWNT5OQUwzId0kBroaAtYkEALw_wcB

https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx/MLM-824936568-consola-xbox-series-s-512gb-_JM?matt_tool=48642674&matt_word=&matt_source=google&matt_campaign_id=11406480852&matt_ad_group_id=117391946611&matt_match_type=&matt_network=g&matt_device=c&matt_creative=473973670742&matt_keyword=&matt_ad_position=&matt_ad_type=pla&matt_merchant_id=232660458&matt_product_id=MLM824936568&matt_product_partition_id=312086018798&matt_target_id=pla-312086018798&gclid=Cj0KCQiA8dH-BRD_ARIsAC24umbYFzeb4KDoix_INvsTZeLSOhFHu13k28TOAERwgUrnJ8NxEJ-ORKoaAmnKEALw_wcB

To me, XSS isn't hot stuff nor it selling well when it's a new console.

Who cares about your opinion of what is considered selling well or not?

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#252 mowgly1
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@HalcyonScarlet:

Well, when new console is widely available, then that's a problem.

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#253 HalcyonScarlet
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@mowgly1 said:

@HalcyonScarlet:

Well, when new console is widely available, then that's a problem.

Not if it's consistently selling it's not. This is again coming back to your perceptions of what is a problem and what isn't.

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#254 mowgly1
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@HalcyonScarlet:

It's not my perception. When during launch and post launch production outpacing demand, then there will be a problem in near future. Xbone already had 900k units on shelves at the end of 2013. Then comes devaluation of product like MS already did at the beginning of 2014 for Xbone to sell consoles.

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#255 HalcyonScarlet
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@mowgly1 said:

@HalcyonScarlet:

It's not my perception. When during launch and post launch production outpacing demand, then there will be a problem in near future. Xbone already had 900k units on shelves at the end of 2013. Then comes devaluation of product like MS already did at the beginning of 2014 for Xbone to sell consoles.

It's your perception because you're basing the view on weak material. You're not basing it on sales numbers and projections.

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#256 robert_sparkes
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Sony has ratchet, gran turismo 7, Horizon 2 and kena bridge of spirits its a pretty impressive list then you look at this MS list for me its about quality over quantity.

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#257 sealionact
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@phlop_spencer: Wrong. You failed to mention one widespread issue, and resorted to intentional designs like the controller.

The ps5 has issues that are widespread, and features that dont work as intended.

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#258 Phlop_Spencer
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@sealionact: LOL. Lets see some proof of your widespread PS5 issues buddy. Show me the proof, cause youre just talking out your ass - salty that Xbox getting its floor mopped by ps AGAIN.

Does ps currently have one or more class action lawsuits due to faulty controllers? Including its $200 elite series 2?

You have nothing

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#259 sealionact
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Heres the proof. Seriously, if you havent heard about the issue with the SSD bay being disabled, the 3d audio not ready for anything apart from headphones and the issue about saving games to an hdd, then you have your head even further buried in the sand than I thought.

Sony promise fix for HDR issue in future update

Sony promises future update for 3D audio, currently only works on some headphones.

Sony confirm SSD bay will be disabled at launch

PS5 games cant be saved to external hdd. Future update will address this

So there you have it. How are you going to spin this? ...or are you going to be man enough to admit that when I was speaking to benji about widespread issues, I was talking about issues that affect every single ps5....unlike your anecdotal and isolated issues, and actual hardware choices.

Drumroll......

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#260 Ghost_of_Phobos
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@sealionact: Obviously Sony was paid by MS to spread FUD about the PS5. Duh!

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#261 sealionact
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@ghost_of_phobos: If he does answer, it'll be along those lines....or he'll say those issues don't affect him.

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#262 sts106mat
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@sealionact: friend at work was saying one of the ps5 chips is working overclocked constantly. Apparently its rated for 60 degrees but is 100 degrees. Some consoles shutting down when gets too hot. I havent seen anything in the news about this have you?

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#263 Phlop_Spencer
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@sealionact: those are just features coming in the future you fucking clown. Widespread issues LOL. Stick to being butthurt about having nothing to play

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#264 sealionact
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@phlop_spencer: Muhahaha......classic. I knew you wouldn't disappoint us. I lay down points, you dispute them, counter with nonsensical points and demand proof. You don't like the proof and resort to "games".

Muhaha....

