Xbox Series X and Playstation 5 are both more powerful than Nintendo Switch?

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#1  Edited By MclarenMaster18
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Dear gamers in the System Wars board!

The Xbox Series X and PS5's specs are revealed since March 16th and March 18th respectively.

I haven't seen a user made a thread of comparing these two to Switch yet so I'm here to make one here.

What I've heard so far that PS5 appears to be weaker than Xbox Series X, but both are more powerful than Nintendo Switch. Just like how Xbox One is weaker than PS4 and both are stronger than Nintendo Wii U.

Bonus fact: PS4 Pro is weaker than Xbox One X but both are much stronger than Wii U too.

Xbox Series X's specs:

  • CPU: 8x Zen 2 Cores at 3.8GHz (3.6GHz with SMT) 939.96 GFLOPS FP32
  • GPU: 12.147 TFLOPS at 1825 MHz, 52 CUs at 1.825GHz, Custom RDNA2
  • DSP: TBA
  • Die Size: 360.45mm2
  • Process: TSMC 7nM Enhanced
  • Memory: 16GB GDDR6
  • Memory Bandwidth: 10GB at 560GB/s, 6GB at 336GB/s
  • Internal Storage: 1TB Custom NVMe SSD
  • IO Throughput: 2.4GB/s (Raw), 4.8GB/s (Compressed)
  • Expandable Storage: 1TB Expansion Card
  • External Storage: USB 3.2 HDD Support
  • Performance Target: 4K at 60fps - up to 120fps
  • Optical Drive: 4K UHD Blu-Ray Drive

Playstation 5's specs:

  • CPU: 8x Zen 2 Cores at 3.5GHz (variable frequency) 896 GFLOPS FP32
  • GPU: 10.28 TFLOPs, 36 CUs at 2.23GHz (variable frequency)
  • GPU Architecture: Custom RDNA 2
  • DSP: 100 GFLOPS FP32(?) (AMD CU based design, similar PS4 Jaguar 8 core power).
  • Memory/Interface: 16GB GDDR6/256-bit
  • Memory Bandwidth: 448GB/s
  • Internal Storage: Custom 825GB SSD
  • IO Throughput: 5.5GB/s (Raw), Typical 8-9GB/s (Compressed)
  • Expandable Storage: NVMe SSD Slot
  • External Storage: USB HDD Support
  • Optical Drive: 4K UHD Blu-ray Drive

Nintendo Switch's specs:

  • CPU: Four ARM Cortex A57 cores, max 2GHz
  • GPU: 393.2 GFLOPS, 256 CUDA cores, maximum 1GHz
  • Architecture: Nvidia second-generation Maxwell
  • Texture: 16 pixels/cycle
  • Fill: 14.4 pixels/cycle
  • Memory: 4GB
  • Memory Bandwidth: 25.6GB/s
  • VRAM: Shared
  • Storage: 32GB, max transfer rate 400MB/s
  • USB: USB 2.0/3.0
  • Video Output: 1080p60 (Docked mode)
  • Display: 6.2-inch IPS LCD, 1280x720 pixels (Handheld mode), 10-point multi-touch support
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#2 Pedro
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Its the end of multi-platform games for the Switch. That is all. Unless it supports game streaming.

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#3 I_P_Daily
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That's mean LOL.

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#4  Edited By MclarenMaster18
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@i_p_daily said:

That's mean LOL.

I guess sheeps like GoldenElementXL, KBFloyd, and many others are so going to rage lolz.

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#5 MclarenMaster18
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@Pedro said:

Its the end of multi-platform games for the Switch. That is all. Unless it supports game streaming.

This might be true too.

Just like how Wii U didn't get many 3rd parties as much as Xbox One and PS4.

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@mclarenmaster18 said:
@i_p_daily said:

That's mean LOL.

I guess sheeps like GoldenElementXL, KBFloyd and many others are so going to rage lolz.

