Xbox series vs. PS5 , is PS5 the underdog already? Did the tables turn on PlayStation?

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#1 Nike_Air
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  • 12 > 9 for the hardcore
  • Cheap Lockhart for the casuals
  • Gamepass
  • Microsoft buying liked studios that previously made PlayStation games
  • Halo Infinite at launch
  • Microsoft growing the Halo brand via PC and getting Halo back to relevancy.
  • Microsoft attracting talent from Santa Monica and Naughty Dog. Phil Spencer is playing 4D chess.
  • Jim Ryan is head of PlayStation(and is just a pawn for the new Sony CEO) Yikes.
  • MLB The Show going to Xbox
  • Sony making partnerships with independents that allow their games to go to PC later
  • Nintendo Switch beating up PlayStation in Japan (this will help Xbox against PS overall)
  • Xbox slowly but surely gaining more Japanese support
  • Microsoft looking to buy studios in Poland and Japan , and to make more partnerships with Japanese studios.
  • All Sony has are 3rd person cinematic games and people are growing tired of them lately - Days Gone , Death Stranding.
  • PSVR hasn't taken off , and Sony is still putting some 1st party studio resources behind it
  • Shawn Layden fired , Shu demoted , Atsushi Morita retires , Jim Ryan's pawn Hermen Hulst now in place. Mass confusion. No direction. No real leadership (just the non-Kaz CEO and the board who see consoe gaming as niche are running the show now)

The sky is falling. Cats and Dogs , living together. Mass hysteria.

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This time around. Xbox will easily beat playstation. sony now only focus on third person movie games. atleast microsoft still focus on gamey games.

but deep down we knows the real king is PC gaming. Xbox series x is best alternate if you dont own a gaming PC.

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#3 Random_Matt
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Who cares, PS5 will sell more and the weaker Xbox will recoup the losses from the higher tier version.

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#4 Subspecies
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So...what happens if the PS5 Pro launches alongside the PS5?

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#5 Juub1990
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@ghosts4ever said:

This time around. Xbox will easily beat playstation.

Saving this for later.

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@ghosts4ever:

Yeah pass that shit over dude.

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#7  Edited By Bluestars
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What’s the 1 brain cell,1 system fanboy narrative next gen?

You know how it changed this gen HAH

best write them down now before the goalposts get moved later.

If the ‘tower of power’leaks are true,then it’s 1-0 to Xbox straight away I mean look how it’s got hermits ‘foaming at the gash’

Gamepass with day one exclusives makes it 2-0 over ps now

15 MS studios beating Sony’s means more console exclusives on Xbox 3-0.

Onto Sales,ps will win but Xbox has 100’s of millions of pc gamers on board now so that won’t wash.

Price,depends on Lockhart,Xbox could have the dearest and cheapest next gen console

Xbox wins, next gen HAH

Or get any version of both machines and enjoy both

Fanyboys HAH

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Fucking hell this has cows scared out of their minds lol.

I don't care who sells the most, I just care which makes what I like which is MS with Forza. I have no need for a PSAnything.

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Between both Sony & MS, I'm sure both will be on equal ground in terms of games and brand loyal this time around. Either way, I just want PS5/Xbox do well on launch day.

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#10 xantufrog  Moderator
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I gotta give MS credit, the XseX certainly seems to have riled people up.

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#11 DaVillain-  Moderator
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^Except me. XseX just never click for me. Guess it's something I never care about.

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@bluestars said:

What’s the 1 brain cell,1 system fanboy narrative next gen?

You know how it changed this gen HAH

best write them down now before the goalposts get moved later.

If the ‘tower of power’leaks are true,then it’s 1-0 to Xbox straight away I mean look how it’s got hermits ‘foaming at the gash’

Gamepass with day one exclusives makes it 2-0 over ps now

15 MS studios beating Sony’s means more console exclusives on Xbox 3-0.

Onto Sales,ps will win but Xbox has 100’s of millions of pc gamers on board now so that won’t wash.

