Xbox’s E3 to Focus on Hardcore Gamers

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#1 Posted by FreedomFreeLife (3948 posts) -

Xbox’s E3 to Focus on Hardcore Gamers, Some News Coming in May; No Portable Xbox Coming and More

  • Spencer doesn’t think Microsoft will introduce a dedicated handheld gaming device. Instead they’ll work on Windows Phone and tablets, maybe with controller support some day.
  • Spencer wants to make E3′s show more focused on the fans and he’s looking for ideas to make them feel like the conference is for them even if they aren’t in Los Angeles.
  • The main focus will be on hardcore gamers.
  • There was an idea to make Cortana the voice of the show, but Spencer didn’t like it. He likes the Windows Phone feature but doesn’t want to overdo it.
  • Fans won’t have to wait for Tokyo Game Show to see Japanese Xbox games (possibly meaning that we’ll see them at E3).
  • This year Microsoft will show “stuff we are committed to, from top studios, for this year and future.”
  • We’ll get a “couple of things” announced before E3. May “Should be a good month for news.” It took Spencer a month to get the plans set.
  • Spencer has strict orders not to talk “about anything related to a 343i IP” before E3.
  • Both new IP and sequels will be announced at this year’s show.

Phil Spencer wants timed demos and more demos on Xbox One

  • http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/05/05/phil-spencer-wants-xboxs-e3-to-be-focused-on-hardcore-gamers-no-portable-xbox-coming-and-more/

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#2 Posted by FreedomFreeLife (3948 posts) -

Also Spancer dosent want Microsoft to come on stage and talk about Window Phone, tablets and other stuff like that. Spancer says he wants to make all about games, games and only games.

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#3 Edited by CrownKingArthur (5262 posts) -

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#4 Posted by R3FURBISHED (12400 posts) -

Phil Spencer is the perfect fit for Xbox head.

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#5 Posted by nintendoboy16 (34363 posts) -

Strong words. Will they keep them?

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#7 Posted by _Matt_ (10446 posts) -

This is gonna be a sweeeeet e3 :D

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#8 Edited by FreedomFreeLife (3948 posts) -

@nintendoboy16 said:

Strong words. Will they keep them?

I hope so. I mean he also tweet people and talk with people. He says that community and feedback is important for him.

Also looks like Spencer wants 1 thing but Microsoft will force to put some Window, Tablet and Phone stuff at stage. I still think Phil Spencer is best choice for Xbox.

@Desmonic said:

Sounds good. It seems all big 3 will have a very strong E3 (in terms of software) even if only half the rumours/hints come true.

Can't wait! :)

Nintendo won´t have E3.

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#9 Edited by Epic-gamerz (222 posts) -

Thank you for the Hope M$... Can't wait for DX12 to destroy the PS4

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#10 Edited by MirkoS77 (12906 posts) -

If only they'd announce a Kinnectless SKU.

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#11 Edited by BattleSpectre (7989 posts) -

@CrownKingArthur said:

Hahaha love it. I didn't know Britney Spears could dance that well.

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#12 Posted by blamix (445 posts) -

Good, just like sony and nintendo

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#13 Edited by R3FURBISHED (12400 posts) -

@BattleSpectre said:

@CrownKingArthur said:

Hahaha love it. I didn't know Britney Spears could dance that well.

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#14 Posted by Crypt_mx (4739 posts) -

@MirkoS77 said:

If only they'd announce a Kinnectless SKU.

When are people going to realize tat this is never going to happen, it gets posted in system wars probably 50 times a week. If you don't like Kinect and don't want to pay for it, you can wait until it's cheaper OR not buy an X1 at any point at all. MS is committed to the Kinect support, which is pretty much improved every update.

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#15 Edited by STEAMSBL0WSSAX (80 posts) -

too bad the hardware doesnt

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#16 Posted by FreedomFreeLife (3948 posts) -

@MirkoS77 said:

If only they'd announce a Kinnectless SKU.

Kinectless SKU is same as Xbox One without blu-ray.

Kinect is part of Xbox One. Microsoft said no matter what, they never remove Kinect from Xbox One

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#17 Posted by freedomfreak (50193 posts) -

I sure hope so. It seems like all three really want to deliver at E3 this year.

Fine by me.

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#19 Edited by FreedomFreeLife (3948 posts) -

@Desmonic said:

@FreedomFreeLife:

They won't a press conference, but they'll still announce games. And honestly a proper Zelda + Metroid would be killer (despite the WiiU's sales failure). Add that to MK8 and SSB4 (plus Mario 3D World, Pikimn 3, Bayonetta 2 and Poject X) and you have an absurdly compelling companion console to go along with your X1, PS4 or PC.

No press conference = Less info.

People want press conference. Last year it was so confusing and 90% people picked Microsoft E3 over Nintendo E3 2013. Just giving random gameplay videos and news all over the internet at same time is confusing and bad. Looks like Nintendo dosent learn.