KB is cool, however golden is a hypocrite and a muppet who's obsessed with lems because they piss in his cereal every morning LOL.

Isn't that right @GoldenElementXL :)

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#7  Edited By jeezers
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Switch still going to kill it, all indies will still thrive on it, Nintendo 1st party, there will still be many games ported to switch.

Its the only portable system now and only $200.

Switch will be fine

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Portability. /thread

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@jeezers: Xcloud.

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@jeezers said:

Switch still going to kill it, all indies will still thrive on it, Nintendo 1st party, there will still be many games ported to switch.

Its the only portable system now and only $200.

Switch will be fine

If the Switch struggles to handle games that are on the XB1/PS4 now, what makes you think the Switch will handle any games from next gen that aren't Indies???

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#11  Edited By MclarenMaster18
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@jeezers said:

Switch still going to kill it, all indies will still thrive on it, Nintendo 1st party, there will still be many games ported to switch.

Its the only portable system now and only $200.

Switch will be fine

Nintendo Switch is the only portable console, that is correct since they merged home console and portable together.

For Sony, they officially discontinued portable gaming after the end of PS Vita production/life span because the Vita has a poor library of games and unstable framerate (Making developers struggle to create games for it plus controls feel loose too).

While Microsoft used to have a portable gaming platform which is called Windows Phone and it has tons of games.

Oh, by the way, thanks for inspiring me to create this thread since you replied to me in one of Ghosts4Ever's threads. https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/xbox-series-x-is-basically-gaming-pc-33487410/

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#12  Edited By MclarenMaster18
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@i_p_daily said:
@mclarenmaster18 said:
@i_p_daily said:

That's mean LOL.

I guess sheeps like GoldenElementXL, KBFloyd and many others are so going to rage lolz.

KB is cool, however golden is a hypocrite and a muppet who's obsessed with lems because they piss in his cereal every morning LOL.

Isn't that right @GoldenElementXL :)

Yeah, I don't like them both, also I dislike sheep in GS forums.

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@mclarenmaster18 said:
@i_p_daily said:
@mclarenmaster18 said:
@i_p_daily said:

That's mean LOL.

I guess sheeps like GoldenElementXL, KBFloyd and many others are so going to rage lolz.

KB is cool, however golden is a hypocrite and a muppet who's obsessed with lems because they piss in his cereal every morning LOL.

Isn't that right @GoldenElementXL :)

Yeah, I don't like them both, also I dislike sheep in GS forums.

I don't have a problem with sheep, except for golden, its the cows and hermits which are the worst here.

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#14  Edited By hardwenzen
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Does the Switch even have 1tflop ๐Ÿ‘€๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ

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@i_p_daily said:
@mclarenmaster18 said:
@i_p_daily said:
@mclarenmaster18 said:
@i_p_daily said:

That's mean LOL.

I guess sheeps like GoldenElementXL, KBFloyd and many others are so going to rage lolz.

KB is cool, however golden is a hypocrite and a muppet who's obsessed with lems because they piss in his cereal every morning LOL.

Isn't that right @GoldenElementXL :)

Yeah, I don't like them both, also I dislike sheep in GS forums.

I don't have a problem with sheep, except for golden, its the cows and hermits which are the worst here.

The worst cow I've ever dealt with in System Wars board is Knight-K.

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@mclarenmaster18:

XSX CPU, 939.96 GFLOPS FP32,

XSX DSP, ????

-----

PS5 CPU, 896 GFLOPS FP32,

PS5 DSP, ~100 GFLOPS FP32(?) (AMD CU based design, similar PS4 Jaguar 8 core power).

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@mclarenmaster18 said:
@i_p_daily said:
@mclarenmaster18 said:
@i_p_daily said:
@mclarenmaster18 said:

I guess sheeps like GoldenElementXL, KBFloyd and many others are so going to rage lolz.

KB is cool, however golden is a hypocrite and a muppet who's obsessed with lems because they piss in his cereal every morning LOL.