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#265 Pedro
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@phlop_spencer said:

@sealionact: those are just features coming in the future you fucking clown. Widespread issues LOL. Stick to being butthurt about having nothing to play

So you are saying they released an unfinished console. 不

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#266 Phlop_Spencer
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@sealionact: you laid down nothing. Incoming features are not widespread issues. Moron

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#267 sealionact
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@sts106mat: No, and deffo not widespread.

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#268 Phlop_Spencer
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@Pedro: Pedro. Speak when spoken to. When you contribute anything of substance, maybe youll look less of a dummy.

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#269 sealionact
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@phlop_spencer: Right....so a console that launches with no expandable memory and needs you to uninstall games to make space for new ones because it can't save them externally and a half baked sound solution together with a bug that won't allow 4k hdr on the biggest manufacturers of TVs on the planet launched "with no issues" because Sony have promised fixes for those problems in the future.

Fixes. As in solve an issue.

Wonder what they're releasing fixes for if it launched without any issues?

Thanks again....you're a constant source of merriment in these strange times.

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#270 Phlop_Spencer
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@sealionact:

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/xbox/forum/xba_console/known-issues-on-xbox-series-xs/221c9d7f-dc91-4067-ba81-33ab671179b5

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/screenrant.com/xbox-series-x-problems-shutting-off-quick-resume/amp/

https://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-series-x/Temporary_Call_of_Duty:_Black_Ops_Cold_War_Crashing_Solution

So in addition to having zero new games, the Xbox needs to disable certain in game features to prevent crashing and has wireless controller problems lol. Old UI, no games and worse performance = Xbox worst place to play.

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#271 Pedro
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@phlop_spencer said:

@Pedro: Pedro. Speak when spoken to. When you contribute anything of substance, maybe youll look less of a dummy.

I am sorry, are you vexed by the fact you confirmed Sony released an unfinished product? 不

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#272 Eoten
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Didn't Sony also release some substandard fans in a panic to meet promised supplies, resulting in some people getting excessively loud and whiny consoles? And their PSUs have a tendency to produce a lot of coil whine as well.

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#273 sealionact
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@phlop_spencer: From your link, these are the list of issues

No eaplay app. Workaround ;install the app.

Some controllers not working with windows. Workaround; Update windows.

Some controllers not working with steam. Workaround; Use fix in steam client.

Some games dont work with quick resume.

And so on.

I mean, do you see a pattern here? Some users is not widespread is it?

Theres no disabled or half enabled features affecting every Xbox.

Youre really not doing a very good job of wiping the egg off your face.....and you know it.

Thats what makes these forums fun.

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#274 mojito1988
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I have my Nintendo and Sony Systems for Exclusives. I just use Xbox for Gamepass (and am very happy with it for that)

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#275 lebanese_boy
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@phlop_spencer: @sealionact: Damnit Phil stop arguing with yourself!

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#276  Edited By LuxuryHeart
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@davillain- said:

It's a good thing all of those sad and pathetic MS games are all coming to the GP which I'll be playing on PC. Thank you, MS so I won't have to buy your pathetic consoles ever again.

  • Halo: Infinite
  • The Medium
  • The Gunk
  • Starfield

Those are MS games I'm way more interested in than the rest of that list.

You need to cool it with the MS hate. It's not a good look for a mod NGL.

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#277  Edited By DaVillain-  Moderator
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@luxuryheart: If I was hating on MS, I wouldn't be supporting Game Pass. I didn't think you care about me. You're support is noted ;)

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#278  Edited By mowgly1
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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@mowgly1 said:

@HalcyonScarlet:

It's not my perception. When during launch and post launch production outpacing demand, then there will be a problem in near future. Xbone already had 900k units on shelves at the end of 2013. Then comes devaluation of product like MS already did at the beginning of 2014 for Xbone to sell consoles.

It's your perception because you're basing the view on weak material. You're not basing it on sales numbers and projections.

It's not my perception. What happened with Xbone, same will happen with XSS.

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#279  Edited By Antwan3K
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@BenjaminBanklin said:

Oh god, Bethesda. It's ALL on you now. Xbox is coasting on fumes. Indies, PC hand-me-downs and multiplats that MS is expecting to be deleted from your Playstation I guess. 不不不

  • Adios
  • The Artful Escape
  • The Ascent
  • The Big Con
  • CrossfireX
  • Dead Static Drive
  • Echo Generation
  • ExoMecha
  • Exo One
  • The Gunk
  • Halo Infinite
  • The Last Stop
  • Lake
  • Little Witch in the Woods
  • The Medium
  • Microsoft Flight Simulator
  • Psychonauts 2 (also on PS, Xbox version on Game Pass)
  • RPG Time
  • Sable
  • Scorn
  • She Dreams Elsewhere
  • Shredders
  • Song of Iron
  • Tunic
  • Twelve Minutes
  • Unexplored 2: The Wayfarer's Legacy
  • Warhammer 40K: Darktide
  • Way to the Woods
  • The Wild at Heart
  • The Yakuza Remastered Collection (MS PR is high on crack now)