Price,depends on Lockhart,Xbox could have the dearest and cheapest next gen console

Xbox wins, next gen HAH

Or get any version of both machines and enjoy both

Fanyboys HAH

Xbox does not do exclusives.

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@xantufrog said:

I gotta give MS credit, the XseX certainly seems to have riled people up.

People are excitable. Especially here.

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I'll give MS credit, they've definitely turned things around for the better, but holy crap dude you need to slow down, because a lot of the crap youre spewing hasn't been proven yet.

1. You have no idea how Herman Hulst is going to perform, going from his track record with Gurrellia and the Decima Engine development I'd say he's qualified.

2. Halo back to relevancy? That hasn't happened yet, and with games like COD and Fortnite Halo is going to have a steep uphill battle. (Not saying Halo will be bad, but getting back on top will be a challenge)

3. MS is moving in the right direction buying studios, but put up or shut up in this regard. I'll wait till I see some games and get results.

4. Every gen I hear "Xbox is going to be better in Japan, Xbox is making friendly with Japanese Devs" Once again put up or shut up. I hear this every gen, and every gen it doesn't happen.

MS has done better since the beginning with X1, and that's great. I think the competition will be much better this gen with closer sales, but stop spewing all this doom and gloom crap. It smells

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@Juub1990 said:
@ghosts4ever said:

This time around. Xbox will easily beat playstation.

Saving this for later.

This will come handy

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#16 Bluestars
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@Random_Matt:

I’ll let you read my comment again, see if you spot the bit where I say console exclusives HAH

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#17 Fedor  Online
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Nintendo has come to claim the bodies of Xbox and PS.

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@Random_Matt said:
@bluestars said:

What’s the 1 brain cell,1 system fanboy narrative next gen?

You know how it changed this gen HAH

best write them down now before the goalposts get moved later.

If the ‘tower of power’leaks are true,then it’s 1-0 to Xbox straight away I mean look how it’s got hermits ‘foaming at the gash’

Gamepass with day one exclusives makes it 2-0 over ps now

15 MS studios beating Sony’s means more console exclusives on Xbox 3-0.

Onto Sales,ps will win but Xbox has 100’s of millions of pc gamers on board now so that won’t wash.

Price,depends on Lockhart,Xbox could have the dearest and cheapest next gen console

Xbox wins, next gen HAH

Or get any version of both machines and enjoy both

Fanyboys HAH

Xbox does not do exclusives.

Microsoft creates game exclusives for MS platforms just as Sony creates game exclusives for PS3, PS4 and PS Vita platforms.

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Bad logic OP
Bad logic OP

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#20 BenjaminBanklin
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Xbox to sell 13 consoles in Japan with the Series X instead of 12. Better kiss your ass goodbye, Sony.

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#21 Kaczmar
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I see very few reasons to purchase an XBOX Series X when all MS first-party titles also are on the PC on day one.

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Microsoft turned things around a while ago but it takes time to fully implement the game plan and the bad news is slowly starting to trickle in. By this time next year it will be a heavy downpour washing away the cow's hopes and dreams.

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@Xplode_games said:

Microsoft turned things around a while ago but it takes time to fully implement the game plan and the bad news is slowly starting to trickle in. By this time next year it will be a heavy downpour washing away the cow's hopes and dreams.

They did?

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I have a feeling Xbox fanboys are going to feel they got kicked in the nuts in a little over a month.

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It's going to be an interesting 2020, that's for sure.

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#26  Edited By GoldenElementXL
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“Lockhart for the casuals”

You’d be surprised who is buying the more expensive consoles vs what the “hardcore” on these forums are buying (if anything)

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#27  Edited By WitIsWisdom  Online
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I'm very excited for both in all honesty. I must say, I wasn't all that impressed with Xbox since the original Xbox, but the last 2 years or so I feel that MS REALLY stepped their game up. The new studios, game pass is without a doubt an incredible value and pretty cool (although I strongly prefer physical media this is a good way to play games that I probably wouldn't have had a chance to play otherwise) and the stability of the Xbox is better than the PS4.