Isn't that right @GoldenElementXL :)

Yeah, I don't like them both, also I dislike sheep in GS forums.

I don't have a problem with sheep, except for golden, its the cows and hermits which are the worst here.

The worst cow I've ever dealt with in System Wars board is Knight-K.

He's a calf, not even a challenge and hasn't been seen in a while, and after today a lot will be ghosting this place lol.

They will probably re-appear if The Lesbian of Us 2 gets a 10 here lol.

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#18 me2002
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WTF?

Base PS4 and even X1 are more powerful than the Switch.

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#19  Edited By Archangel3371
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Well why would anyone expect them not to be more powerful then the Switch? I donโ€™t even think that the Switch is as powerful as the base PS4 or Xbox One so Microsoft and Sony would have actually gone backwards to make their next gen systems less powerful then the Switch and well that would just obviously be quite silly. Also one surely canโ€™t expect a hybrid system that is as small and as thin as a tablet to reasonably be as powerful as a dedicated home console right?

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@me2002 said:

WTF?

Base PS4 and even X1 are more powerful than the Switch.

How do you not know this???

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#21 thereal25
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Jeez, thanks captain obvious!

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@ronvalencia said:

@mclarenmaster18:

XSX CPU, 939.96 GFLOPS FP32,

XSX DSP, ????

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PS5 CPU, 896 GFLOPS FP32,

PS5 DSP, ~100 GFLOPS FP32(?) (AMD CU based design, similar PS4 Jaguar 8 core power).

Thank you for letting me know about Xbox Series X and PS5's CPU GFLOPS so I've edited my thread.

Can you help me to find out Nintendo Switch's GFLOPS as well?

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@me2002 said:

WTF?

Base PS4 and even X1 are more powerful than the Switch.

If Switch was a home console rather than hybrid then it would have been more powerful than PS4 and XB1 combined.

Since I've known that the Switch is part of the 9th gen console era.

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@i_p_daily said:
@me2002 said:

WTF?

Base PS4 and even X1 are more powerful than the Switch.

How do you not know this???

I think you just read his post wrong. Since base PS4 and X1 are more powerful than the Switch, why wouldn't the next consoles be? His post is basically "why create a thread on something so obvious?".

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@mclarenmaster18 said:
@ronvalencia said:

@mclarenmaster18:

XSX CPU, 939.96 GFLOPS FP32,

XSX DSP, ????

-----

PS5 CPU, 896 GFLOPS FP32,

PS5 DSP, ~100 GFLOPS FP32(?) (AMD CU based design, similar PS4 Jaguar 8 core power).

Thank you for letting me know about Xbox Series X and PS5's CPU GFLOPS so I've edited my thread.

Can you help me to find out Nintendo Switch's GFLOPS as well?

Read https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nx-soc.c3104

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#26  Edited By mandzilla  Moderator
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It could well mean the end of the big blockbuster third-party titles, no more Witcher 3 or Outer Worlds type games once the next gen 10+ TFLOP systems release (whatever the heck a TFLOP is).

Even if a Switch Pro revision comes out I doubt it would have the horsepower to run even severely downgraded versions of the more graphically intensive titles.

On the other hand though, the Switch will have an install base of around 60 million by then, so perhaps developers will put out more stuff tailored for the system along the lines of Mario + Rabbids or Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3.

The disparity in power between the consoles could usher in a new age of third-party exclusives, as I'm guessing it will be cheaper to develop games for the Switch in comparison to the Xbox Series X and PS5, and certainly more profitable at least for a while due to the larger install base.

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#27 robert_sparkes
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This was always going to be the switches problem. Keeping up with the new generation is always a upwards battle especially for Nintendo. They just need to continue to get out quality first party and still need some 3rd party to cover gaps. I can see a switch pro but at what cost.

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@i_p_daily: The Switch doesn't rely on 3rd party games anyway. Their 1st party games sell the console.