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#20 Edited by MlauTheDaft (5189 posts) -

Let's hope they don't bring Cirque Du Soleil again, because that's what they usually mean when they say "all about the games".

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#21 Posted by misterpmedia (6209 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Also Spancer dosent want Microsoft to come on stage and talk about Window Phone, tablets and other stuff like that. Spancer says he wants to make all about games, games and only games.

spancer

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#22 Posted by LJS9502_basic (163066 posts) -

Well.....the hardcore MS gamer already picked up their X1....so nothing there with do much to increase sales.

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#23 Posted by FoxbatAlpha (10669 posts) -

Getting a big bucket of pop corn for this E3. I can't wait!!

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#24 Edited by Gue1 (12171 posts) -

they are desperate i see but it's over for them.

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#25 Posted by HitmanActual (931 posts) -

Xboner to focus on hardcore gamers at E3...in that case there is not going to be much for the TC this year.

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#26 Posted by TheTruthIsREAL (809 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife said:

No press conference = Less info.

People want press conference. Last year it was so confusing and 90% people picked Microsoft E3 over Nintendo E3 2013. Just giving random gameplay videos and news all over the internet at same time is confusing and bad. Looks like Nintendo dosent learn.

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Kinectless SKU is same as Xbox One without blu-ray.

Kinect is part of Xbox One. Microsoft said no matter what, they never remove Kinect from Xbox One

What..? And Microsoft also said they can't switch off their intruding DRM but hey!

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#27 Posted by RR360DD (13823 posts) -

Great news. MS won last E3 in games, so this time will be even better.

Hopefully cows get at least one non-indie game announcement so its not too lop-sided LOL

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#28 Edited by PinkieWinkie (1454 posts) -

@RR360DD: I stopped reading after MS won last years E3.

How does it feel that you have to troll to say something positive about the XBone?

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#29 Edited by tymeservesfate (2230 posts) -
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#30 Posted by Heil68 (57942 posts) -

Stark contrast from the xbox's dark day post 2009, when MS decided to drop core and go upwards of 65% casual to chase theWii's pot of gold with Kinect(lol).

Let's hope they learned their lesson that Kinect(lol) is the biggest joke in console gaming history and best to leave it for media navigation if anything at all.

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#31 Posted by The_Last_Ride (76371 posts) -

@steamsbl0wssax said:

too bad the hardware doesnt

this /thread

I will believe it when i see it

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#32 Posted by Lulu_Lulu (19564 posts) -

I wonder if the Xbox One will adopt its Big Brother's Legacy of Being the console most popular for shooting games.

Thats not the type of Hardcore I want. Show me some action.

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#33 Edited by DJ-Lafleur (35549 posts) -

Well, Microsoft didn't really lie when they said their last E3 would focus on games (their last E3 did have alot of games, albeit many of which didn't really excite mee that much). I'm interested to see if they manage to follow through with their words again.

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#34 Edited by Lulu_Lulu (19564 posts) -

@steamsbl0wssax

@The_Last_Ride

Whoa hang on, thats not fair ! The Wii U is much weaker and gimmicky but its super Hardcore ! :)

right ?

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#35 Edited by intotheminx (2590 posts) -

If they released a Xbone without the kinect I would be all over it, such a shame they alienated so many people. oh well.

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#36 Posted by tormentos (26717 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@MirkoS77 said:

If only they'd announce a Kinnectless SKU.

Kinectless SKU is same as Xbox One without blu-ray.

Kinect is part of Xbox One. Microsoft said no matter what, they never remove Kinect from Xbox One

Yeah that was a long time ago and they also say that DRM could not be turn off like a switch,and we all know the rest of the story almost 3 million units behind sony is reason enough to kill it and lower the price of the unit to $399.

@RR360DD said:

Great news. MS won last E3 in games, so this time will be even better.

Hopefully cows get at least one non-indie game announcement so its not too lop-sided LOL

Yeah they won so much.. Titanfall is the biggest game ever... Fast forward to April who care about Titanfall..lol

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#37 Edited by RR360DD (13823 posts) -

@PinkieWinkie: "I stopped reading after MS won last years E3."

Well that was a pretty stupid thing to do. If you had've continued reading you'd have seen I said they won in games.

I won't deny the media shitstorm Sony cooked up allowing used games and all that crap. Too bad they only announced The Order though. One game announcement. Pathetic LOL

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#38 Edited by D4RKL1NG (278 posts) -

'Hardcore' - Not sure ol' Philly or MS knows what that word means anymore

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#39 Edited by shawn30 (4409 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@MirkoS77 said:

If only they'd announce a Kinnectless SKU.

Kinectless SKU is same as Xbox One without blu-ray.

