Xbox One X WIDENS GAP over PS4 Pro, was it even close before? truesky technology(video)**rumors**

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#1 Xplode_games
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Developer tells gamebolt new truesky middleware will enable 4X amount of work in the same time. Now it will be possible to run more games at native 4k or choose a 60 fps mode.

These are rumors so take them with a grain of salt. However, the good news for the X just keeps on piling on. I don't know how long those fence sitters will be able to stand it. :o

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#2 Ant_17
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Wow, that clickbait title.

Not watching.

Want cliffs.

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#3 DrLostRib
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so not only is it CrapGamer, but it's over a month old.

That's some real crap

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#4 Creepywelps
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Nice try, crapgamer. I'm not giving you views.

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#5 DaVillain  Moderator
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You're title thread gave it away

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#6  Edited By deactivated-5c0b07b32bf03
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"Good news keeps piling on"

------>X1X still does not have a single exclusive to its name

------>MS still releases no hard numbers. Because the numbers suck.

/thread

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#7 JoshRMeyer
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Ah, so this is crapgamers account... Every notice you have almost as many dislikes on your videos as likes? Maybe try to be a little less bias and you'll get more likes.... Anyone know if there's a crapgamer equivalent for Sony on YouTube?

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#8 xhawk27
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It's true that X1X support is going to grow over the next few years since Next Gen isn't going to start until fall 2020 most likely.

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#9 Ant_17
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@joshrmeyer said:

Ah, so this is crapgamers account... Every notice you have almost as many dislikes on your videos as likes? Maybe try to be a little less bias and you'll get more likes.... Anyone know if there's a crapgamer equivalent for Sony on YouTube?

Greg Miller.

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#10 JoshRMeyer
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@Ant_17: Lol alright thanks... I've watched enough crapgamer. Kinda wanna see how annoying the other side is, for entertainment of course.

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#11 JoshRMeyer
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@Ant_17: Not seeing the comparison... Yeah he's annoying but he's also a "professional" lol. Crapgamer makes up headlines as clickbait and just rambles on about how good Xbox is and sounds mentally retarded(Don't flag me for that, he really does sound like it).

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#12 commander
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@xhawk27 said:

It's true that X1X support is going to grow over the next few years since Next Gen isn't going to start until fall 2020 most likely.

it's probably going to take a lot longer than that with current hardware prices. I doubt amd and nvidia are willing to give out sweet deals to console manufacturers with the prices gpu's are selling and gddr shortages.

Cows are in this for the long run lol

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#13 Ant_17
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@joshrmeyer said:

@Ant_17: Not seeing the comparison... Yeah he's annoying but he's also a "professional" lol. Crapgamer makes up headlines as clickbait and just rambles on about how good Xbox is and sounds mentally retarded(Don't flag me for that, he really does sound like it).

Toxic cows can't reach the radioactive levels of lems.

He is profesonal, but you can't say he isn't full of it.

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#14 kuu2
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It just keeps getting better.

Thank you Microsoft!

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#15 Fairmonkey
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Xbox has no games

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#16 tormentos
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So not even winning lemmings drop the secret sauce..lol

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#17  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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The gap will only continue to widen between the X & Pro going forward... we know that :)

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#18 Xabiss
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So anything from Crapgamer is just CRAP! He is a biased fanboy and can't stand his content because of it. Over 95% of his content is just click bait shit.

@Ant_17 said:
@joshrmeyer said:

Ah, so this is crapgamers account... Every notice you have almost as many dislikes on your videos as likes? Maybe try to be a little less bias and you'll get more likes.... Anyone know if there's a crapgamer equivalent for Sony on YouTube?

Greg Miller.

Greg Miller is a Sony fanboy, but he is nothing compared to CrapGamer. I listen to KindaFunny daily and he says good shit about Xbox all the time and his cohost do the same.

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#19 Pedro
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Gawd, I couldn't make it pass his anti PS4 owner comment.

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#20 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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For those who don't know and think this is not true, this technology enables cloud condensation to be 4x what we find in nature. Thank you, another victory for the mighty X. Or as crapgamer would put it "this changes everything gaming will never be the same".

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#21  Edited By ronvalencia
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@Xplode_games said:

Developer tells gamebolt new truesky middleware will enable 4X amount of work in the same time. Now it will be possible to run more games at native 4k or choose a 60 fps mode.

These are rumors so take them with a grain of salt. However, the good news for the X just keeps on piling on. I don't know how long those fence sitters will be able to stand it. :o

Typically, transparencies are processed on ROPS blend functions... X1X ROPS has 2MB render cache.

Hawaii's 1MB L2 cache has 1TB/s bandwidth (not connected to ROPS) and dear old PS4 Pro's ROPS memory bandwidth only has 218 GB/s memory bandwidth (sucks to have GCN 1.0 ROPS technology and that's includes Polaris RX-580) which is 4X less than X1X's ROPS tile cache rendering.

TrueSky is only a part of the entire rendering work.

Picking on PS4 Pro's weak spot is easy.