However, I feel that the PS4 has better exclusives (the new studios by Xbox may rival them next gen.. will have to wait and see), a better controller (yes I have big hands, but the analog sticks are WAY better on PS4), a much better friends, sharing, and party system, and a larger pool of games with a little more diversity.

All in all I feel that Xbox without a doubt is finishing the generation stronger and heading into next gen with a great start. I couldn't care less about The Last of Us 2 which in my opinion is PS's last big game.

I actually feel like next gen is going to feel very similar between the two consoles (maybe even more so than this gen), but I think services, value, and games will set them apart once again. MS has a chance to strike big and easily close the gap this generation. That said, I predict that the sales numbers next gen will be a lot closer like the 360 and PS3 were.

I am actually disappointed with SONY. It's like they got a large lead and just said "screw it, we are the winners, so we are done" this gen, and they seemed to have really stopped pushing for innovation and trying to widen the gap by going out of their way for their user base. That doesn't sit well with me. Close competition forces opposing companies to strive for excellence. It is in ALL of our best interests that both come out the gates swinging hard and trying to outdo the other.

Things I want to see from PS5.

1. Fear MS and prove you will bring the heat next gen.

2. Come out with more MP games and prove you are pushing stronger on that side of things. (SOCOM I'm looking at you)

3. Value.. bring more of it. Open up more games.

4. Add a preview program and possibly something like game pass.

Things I want to see from XSX

1. Come out of the gates like you have something to prove. You need to be all in this time.

2. Continue game pass and the preview program and expand on them.

3. More exclusives and mid tier range games.

4. Improve sharing, integration, user interfaces, and option accessibility.

As we stand right now, I never thought I would say this, but I am actually feeling Xbox more at this point in time. I feel of the two that SONY has more to prove next gen. I hope they BOTH understand this and come out dropping bombs. The more they fight the more we win. Everyone wanting all this integration and for them to get into bed together just don't get it... I mean I'm all for crossplay (with restrictions or options in place) but as far as rival companies.. well, I feel strongly toward the fact that they would both do well to remember that and keep tabs against each other. It almost seems as though SONY is letting their guard down and MS is falsely snuggling up to them. Don't think for a second that MS would hesitate to drop the guillotine once SONY is positioned directly underneath the blade, they made their way as a company doing that. SONY needs to pretend to trust them, but keep within reality. Hopefully BOTH are doing just that and we are in for a hell of a ride. They both need to hold their cards close and believe the other has them beat or has another card up their sleeve. That way they BOTH come out over prepared for a change. I guess time will tell, but I think this will be the strongest start to a gen of all time. I'm hoping all those new studios MS bought have SONY scared, so SONY is stepping up production as well. Perhaps that is just anticipation and hope, but I get the feeling that they are both going for the throat this time around, more so than ever before.

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They've stepped up their game in the best ways. Next gen will be much more exciting than this one.

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I believe that with Microsoft not fucking things up from the start this time, every console gamer will benefit from better competition.

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#30 MclarenMaster18
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I guess Xbox Series X will be more powerful than PS5 but definitely both will be more powerful than Nintendo Switch.

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I gotta say except maybe the power issue( still unconfirmed) the definitive edge MS have over Sony is definitely game pass! That shit is such great value currently ( have it on pc) and with all the studios ms keeps buying the Xbox should crush Sony in that regard and might make up for their lack of exclusive, as every cow apparently have a high end pc in these threads...

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Good luck xbox. I know I will be buying PS5 first but its nice seeing competition, this just means Sony will panic and starts cashing money on more exclusives and the salt from xbox users then will be gold.

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#33 kuu2
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Sony having the power edge was so short lived I can hardly remember it. Microsoft got away from what made them great. Better multiplats and a superior online experience. All of this has been rectified and next gen will be a real fight for all involved. Excluding Nintendo of course which is a handheld only gaming company now.