Kinect is part of Xbox One. Microsoft said no matter what, they never remove Kinect from Xbox One

I stand by the notion that a price drop with Kinect is far better long-term than a price drop while losing Kinect. I see the potential and I think it'll be the indie devs that game-wise bring it out. App wise there's great potential as well. But a number of potential buyers don't want to pay for Kinect and see no use for it or promise of that changing, and I do understand that. They can buy a cheaper One, sell Kinect, use that money for a game or maybe keep it in the closet until something catches their eye. This is one of those cases where early losses can be made up since we are barely 5 months into the gen. MS needs the One in at $350-$399 with Kinect still in that box. Once you drop it out of the box all possibility of devs making use of it flees as they will worry not as many will have the device. Again, those who have no interest in Kinect but want a Xbox One need not ever install the thing. But it should be there so MS can try and change their minds.

Back on topic, Love the all games focus, but am hoping for a smaller side show where we get tons of new apps, TV stuff, Xbox Fitness updates, Kinect-centric apps. Need not be E3 stage at all, but maybe a 30 minute thing. We shall see.

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#40 Edited by santoron (8583 posts) -

I think it should be obvious by now MS understands how badly hey screwed the XBone reveal a year ago, and Spencer's biggest job right now is just getting people talking about games again. If he can't move gamers beyond the weaker hardware, the mandatory Kinect so few want, the TV TV TV, the price, ect. then It's only going to get worse for Xbox going forward.

So they'll push games hard this year at E3. Only thing to wonder is how their pipeline compares to Sony? If MS puts together a comparable show to Sony - even gets close - then MS "wins" E3, because expectations for them are so low.

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#41 Posted by Wasdie (53500 posts) -

I'm hoping that a lot of these new games are good and the Xbox One gets a price drop before holiday of this year. I want to pick one up but I need more reason than just Halo 5 to justify. A $399 price tag would be much more desirable as well as a bunch of good games.

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#42 Posted by Stevo_the_gamer (44885 posts) -

So it won't be any different from last year's E3?

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#43 Edited by The_Last_Ride (76371 posts) -

@Lulu_Lulu said:

@steamsbl0wssax

@The_Last_Ride

Whoa hang on, thats not fair ! The Wii U is much weaker and gimmicky but its super Hardcore ! :)

right ?

Super Mario isn't multiplat

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#44 Edited by B4X (5660 posts) -

Microsoft backed into a corner.

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#45 Posted by Puggy301 (195 posts) -

If they really cared about hardcore gamers they'd offer a bundle that doesn't include Kinect. With Kinect optional, M$ could either drop the price of the Xbone by $100, or leave the price as is and bundle a free one year subscription to Xbox live plus a couple of games. That would definitely suffice in attracting a lot of hardcore gamers, including me.

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#46 Posted by vickissv2 (1951 posts) -

All I know is that E3 needs to be focused on 1080p/ 60FPS if they want to get people's attention.

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#47 Edited by B4X (5660 posts) -

@Puggy301:

They don't need to drop Kinect. They need to eat the 100 dollar loss and sell it for $399. Dropping the Kinect and charging $399, when going against a console that is more powerful is not a price drop? They must keep the value in the package.

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#48 Edited by coasterguy65 (7133 posts) -

We'll see I guess. MS had the better games at last years E3. They just made the mistake of going before Sony, and announcing all their DRM stupidity first.That pretty much killed everything else for them.

Anyway I'm hoping to see some good games announced from all three of the big three. Also hoping Sony announces some new games instead of announcing them all before E3 and just rehashing them again at their conference. Also hoping MS will announce a Kinect-less XBone SKU.

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#49 Edited by Puggy301 (195 posts) -

@b4x said:

@Puggy301:

They don't need to drop Kinect. They need to eat the 100 dollar loss and sell it for $399. Dropping the Kinect and charging $399 going against a console that is more powerful. Is not a price drop? They must keep the value in the package.

I respectfully disagree. Remember, we're talking about M$ appealing to hardcore gamers here, and hardcore gamers have no use for Kinect. I don't want one, and none of my friends who owned a 360 have bought one primarily because of Kinect and Xbone's subpar specs. M$ is losing this gen so far because they have alienated hardcore gamers, which is why Spencer is now attempting to refocus M$' efforts on winning them back.

Try to employ some logic here. Why do you think the 360 was such a resounding success? Was it because the 360 acted as some kind of half-assed, jack-of-all-trades, swiss-army-knife TV hub, appealing to soccer moms and Nintendo kiddies, or because of its appeal to hardcore gamers? Which group do you think bought more 360's and made it the best selling console for much of the 7th gen? The same formula will work for the Xbone as well. Again, if M$ is really serious about winning back hardcore gamers they'll stop dicking around and offer hardcore gamers what they really want without gimmicks.

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#50 Posted by misterpmedia (6209 posts) -

@hitmanactual said:

Xboner to focus on hardcore gamers at E3...in that case there is not going to be much for the TC this year.

lol subtlezing