Xbox Series S is able to do 900p in Control, no Ray Tracing

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#1  Edited By R4gn4r0k  Online
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What is ‘next gen’ about Control Ultimate Edition on PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X|S?

  • Performance Mode – Targets 60fps performance with 1440p render resolution and 4K output
  • Graphics Mode – Targets 30fps performance with ray tracing (transparency and reflections) at 1440p render resolution and 4K output
    • NOTE: Only the Performance mode is available on Xbox Series S. It is targeting 60fps with no ray tracing, at 900p render resolution, and 1080p output. This is a limitation of the hardware, not the game.
  • PS5 DualSense Support – Support for vibrations and triggers.
  • PS5 Activities and Help – Cards and videos that help guide you through the game, and keep track of your progress.

Are you ready for next gen?

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:P

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#3 DrSerigala
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New console already at level 900p and 1200p. LOL

It is really 2060S equivalent

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@SecretPolice said:

:P

Xbox Series S is able to run a last gen game at 900p/60 with no ray tracing.

At least the Xbox One S All Digital had a funny nickname, the Xbox SAD.

But what do we call the Xbox Series S? Super underwhelming? :p

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@R4gn4r0k said:
@SecretPolice said:

:P

Xbox Series S is able to run a last gen game at 900p/60 with no ray tracing.

At least the Xbox One S All Digital had a funny nickname, the Xbox SAD.

But what do we call the Xbox Series S? Super underwhelming? :p

What else can you get for £300 that will match what the XSS can do.

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What else can you get for £300 that will match what the XSS can do.

The switch can play control through streaming right?

I dunno, I wouldn't spend 300 euro on a console with an underwhelming, last gen experience.

Just because you can do something, doesn't mean it's a good idea to do it.

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@R4gn4r0k said:
@gym_lion said:

What else can you get for £300 that will match what the XSS can do.

The switch can play control through streaming right?

I dunno, I wouldn't spend 300 euro on a console with an underwhelming, last gen experience.

Just because you can do something, doesn't mean it's a good idea to do it.

I doubt the XSS is aimed at you though.

Just because you can buy something it doesn't mean it's aimed at you.

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These consoles weren’t ready for raytracing. Well, neither was AMD for that matter. I played some of the cloud version on Switch and was shocked at how well it ran.

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Eh, I'm still sporting mah Mighty X1X MonsterBox so I'm good. :P

I figure holidays 2021 will be just the right time to go full, SuperMighty XSX MonsterBox, Halo: Infinite, bunduru at about 4 bills and I'll be dancing. lol :P

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I doubt the XSS is aimed at you though.

Just because you can buy something it doesn't mean it's aimed at you.

I was led to believe that XSS was aimed at people who want a next gen experience?

"Xbox Series S, the smallest, sleekest Xbox ever, stores your games, saves and backups safe in the cloud. Experience next-gen speed, 1440p at 60 frames per second"

As per Microsoft official store.

Where's the next gen?

Where's the 1440p at 60fps?

Control is a last gen game after all, not even current gen...

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These consoles weren’t ready for raytracing. Well, neither was AMD for that matter. I played some of the cloud version on Switch and was shocked at how well it ran.

Yeah I'm sure Raytracing will play only a tiny part next gen.

Switch version comes with a free trial, right?

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"This is a limitation of the hardware, not the game."

Yeah, no shit.

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@SecretPolice said:

@R4gn4r0k:

Eh, I'm still sporting mah Mighty X1X MonsterBox so I'm good. :P

I figure holidays 2021 will be just the right time to go full, SuperMighty XSX MonsterBox, Halo: Infinite, bunduru at about 4 bills and I'll be dancing. lol :P

man, I hope your Supermighty Monsterbox 8K 120fps edition comes in time for when Everwild drops :D

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@R4gn4r0k said:
@gym_lion said:

I doubt the XSS is aimed at you though.

Just because you can buy something it doesn't mean it's aimed at you.

I was led to believe that XSS was aimed at people who want a next gen experience?

"Xbox Series S, the smallest, sleekest Xbox ever, stores your games, saves and backups safe in the cloud. Experience next-gen speed, 1440p at 60 frames per second"

As per Microsoft official store.

Where's the next gen?

Where's the 1440p at 60fps?

Control is a last gen game after all, not even current gen...

Can a PS4 or X1 run at as well as the XSS?

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@R4gn4r0k said:
@SecretPolice said:

@R4gn4r0k:

Eh, I'm still sporting mah Mighty X1X MonsterBox so I'm good. :P

I figure holidays 2021 will be just the right time to go full, SuperMighty XSX MonsterBox, Halo: Infinite, bunduru at about 4 bills and I'll be dancing. lol :P

man, I hope your Supermighty Monsterbox 8K 120fps edition comes in time for when Everwild drops :D

Oh man, quit teasing me...

lol :P

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Control had lots of issues on the previous gen, if the XSS is able to run it at (close to locked) 60 FPS that is a big improvement.

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Can a PS4 or X1 run at as well as the XSS?

Good point. So you also feel that XSS should be advertised as:

"Slightly better than PS4 or X1"

Instead of competing with proper next gen hardware?