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#22 Douevenlift_bro
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LMAO

sad times

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#23  Edited By ronvalencia
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@Douevenlift_bro said:

LMAO

sad times

It wouldn't be a problem for PS5... hopefully, PS5 has atleast 64 ROPS and unified 4MB L2 cache tile rendering.

It's strange to have separate TMU and ROPS when both are scatter/gather read/write units. ROPS has the fix function math operations... I wonder if TMUs can assimilate ROPS functions.

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#24 JoshRMeyer
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@phbz: Is this the "cloud" you guys have been waiting 4 years for? Lol congrats

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#25 ronvalencia
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@joshrmeyer said:

@phbz: Is this the "cloud" you guys have been waiting 4 years for? Lol congrats

TrueSky is just middleware technology for skies and skyboxes

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#26 JoshRMeyer
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@ronvalencia: I was kidding. Sarcasm. A joke. Etc.

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#27 ronvalencia
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@joshrmeyer said:

@ronvalencia: I was kidding. Sarcasm. A joke. Etc.

I'm aware of the joke.

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#28  Edited By ronvalencia
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@tormentos said:

So not even winning lemmings drop the secret sauce..lol

PS4 Pro's ROPS doesn't have X1X's 2MB rendering cache.

1MB L2 cache in Hawaii GPU has ~1TB/s memory bandwidth at 1Ghz clock speed, but stupid AMD didn't connect it to ROPS, hence gaming workloads are largely bound by non-DCC external memory bandwidth.

Hawaii is fine with GpGPU (e.g. crypto currency) when TMUs are used with 1MB L2 cache. Polaris 10 has 2MB L2 cache and it's very competitive with GP104 in crypto currency GpGPU workloads, but graphics workloads needs ROPS which is not connect to hyper fast L2 cache.

If X1X ROPS's 2MB render cache has ~1TB/s memory bandwidth and they used micro-tile cache render methods, the potential X1X's advantage is 4X over PS4 Pro's ROPS with 218 GB/s memory bandwidth.

Most AMD examples are in compute shader path which is connected to L2 cache which narrows X1X's advantage.

TrueSky is picking on PS4 Pro's known weakness.

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#29 Douevenlift_bro
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@ronvalencia said:
@Douevenlift_bro said:

LMAO

sad times

It wouldn't be a problem for PS5... hopefully, PS5 has atleast 64 ROPS and unified 4MB L2 cache tile rendering.

It's strange to have separate TMU and ROPS when both are scatter/gather read/write units. ROPS has the fix function math operations... I wonder if TMUs can assimilate ROPS functions.

Sad times for lems you fool LMAO

While we play AAAA you guys make pathetic threads about who knows what

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#30 Calvincfb
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Still no good exclusives and slight better version of multiplats. Im fine with my OG ps4 thanks.

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The good news just keeps piling on

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#32  Edited By ronvalencia
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@Douevenlift_bro said:
@ronvalencia said:
@Douevenlift_bro said:

LMAO

sad times

It wouldn't be a problem for PS5... hopefully, PS5 has atleast 64 ROPS and unified 4MB L2 cache tile rendering.

It's strange to have separate TMU and ROPS when both are scatter/gather read/write units. ROPS has the fix function math operations... I wonder if TMUs can assimilate ROPS functions.

Sad times for lems you fool LMAO

While we play AAAA you guys make pathetic threads about who knows what

Piss off fool. I haven't purchased Xbox One X.

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#33 Creepywelps
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@ronvalencia: Still a lem.

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#34 Douevenlift_bro
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@ronvalencia said:
@Douevenlift_bro said:
@ronvalencia said:
@Douevenlift_bro said:

LMAO

sad times

It wouldn't be a problem for PS5... hopefully, PS5 has atleast 64 ROPS and unified 4MB L2 cache tile rendering.

It's strange to have separate TMU and ROPS when both are scatter/gather read/write units. ROPS has the fix function math operations... I wonder if TMUs can assimilate ROPS functions.

Sad times for lems you fool LMAO

While we play AAAA you guys make pathetic threads about who knows what

Piss off fool. I haven't purchased Xbox One X.

-pisses off- lol you cant offend me sir. Good day!

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#35 VFighter
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@ronvalencia: Well that was a quick meltdown lol. Start posting like a human and not a biased dumb machine and people might accept you...doubtful but it's worth a shot.

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#36 QuadKnight
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@biack_goku said:

The good news just keeps piling on

Dang, even IGN is trolling lems now ?

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#37  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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lol, when your console only has a graphics card to boast about.

Sweet desperation

Keep fighting the good fight lems.

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#39 shellcase86
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Fence sitters? Where?

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#40 tgob89
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Lems STILL talking about power of the X after getting REKT in game sales by Mario Odyssey and destroyed in graphics awards by Horizon Zero Dawn?

Do these guys ever learn?

Everyone knows the X is more powerful than Pro lems, telling people it's "even more" powerful is supposed to do what exactly???

Psst, without exclusive games....NO ONE CARES!