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2021/01/15/2021-xbox-exclusive-games/

I still wouldn't count on Halo this year and Flight Simulator is best played on PC. This is a sad lineup of games for a box that still needs some kind of AAA first party release to justify its existence. Everybody thought they were getting a deal on those $1 Game Pass subs. Looks more like MS is just stalling for time with fluff until everyone is paying full price. 不

the meme was "Xbox has no games", yet when they apparently have a list of 30~ games with varying levels of exclusivity coming in 2021 alone, some people are still not satisfied.. (i.e. fanboys)

Just glancing at that list, I'm personally interested in Halo: Infinite, Warhammer 40K: Darktide, The Ascent, The Medium, Microsoft Flight Simulator, Scorn, Crossfire X, Song of Iron, and The Gunk.. that's potentially nine exclusive games to look forward to this year and doesn't even count the fact that most (if not all) of those games will be available day one in Game Pass..

And yeah, this list doesn't even scratch the surfave of 1st party Xbox Game Studios titles coming for beyond 2021 and/or what's coming from the Bethesda acquisition which means there's even more to look forward to.. where's the issue?

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#280 sts106mat
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The curious case of benjamin butthurt

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#281 LuxuryHeart
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@davillain- said:

@luxuryheart: If I was hating on MS, I wouldn't be supporting Game Pass. I didn't think you care about me. You're support is noted ;)

Well I do have a bit more respect for you now, considering that you didn't delete my comment or suspend me. I've had to leave other forums because the modding there was awful. Like, you couldn't debate the mod or they'd delete your comment. So I do respect that you didn't.

But I personally just didn't like the pathetic word that you used to describe their games. It was a bit harsh, and I'm not even a huge fan of Microsoft by the way. So imagine how actual Microsoft fans would feel.

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#282  Edited By Antwan3K
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@sts106mat said:

The curious case of benjamin butthurt

seemingly..

the usual suspects of rabid cows who'll "list wars" you to death with 13 obscure Japanese games no one has ever heard of in same breath as crapping on this list, coupled with the "concerned fans" who constantly call for exclusive Xbox content only to scoff at exclusive Xbox content..

another day in SW it seems..

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#283 SecretPolice
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@sts106mat said:

The curious case of benjamin butthurt

That's just solid gold right there my friend. Laughed out loud. Good stuff. :D

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#284 sts106mat
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@SecretPolice:

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#285 SecretPolice
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@sts106mat:

On a roll...

;)

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#286 BenjaminBanklin
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Well, The Medium sucks. Guess we can mark that one off now. 不不不不 One of many underperformers to come.

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#287 regnaston
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@BenjaminBanklin said:

Well, The Medium sucks. Guess we can mark that one off now. 不不不不 One of many underperformers to come.

yeah a 9 sucks...

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cows mad disease

hah

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#289 BenjaminBanklin
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@regnaston said:

yeah a 9 sucks...

A 73 Meta ain't anything to be proud of.

Lems are saaaaad.

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#290 Duckyindiana
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@BenjaminBanklin: Youre on Gamespot not metacritic mate! Head there if you want. You wont be missed

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#291 HalcyonScarlet
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So now GT7 is being pushed back, the PS5 line up this year isn't looking much better?

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#292 WonderWinner
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@HalcyonScarlet: bumping old threads out of desperation

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#293  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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@wonderwinner said:

@HalcyonScarlet: bumping old threads out of desperation

Just sayin, you guys made a big deal out of the PS5 having better exclusives this year. Back it up. This thread was just young enough to still be used to bite the cows on the ass.

The Pedestrian - Jan

The Nioh Collection - Feb

Destruction All Stars - Feb

Returnal - March

Kena - Bridge of Spirits - March

Deathloop - May

Solar Ash - June

Ratchet And Clank - Rifts Apart - First Half of 2021

Little Devil Inside - July

Ghostwire Tokyo - October

Horizon Forbidden West - Second half 2021

Stray - October 2021

GT 7 - 2021

Goodbye Volcano High - 2021

Jet The Far Shore - 2021

God of War Ragnarok - 2021