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@wiiboxstation said:

@i_p_daily: The Switch doesn't rely on 3rd party games anyway. Their 1st party games sell the console.

That's a good point.

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@Litchie said:
@i_p_daily said:
@me2002 said:

WTF?

Base PS4 and even X1 are more powerful than the Switch.

How do you not know this???

I think you just read his post wrong. Since base PS4 and X1 are more powerful than the Switch, why wouldn't the next consoles be? His post is basically "why create a thread on something so obvious?".

LOL yeah you're right I did. I've made a shit ton of posts today, maybe its time to put the laptop away and go back to playing Alan Wake American Nightmare :)

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@mandzilla said:
@wiiboxstation said:

@i_p_daily: The Switch doesn't rely on 3rd party games anyway. Their 1st party games sell the console.

That's a good point.

Then why do sheep get shitty whenever a dev like say EA comes out and says its not making games for the Switch?

I can't imagine buying any gaming device just for first party games, it would get real old real quick.

I mean I bought an Xbox to play Forza, but I knew I would get a lot of great third party games also, same can't be said for the Switch.

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Console and mobile gaming is like Apples and oranges and in the mobile arena, the bait & switch is getting trounced by smart phones. lol :P

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We have already seen the switch not get games like battlefront 2 battlefield or COD and still no madden. Games like those I'm sure would sell but still not ported. I'm sure devs will continue to support the switch but Nintendo will have to step in to partly fund 3rd party projects.

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Can I have my braincells back please?

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@robert_sparkes said:

We have already seen the switch not get games like battlefront 2 battlefield or COD and still no madden. Games like those I'm sure would sell but still not ported. I'm sure devs will continue to support the switch but Nintendo will have to step in to partly fund 3rd party projects.

It seems to me that when Nintendo partly fund third-party games, then tend to be superior than the third-party games released on its systems. A recent example being Bayonetta 2.

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#36  Edited By MclarenMaster18
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@i_p_daily: For me, about Knight-K the Sony fan, the problem that I personally had with him is being a kart racing fan dissing on sim racing.

Anybody who is a kart racing fan biasedly bashing on sim racing, no matter if they're sheep, cow, lemming or hermit then I will go against them (If they antagonize me at the first place).

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For a PC gamer like myself, power of a console is something I hardly care about, it's the exclusive games is what's more important to me and Switch is no exception. I buy console's to play exclusives that catches my fancy and looks fun, not because of power mind you. Raw power comes from my gaming PC.

The Switch is still a fantastic console for it's portability and it comes in handy when I game on a shuttle bus during these hard times. More to the point, the average gamer should be looking for exclusives and if you want raw power, go to PC.

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I only have a switch lite but its great at what it does its incredible to see games like Doom running so well on the system. The 3rd party on it are a mixed bag saints row 3 was very poorly optimised where you see the quality of doom and it blows my mind that its running on the lite.

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@i_p_daily said:
however golden is a hypocrite and a muppet who's obsessed with lems
@mclarenmaster18 said:

Yeah, I don't like them both, also I dislike sheeps in GS forums.

@i_p_daily said:

I don't have a problem with sheep, except for golden

@i_p_daily said:
a muppet who's obsessed with lems because they piss in his cereal every morning LOL.

Isn't that right @GoldenElementXL :)

But I don't even eat cereal...

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#40  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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@hardwenzen: I hate to be that guy but if you are going to ROFL and make fun of the Switch's power you should at least know what the terms are that you're laughing about - you just wrote "does the Switch even have 1 trillion floating operations per"...which is obviously nonsensical when you write it out. The S is an important word in the acronym, not a plural, and TFLOPS refers to something hardware is capable of not something that it possesses

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@i_p_daily said:
@mandzilla said:
@wiiboxstation said:

@i_p_daily: The Switch doesn't rely on 3rd party games anyway. Their 1st party games sell the console.

That's a good point.

Then why do sheep get shitty whenever a dev like say EA comes out and says its not making games for the Switch?