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#18  Edited By Gym_Lion
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@R4gn4r0k said:
@gym_lion said:

Can a PS4 or X1 run at as well as the XSS?

Good point. So you also feel that XSS should be advertised as:

"Slightly better than PS4 or X1"

Instead of competing with proper next gen hardware?

Yeah probably.

Although as someone that owns one it's not slightly better it's loads better.

I agree MS shouldn't hype it up as much as they do. But for £300 you can't get anything as good.

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Seeing below 1440p annoys me.

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@gym_lion said:

Yeah probably.

Although as someone that owns one it's not slightly better it's loads better.

I'm sure, having it run games at 60fps is nice. If you have a 1080p TV than sure, a XSS is nice.

However, I saw games on PS4 and PS4 pro running at 1080/60 so that makes it less of a feat to me :P

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@R4gn4r0k said:
@gym_lion said:

Yeah probably.

Although as someone that owns one it's not slightly better it's loads better.

I'm sure, having it run games at 60fps is nice. If you have a 1080p TV than sure, a XSS is nice.

However, I saw games on PS4 and PS4 pro running at 1080/60 so that makes it less of a feat to me :P

Good for you mate.

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#22  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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Getting an Xbox Series S is such a waste lol. You might as well save some more money and get a PS5 or XSX and get your money's worth.

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Getting an Xbox Series S is such a waste lol. You might as well save some more money and get a PS5 or XSX and get your money's worth.

But that logic you may as well save the money and get a shit hot PC.

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To be honest, Control was having framerate drops on Xbox One/PS4 but nowhere near as bad as CP2077. But at the same time, seeing XSS running Control in 900p/60fps is actually a good thing and I always value better framerates to better graphics myself. To the average console gamer, they wouldn't care for better performance but I do. Do you really need RT on console over better framerates? That depends on you but nevertheless, if I can get my games to run 60fps and I can only get it in 900p, then so beat it. XSS for the price its going and 60fps without the eye-candy features is a winner in my books.

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@davillain- said:

To be honest, Control was having framerate drops on Xbox One/PS4 but nowhere near as bad as CP2077. But at the same time, seeing XSS running Control in 900p/60fps is actually a good thing and I always value better framerates to better graphics myself. To the average console gamer, they wouldn't care for better performance but I do. Do you really need RT on console over better framerates? That depends on you but nevertheless, if I can get my games to run 60fps and I can only get it in 900p, then so beat it. XSS for the price its going and 60fps without the eye-candy features is a winner in my books.

Well if consoles had Nvidia tech instead they could have RT and 60fps :P

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#26  Edited By deactivated-60bf765068a74
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I thought last console generation we were already at 1080p. What is happening? Is this next gen or not?

I'm on PC so I mean im at 3440x1440p ultrawide res you guys I dunno where you consoles are going but your headed in the wrong direction good luck to you.

What happened to that Tobey Maguire glasses signature where he puts on the glasses and the screen gets all blurry. We need that guy back on system wars.

Resolution > High Detail > Frames > everything else

get back to work phil spencer

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hello,every pc gamers need rtx 3090

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It is a shame MS waited until now to reveal the specs for the Series S. 😉

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@R4gn4r0k: Would love to see Nvidia go back working with consoles. To bad Nvidia left with disappointments after MS Xbox and don't see them working with consoles again...besides Nintendo with the Switch I supposed.

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1440p is more than enough for my 9th gen games, assuming they run at 60fps, of course. 900p and/or 30fps is not acceptable.

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Yep, get ready for mid gen upgrades.

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@gym_lion said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

Getting an Xbox Series S is such a waste lol. You might as well save some more money and get a PS5 or XSX and get your money's worth.

But that logic you may as well save the money and get a shit hot PC.

A PS5 all digital is only $100 more. A XSX is $200 more, but you at least you don't have buy digital And for that money, you get a significantly better console. As for PC, go ahead and spend your money as you wish lol.

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@davillain-: From what I understand, Nvidia just comes in too expensive every time the bidding process starts. But really, why would Nvidia budge? They have a huge market share in the GPU market, gaming and beyond. Then there’s the Switch. Their margins must be excellent there. AMD NEEDS the console contracts. They would be in a really bad spot otherwise. Especially before Ryzen

Console gamers and devs would greatly benefit from Nvidia hardware. I’m just not sure we’ll see it in a Xbox or PlayStation every again.

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bear in mind rtx 3090 CANT hit 4k 60fps without DLSS on

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@SolidGame_basic said:
@gym_lion said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

Getting an Xbox Series S is such a waste lol. You might as well save some more money and get a PS5 or XSX and get your money's worth.

But that logic you may as well save the money and get a shit hot PC.

A PS5 all digital is only $100 more. A XSX is $200 more, but you at least you don't have buy digital And for that money, you get a significantly better console. As for PC, go ahead and spend your money as you wish lol.

I don't have to buy digital anyway I have gamepass. The XSS is for my 9 year old daughter a PS5 or XSX would be wasted on her.

