Xbox One X's Project Cars 2 running 4K (update)

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#1  Edited By ronvalencia
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https://www.gamersnet.nl/nieuws/201706/project_cars_2_belooft_native_4k_op_xbox_one_x_playstation_4_pro_nog_onzeker/

Yes, Project CARS 2 wil run 4K/60 natively on Xbox One X. [...] We are not ready to define the exact resolution on PlayStation 4 Pro yet.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/project-cars-2-general-discussion-thread-coming-september-22nd-2017.342814/page-155#post-11859876

Yup, this was a misquote. We're running sub 60 FPS at 4K and we'll probably always be unless we drop livetrack and a host of other things... We'll probably upscale from something very reasonable

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/project-cars-2-general-discussion-thread-coming-september-22nd-2017.342814/page-155#post-11859906

We don't like the term 'locked'. It would put us in first party territory where chest beating is more important than a great experience. We'll be 60 most of the time in normal racing and we'll push the consoles to and beyond their limits for more interesting racing. Even if that means dropping a few frames.

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#2 SecretPolice
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Mighty fine, Mighty fine indeed but for me, FM7 is the racer I'll be going with.

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#3 lrdfancypants
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Charts would be immensely helpful

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#4 SecretPolice
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@lrdfancypants said:

Charts would be immensely helpful

Why I ought tah...

lol :P

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#5  Edited By ronvalencia
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@lrdfancypants said:

Charts would be immensely helpful

Project Cars smashed into AMD GPU's weaknesses e.g. draw calls bottleneck, Pixel Engine to memory controller bottleneck, 4GB memory storage bottleneck and 'etc'.

Project Cars is a NVIDIA Gameworks title..

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#6 kuu2
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Wow!!!!!!!!

Another 3rd party game that is coming in at 4k/60fps. Not only that but the One X has comparable performance to the 1070 again.

I hear a stampede of angry Hermits and Cows coming.

The One X is a beast!

The console has not even launched yet and we are getting this kind of news and performance.

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@SecretPolice: :p

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#8 lrdfancypants
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@kuu2:

It's a powerful console for sure.

I want to see what red dead looks like

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#9  Edited By Alucard_Prime
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Cool, I doubt Ill have time to play it much considering Forza is there, bought the first game on sale and haven't played it yet. Would like to though it one afternoon at least play it see what it brings to the table, I've read its a solid series .

Hopefully it supports HDR, I love that in FH3 it makes all the colors pop out more and little details are more visible. Glad at least FM7 supports HDR too

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@ronvalencia: LOL just last week PS4 Pro fan boys were saying running Forza 7 at 4K 60fps was nothing special since the game looks like a 360 title. A few said if you wanted to show off the power use Project Cars. Now this news drops.

This is great. My lord these PS4 Pro fan boys will start offing themselves if this keeps up. Xbox One X. Getting the best version of every game a console can ever get.

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#11 Pedro
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Well the claim that this system is fake 4K is going to have a swift death. Its time to go back to, "it has no games".

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#12 kuu2
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@BlackShirt20 said:

@ronvalencia: LOL just last week PS4 Pro fan boys were saying running Forza 7 at 4K 60fps was nothing special since the game looks like a 360 title. A few said if you wanted to show off the power use Project Cars. Now this news drops.

This is great. My lord these PS4 Pro fan boys will start offing themselves if this keeps up. Xbox One X. Getting the best version of every game a console can ever get.

This is the best post I have see in a while.

Sony Fan continue to be the clowns of SW.

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#13 kuu2
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@lrdfancypants said:

@kuu2:

It's a powerful console for sure.

I want to see what red dead looks like

That's when the real fun starts.

Big juicy multiplats on One X are going to see some serious anger from Bovine.

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499 vs $$$$ titan xp,i7 7700 non k..roc MB,ddr4 ram..

RIP pc master race

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Here we go the usual sceptical questions for direct comparisons at gtx 1070 level. Do we know at what settings will it be running on? Will it hold 60fps or be like project cars 1 40-60fps on current console.

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#16 kuu2
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Awfully quite in this thread considering Cows were talking up PCars just last week and saying how it destroys Forza and that getting it to 4k/60fps was not possible on One X.

Man the back half of this gen is going to be absolutely delicious.

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inb4 "its just a racing game"..

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#18 kuu2
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@Antwan3K said:

inb4 "its just a racing game"..

Well they can't just say that the One X is amazing even compared to PC.

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@Pedro said:

Well the claim that this system is fake 4K is going to have a swift death. Its time to go back to, "it has no games".

The claim was most of the games are fake 4k. That "claim" is still true.

Also, it does objectively have the weakest library. By a lot.

@kuu2 said:
@Antwan3K said:

inb4 "its just a racing game"..

Well they can't just say that the One X is amazing even compared to PC.

It has games stuck at 30 fps. It is not amazing compared to PC.

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@zaryia said:

The claim was most of the games are fake 4k. That "claim" is still true.

Also, it does objectively have the weakest library. By a lot.

Don't think you know that word means what you think it means.

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#21 Zaryia
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@Juub1990 said:
@zaryia said:

The claim was most of the games are fake 4k. That "claim" is still true.