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#34  Edited By I_P_Daily
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@r-gamer said:

I have a feeling Xbox fanboys are going to feel they got kicked in the nuts in a little over a month.

Why's that quack???

@davillain- said:

^Except me. XseX just never click for me. Guess it's something I never care about.

Funny its something you don't care about and yet you post in these Xbox threads ALL THE TIME about how you don't care about it lol.

Keep saying it and one day far into the future you might just believe it because no one else does.

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#35 DaVillain-  Moderator
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@i_p_daily: That's not what I meant and you know it.

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@davillain- said:

@i_p_daily: That's not what I meant and you know it.

Please explain.

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@kuu2 said:

Sony having the power edge was so short lived I can hardly remember it. Microsoft got away from what made them great. Better multiplats and a superior online experience. All of this has been rectified and next gen will be a real fight for all involved. Excluding Nintendo of course which is a handheld only gaming company now.

You can't hardly remember it because you were on the losing end crying about how 900p and 720p was great.

Superior online experiece..Hahahahaaaaa

Well at least this new gen PSN will run on azure servers so if you lemmings claim it sucks yeah you know why it does..

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#38 Archangel3371
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It sounds like Microsoft is really coming out strong next gen. I like it. 👍

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@i_p_daily said:
@davillain- said:

@i_p_daily: That's not what I meant and you know it.

Please explain.

I'm not obligated to explain it to you.

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#40 kuu2
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@tormentos said:
@kuu2 said:

Sony having the power edge was so short lived I can hardly remember it. Microsoft got away from what made them great. Better multiplats and a superior online experience. All of this has been rectified and next gen will be a real fight for all involved. Excluding Nintendo of course which is a handheld only gaming company now.

You can't hardly remember it because you were on the losing end crying about how 900p and 720p was great.

Superior online experiece..Hahahahaaaaa

Well at least this new gen PSN will run on azure servers so if you lemmings claim it sucks yeah you know why it does..

Totally short lived. The One X came in and just smashed your DF hopes and dreams. It was so delicious.

Yes superior, hence why the switch to Azure.

Tormy will you actually get a next gen console or just come in here to tell us how great Sony is?

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#41 Arkhalipso
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I like the fact that those who are considered the dumbest members of the forum all think Xbox will beat PS next gen. Not saying it won't happen, it's just an observation.

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#42 sovkhan
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Power was never the main force pushing the console brands, it's a proven fact.

History is full of less successful powerful hardware.

On the other side games are what make people buy these items!!!

Ms went the no exclusives route, will that help them regain some ground???

I am not so sure about that but time will tell if I guessed right.

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#43 Pedro
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@sovkhan said:

Power was never the main force pushing the console brands, it's a proven fact.

History is full of less successful powerful hardware.

On the other side games are what make people buy these items!!!

Ms went the no exclusives route, will that help them regain some ground???

I am not so sure about that but time will tell if I guessed right.

This was proven to be false with the PS4. The PS4 was the most powerful system and successful despite games availability in the first 2-3 years.

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#44 shellcase86
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@Star67 said:

I'll give MS credit, they've definitely turned things around for the better, but holy crap dude you need to slow down, because a lot of the crap youre spewing hasn't been proven yet.

1. You have no idea how Herman Hulst is going to perform, going from his track record with Gurrellia and the Decima Engine development I'd say he's qualified.

2. Halo back to relevancy? That hasn't happened yet, and with games like COD and Fortnite Halo is going to have a steep uphill battle. (Not saying Halo will be bad, but getting back on top will be a challenge)

3. MS is moving in the right direction buying studios, but put up or shut up in this regard. I'll wait till I see some games and get results.

4. Every gen I hear "Xbox is going to be better in Japan, Xbox is making friendly with Japanese Devs" Once again put up or shut up. I hear this every gen, and every gen it doesn't happen.

MS has done better since the beginning with X1, and that's great. I think the competition will be much better this gen with closer sales, but stop spewing all this doom and gloom crap. It smells

Pretty much this.