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@SecretPolice said:

@R4gn4r0k:

Eh, I'm still sporting mah Mighty X1X MonsterBox so I'm good. :P

I figure holidays 2021 will be just the right time to go full, SuperMighty XSX MonsterBox, Halo: Infinite, bunduru at about 4 bills and I'll be dancing. lol :P

You should still look after your baby brother X-Series S

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@ProtossRushX: lol

Well, even both the S and X combined is still tiny compared to the WeakSauce TumorStation...

:P

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900 p?? W t f is going on here. I

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Its funny how RT was hyped as the next big thing, but no games support it in 60fps. Outside of taking screen shots, i don't see myself playing a single game across this whole generation in 30fps with rt. Sad.

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@davillain- said:

@R4gn4r0k: Would love to see Nvidia go back working with consoles. To bad Nvidia left with disappointments after MS Xbox and don't see them working with consoles again...besides Nintendo with the Switch I supposed.

Oh ok, I thought Nvidia would make SOCs again like AMD does for consoles, with them buying ARM.

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@hardwenzen said:

Its funny how RT was hyped as the next big thing, but no games support it in 60fps. Outside of taking screen shots, i don't see myself playing a single game across this whole generation in 30fps with rt. Sad.

I mean the positive thing about this next gen is that they allow players to choose for 60fps performance modes for the first time.

I hope this feature stays because I will always pick 60fps mode over more eye candy or higher resolutions.

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@R4gn4r0k said:
@SecretPolice said:

:P

Xbox Series S is able to run a last gen game at 900p/60 with no ray tracing.

At least the Xbox One S All Digital had a funny nickname, the Xbox SAD.

But what do we call the Xbox Series S? Super underwhelming? :p

Shocker, entry level GPU not as powerful as mainstream level GPU. Tell us more tech guy.

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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@R4gn4r0k said:
@SecretPolice said:

:P

Xbox Series S is able to run a last gen game at 900p/60 with no ray tracing.

At least the Xbox One S All Digital had a funny nickname, the Xbox SAD.

But what do we call the Xbox Series S? Super underwhelming? :p

Shocker, entry level GPU not as powerful as mainstream level GPU. Tell us more tech guy.

Now look, he's a Nintendont guy sporting that Mighty Bait & Switch. He's bad to the bone baby!! lolol :P

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Xbox one X 1440p. Beats all these shit consoles.

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@R4gn4r0k said:
@hardwenzen said:

Its funny how RT was hyped as the next big thing, but no games support it in 60fps. Outside of taking screen shots, i don't see myself playing a single game across this whole generation in 30fps with rt. Sad.

I mean the positive thing about this next gen is that they allow players to choose for 60fps performance modes for the first time.

I hope this feature stays because I will always pick 60fps mode over more eye candy or higher resolutions.

That's the best thing about current gen, yes. Its just not enough. You have 8k on the box while games are already running below 1440p, and its been two months, not to mention that this is a reasonably old last gen game. Its looking real bad for the future. I am sure that developers like ND will deliver visuals that will trigger hermits, but it will run in 30fps.

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@davillain- said:

@R4gn4r0k: Would love to see Nvidia go back working with consoles. To bad Nvidia left with disappointments after MS Xbox and don't see them working with consoles again...besides Nintendo with the Switch I supposed.

Or the PS3? :-S

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Control on consoles...

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Control on consoles...

Hey man you wanted 60fps on consoles, you got it :P

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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@R4gn4r0k said:
@SecretPolice said:

:P

Xbox Series S is able to run a last gen game at 900p/60 with no ray tracing.

At least the Xbox One S All Digital had a funny nickname, the Xbox SAD.

But what do we call the Xbox Series S? Super underwhelming? :p

Shocker, entry level GPU not as powerful as mainstream level GPU. Tell us more tech guy.

Pre launch hype:

"Xbox Series S is able to do 1440p at 60fps"

"Xbox Series S will do Ray tracing"

Last gen game arrives:

"900p at 60fps with no ray tracing"

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#50  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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@R4gn4r0k said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@R4gn4r0k said:
@SecretPolice said:

:P

Xbox Series S is able to run a last gen game at 900p/60 with no ray tracing.

At least the Xbox One S All Digital had a funny nickname, the Xbox SAD.

But what do we call the Xbox Series S? Super underwhelming? :p

Shocker, entry level GPU not as powerful as mainstream level GPU. Tell us more tech guy.

Pre launch hype:

"Xbox Series S is able to do 1440p at 60fps"

"Xbox Series S will do Ray tracing"

Last gen game arrives:

"900p at 60fps with no ray tracing"

It can do RT, not very well. Neither can the Series X and PS5. AMDs RDNA 2 isn't good at the job. When it comes to RT, RDNA 2 is like the RTX 2000 series cards. You can do it, but it's not a good f**kin idea.

So what, the Series X and PS5 can do RT on a last gen game? What about a true current gen game when they come?

And at the end of the day, the Series S is a cheap console aimed at those who can't afford or are unwilling to pay for the other two consoles. It's officially sold at around the same price or cheaper than the Xbox One S and PS4. And anyone who has chosen it, isn't expecting UHD or RT or will care about them.

So what about this are you mad about?