Also, it does objectively have the weakest library. By a lot.

Don't think you know that word means what you think it means.

The lowest amount of 80%/90%+ scoring titles at gamespot and metacritic.

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#22 Juub1990
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@zaryia said:

The lowest amount of 80%/90%+ scoring titles at gamespot and metacritic.

A bunch of subjective opinions doesn't make for an objective one even if they are all combined.

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#23  Edited By ronvalencia
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@zaryia said:
@Pedro said:

Well the claim that this system is fake 4K is going to have a swift death. Its time to go back to, "it has no games".

The claim was most of the games are fake 4k. That "claim" is still true.

Also, it does objectively have the weakest library. By a lot.

My arguments wasn't close to 100 percent 4K since GTX 1070 class GPU is less 4K capable than GTX 1080/Titan XP 1.0/ GTX 1080 Ti/Titan XP 2.0 and incoming RX-Vega 56/RX Vega 64.

A cheer squad is to cheer PC gaming without actually owning GTX 1080/Titan XP 1.0/ GTX 1080 Ti/Titan XP 2.0 and I own GTX 1080 Ti.

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@ronvalencia said:
@zaryia said:
@Pedro said:

Well the claim that this system is fake 4K is going to have a swift death. Its time to go back to, "it has no games".

The claim was most of the games are fake 4k. That "claim" is still true.

Also, it does objectively have the weakest library. By a lot.

My argument wasn't close to 100 percent 4K since GTX 1070 class GPU is less 4K capable than GTX 1080/Titan XP 1.0/ GTX 1080 Ti/Titan XP 2.0 and incoming RX-Vega 56/RX Vega 64.

A cheer squad is to cheer PC gaming without actually owning GTX 1080/Titan XP 1.0/ GTX 1080 Ti/Titan XP 2.0 and I own GTX 1080 Ti.

1. I didn't reply to you. I never talked about your argument. Whats wrong with you.

2. Most XB1X games can not do true 4K. A high end PC will be able to do this.

PC will always be superior.

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#25 kuu2
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@zaryia said:
@Pedro said:

Well the claim that this system is fake 4K is going to have a swift death. Its time to go back to, "it has no games".

The claim was most of the games are fake 4k. That "claim" is still true.

Also, it does objectively have the weakest library. By a lot.

@kuu2 said:
@Antwan3K said:

inb4 "its just a racing game"..

Well they can't just say that the One X is amazing even compared to PC.

It has games stuck at 30 fps. It is not amazing compared to PC.

In this thread for this game its 60fps. Please stick to the topic at hand.

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#26  Edited By ronvalencia
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@zaryia said:
@ronvalencia said:
@zaryia said:
@Pedro said:

Well the claim that this system is fake 4K is going to have a swift death. Its time to go back to, "it has no games".

The claim was most of the games are fake 4k. That "claim" is still true.

Also, it does objectively have the weakest library. By a lot.

My argument wasn't close to 100 percent 4K since GTX 1070 class GPU is less 4K capable than GTX 1080/Titan XP 1.0/ GTX 1080 Ti/Titan XP 2.0 and incoming RX-Vega 56/RX Vega 64.

A cheer squad is to cheer PC gaming without actually owning GTX 1080/Titan XP 1.0/ GTX 1080 Ti/Titan XP 2.0 and I own GTX 1080 Ti.

1. I didn't reply to you. I never talked about your argument. Whats wrong with you.

2. Most XB1X games can not do true 4K. A high end PC will be able to do this.

PC will always be superior.

1. Just for the record.

2. As stated by Phil Spencer, X1X wasn't designed to compete against high end PCs and MS store sells both overclocked GTX 1080 GPU cards and PC OEM partner's gaming PCs with GTX 1070/1080 GPUs. X1X vs Windows 10 gaming PC is like comparing PS Vita to PS4.

Both Windows 10 gaming PC and X1X are DirectX boxes just as PS Vita and PS4 are PlayStation platforms.

http://wccftech.com/scorpio-isnt-trying-compete-high-end/

Spencer: Scorpio Isn’t Trying To Compete with High-End Rigs, It’ll Have Console Price Point

My argument has been X1X's GPU is superior to RX-580 and MSI R9-390 1100Mhz, but less than Vega 56.

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@BlackShirt20: But they still have nothing that touches GoW, Horizon or UC4 :/

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#28 BlackShirt20
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@zaryia: actually most high end PC right now can't run games at 4K with ideal optimization. You'll always have a high amount of frame dropping. And so far 60 games have been announced that have confirmed 4K native resolution for Xbox One X.

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#29  Edited By BlackShirt20
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@BlackShirt20: Based off what?

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#30 Zero_epyon
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So 4K with drops to the mid 40's?

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@Zero_epyon said:

So 4K with drops to the mid 40's?

lmao!

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@BlackShirt20 said:

@BlackShirt20: Based off what?

Quoted yourself broseph lol

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#33  Edited By kuu2
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@Zero_epyon said:

So 4K with drops to the mid 40's?

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

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#34 PinkAnimal
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@Zero_epyon said:

So 4K with drops to the mid 40's?