I can't imagine buying any gaming device just for first party games, it would get real old real quick.

I mean I bought an Xbox to play Forza, but I knew I would get a lot of great third party games also, same can't be said for the Switch.

Hey not all of us haha, personally I have no interest whatsoever in EA games so not a big deal that they no longer support the Switch. Maybe some others were slightly miffed with EA because their efforts with the Switch were so lazy in comparison to other developers such as Bethesda, CD Projekt or even Ubisoft.

Anyway, there's more to the platform than simply the first-party stuff, I really like playing indies on it as it just feels more natural to play on a handheld than a tv screen. Was the same with the Vita.

And yep, that's true the Xbox is a great console itself and obviously gets way more third-party stuff than the Switch. Doesn't mean it's not a fun system though, they're like the inverse of each other - Xbox has tons of great multiplat games with some nice first-party offerings, while Switch has a bunch of superb exclusives and some neat third-party titles.

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@robert_sparkes said:

I only have a switch lite but its great at what it does its incredible to see games like Doom running so well on the system. The 3rd party on it are a mixed bag saints row 3 was very poorly optimised where you see the quality of doom and it blows my mind that its running on the lite.

For Doom on Switch, it looks pretty good and definitely looks better than any PS Vita shooters.

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#43  Edited By MclarenMaster18
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@ronvalencia said:
@mclarenmaster18 said:
@ronvalencia said:

@mclarenmaster18:

XSX CPU, 939.96 GFLOPS FP32,

XSX DSP, ????

-----

PS5 CPU, 896 GFLOPS FP32,

PS5 DSP, ~100 GFLOPS FP32(?) (AMD CU based design, similar PS4 Jaguar 8 core power).

Thank you for letting me know about Xbox Series X and PS5's CPU GFLOPS so I've edited my thread.

Can you help me to find out Nintendo Switch's GFLOPS as well?

Read https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nx-soc.c3104

Thank you again, you're so helpful.

For Xbox Series X's DSP I'm still curious about how well it turn will out and I predict that it may surpass PS5's DSP.

Sorry for a late reply while I was busy playing Project Gotham Racing 1 & 2 on my Xbox 360 via backwards compatibility.

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#44 Jag85
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Why is the OP title even a question?

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Thanks captain obvious for pointing out the extremely obvious.

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I didn't purchase a Switch for it's power, I got because I can take it everywhere and it has a big bunch of games to play.

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@raugutcon said:

I didn't purchase a Switch for it's power, I got because I can take it everywhere and it has a big bunch of games to play.

The last 1st party for Nintendo Switch I liked was Fire Emblem: Three Houses and it's a great tactical role-playing game.

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@Guy_Brohski said:

Thanks captain obvious for pointing out the extremely obvious.

Are you going to be mad that Xbox Series X/PS5 will be the better choice for realistic-looking driving games than Switch?


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@mclarenmaster18 said:
@jeezers said:

Switch still going to kill it, all indies will still thrive on it, Nintendo 1st party, there will still be many games ported to switch.

Its the only portable system now and only $200.

Switch will be fine

Nintendo Switch is the only portable console, that is correct since they merged home console and portable together.

For Sony, they officially discontinued portable gaming after the end of PS Vita production/life span because the Vita has a poor library of games and unstable framerate (Making developers struggle to create games for it plus controls feel loose too).

While Microsoft used to have a portable gaming platform which is called Windows Phone and it has tons of games.

Oh, by the way, thanks for inspiring me to create this thread since you replied to me in one of Ghosts4Ever's threads.https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/xbox-series-x-is-basically-gaming-pc-33487410/

Yup sony got out the handheld game

Microsoft is trying to get in the handheld game via streaming, which is a cool... But not the same imo. Switch has the edge imo still running off physical copies and downloads. Internet connections come into play with MS on portable.

Your a madman for making this thread, But i like it, glad i inspired it lol

Respect