Or dynamic 4k (which lemmings say that doesn't count as native even if 99% of the game runs native, let's see how they flip this one too) or native 4k that looks as good as dynamic/checkerboard... Either way Lol lems spent the last 4 years saying they didn't care about small resolution differences and now it's the only argument they have against the PS4. If only they had an awesome exclusive library like the PS4 maybe they wouldn't look so sad :(

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#35 Ant_17
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Glad to hear. With GT coming out, they might as well shill on the XXX, cause no one will buy it on the PS4.

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http://gamingbolt.com/project-cars-2-wont-run-at-4k-or-60fps-on-xbox-one-x

You(TC) should go back to charts and graphs. No 4k nor 60fps on XboneX.

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#37 PinkAnimal
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@tigerbalm said:

http://gamingbolt.com/project-cars-2-wont-run-at-4k-or-60fps-on-xbox-one-x

You(TC) should go back to charts and graphs. No 4k nor 60fps on XboneX.

Lol, as it's typical, xbox fanboys falling for BS PR every single time and they refuse to learn. Let's see how they spin this yet again.

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#38 Zero_epyon
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@kuu2 said:
@Zero_epyon said:

So 4K with drops to the mid 40's?

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Project cars ran at 900p and 1080p on the Xbox One and PS4 respectively. While trying to maintain 60fps at those resolutions, the game would tear frames and drop to the mid 40's when weather effects were mixed in. The devs obviously have a preference for graphic quality and resolution over performance. So I don't expect this game to stick to that target on any console. Even with checkerboarding.

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#39  Edited By dan_mimmsie
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wccftech.com/project-cars-2-isnt-4k-60fps-consoles/

Sorry but just been confirmed that it isn't 4k

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#40  Edited By DrLostRib
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you really put a lot of effort into this

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#41  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@kuu2 Wow would you look at that! The timing was perfect. Look at what the devs say about 4K/60 on X1X

Posting on GTPlanet’s forums, Slightly Mad Studios’ Ian Bell said that the game is currently sub 60fps at 4K on the Xbox One X, and that it is hard to hit 4K as long as the game continues to look as it does. As a result, the game is unlikely to hit 4K at all, since Slightly Mad will be attempting to prioritize frame rate (although he did add that even locked 60 frames per second are not something they can commit to on consoles).Read more at http://gamingbolt.com/project-cars-2-wont-run-at-4k-or-60fps-on-xbox-one-x#iA32FD5uYISds7Mo.99

So even after not attempting 4K, they won't even promise it will be 60fps on consoles either. And I was also right about them caring about the visuals more than performance that they're willing to have it dip than look less appealing.

They're not Turn 10 who make every cut they possibly can to get the game to run at target performance.

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#42 Zero_epyon
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@Chutebox said:
@BlackShirt20 said:

@BlackShirt20: Based off what?

Quoted yourself broseph lol

lol this made me chuckle. Somebody forgot to switch!

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#43  Edited By kuu2
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No confirmation of anything other than they misspoke earlier which is only their fault. Cows still clinging to "might not run" from the dev.

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#44 Zero_epyon
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Hey here's a thought! Ron put up a chart of Project Cars on a GTX 1070. It seems to average above 60fps just fine, at ultra no doubt. But if an Xbox One X is equivalent to a GTX 1070 with 16GB or ram, why is this game not able to run at 4K or with a 60FPS guarantee at all on Xbox One X?

Yes SW, I know I'm opening myself up to charts galore. But it has to be said!

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#45  Edited By PinkAnimal
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@kuu2 said:

The console has not even launched yet and we are getting this kind of news and performance.

Yep, news that confirm that the differences between the Pro and X1X are not that big like many smart people who don't buy into Microsoft's hype have claimed time and time again. On both console non-4k and non 60fps. I would be pissed if I had to pay $100 more for a glorified PS4 Pro with no real advantage. Lol. X1X beast... lmfao

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#46 BlackShirt20
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@Zero_epyon: In the same way PS4 Pro wishes they could switch specs?

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@Zero_epyon said:

Hey here's a thought! Ron put up a chart of Project Cars on a GTX 1070. It seems to average above 60fps just fine, at ultra no doubt. But if an Xbox One X is equivalent to a GTX 1070 with 16GB or ram, why is this game not able to run at 4K or with a 60FPS guarantee at all on Xbox One X?

Yes SW, I know I'm opening myself up to charts galore. But it has to be said!

Remember every claim made of the X1X by Microsoft or xbox fanboys comes with an * and small print claiming that: "This could be true, partially not true or complete BS. Most likely the latter.". They now have used the disclaimer for their exclusives* shown at E3 as well as for their claims of True 4k* and so you should stick it to the GTX 1070* too.

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#48 CanYouDiglt
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Great news. I will still probably stick with Forza Horizon 3 and wait for the 4k patch but awesome to see all these 4k games even before the console launches.

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#49 No_bo_dy_83
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weird that Forza 7 is 4k60fps and not this one

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#50 deactivated-5eb6f92daae05
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@no_bo_dy_83 said:

weird that Forza 7 is 4k60fps and not this one

It says 4K/60 in the link for the game...lol