Xbox One X destroys PC in value, build me a comparable PC with pre-mining prices, easy you can't!

Lmao how many times do you need to edit

High freq is ideally aimed at ear level. Dunno why it's shooting higher than a couch/ear listening level. lulz. And all that hardwood, in corners where ALL sound gets reflected!!!!!!.

This crap again? Why would I need to build a $500 PC to match the X1X, when my 8 year old cpu paired with a modern gpu already destroys it utterly?

It's amusing to see the PC elitists so triggered by this thread.

PC is free of troubleshooting? Yeah, sure.

XBL $60 a year rise the price considerably on PC you don't have that.

Realistically it's like $40 if you bother to look around for 5 minutes to get a deal, also it's not mandatory and doesn't mean someone is going to be playing online games.

I wouldn't wanna play online games on XBL lol. Low fps on Mp is a bust, as is the lack of good genres/games for XBL.

Or give us graphics like this:

Instead, this is what they get:

Versus this:

Where's the laughing emoji?! Lol

@DragonfireXZ95 said:

@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

Build me a Xbox One X that lets me process images in Lightroom while watching YouTube video's on a 21:9 monitor?...

Or give us graphics like this:

Instead, this is what they get:

Versus this:

Where's the laughing emoji?! Lol

??????? OP has been rekt!

X1X's GPU is not a laptop part i.e. it's effectively R9-390X modernized with Polaris and Vega design blocks.

Ryzen 2xxx seems to be competitive against Intel Kabylake and CoffeeLake

Check it out you guyz........... why poorly positioned system with my primarily hardwood floored room that i spend more than 10 grand on, is what it takes to make a xb1x worth it............? Thats all I can really draw from this.

all you need is a GTX 1060 to get X1X equivalent performance in games

You mention games like forza 7 at 4K which is extremely easy to run and get above 60fps at max settings even with a GTX 1060.

Build me xbox one x that plays game at 60 fps, has free online and kb+m controls in competitive shooters. You can't

If only the Xbox One got all the hundreds upon hundreds of games that doesn't come to Xbox but are available on PC.

It really is so good to be MonsterBox MasterRace. Thank you MS, for the gamers... Jazz. :P

To be fair I'd rather be able to spend a few minutes troubleshooting than buying a PS4 Pro that was shit, loud and crashed alot having to waste my time waiting for the braindead morons at the games store to judge if I'm "telling the truth" and that "Have you tried are mediocre list of troubleshooting fixes because we know nothing"?

I troubleshoot once every few months, its so rare its a joke.

GTX 1060 doesn't match X1X's results in Gears of War 4 4K, Far Cry 5 4K, Forza Motorsport 7 wet tracks and Killer Instinct.

Is the Xbox X good value for money as far as power is concerned? Absolutely! Does it play even a fraction of the games I want to play? Absolutely not.

Personally, I've recently started a new job which involves travelling all over the world and I'm currently looking at buying a gaming laptop costing close to £3000. So, frankly, I couldn't give a flying f*ck how much more expensive it is than a Xbox One X.

Pc is better. It is now, it has been, and it always will be. Tough shit. Deal with it

@ronvalencia: That mod is actually really nice.

Why do you think the PRO crashes a lot? It can get loud, but crashing all the time? My PC crashes more than my PRO.

Even the measly 1060 will provide a better 4k experience than the X1X, I mean seriously, haven't you heard that consoles use techniques like these (checkerboard rendering, dynamic resolution, upscaling) to a achieve fake 4k at 30 fps, and also they do it at lower settings and small fov as well.

I can't build a comparable PC for the same money as I can't buy a comparably shit CPU like the one in X to use in said PC.

Oh look, NyaDC is back to his usual unlikeable self. Ladies and gentlemen, applause for NyaDC!

I had to replace one because it was having crashing issues on quite a few games, causing a BSOD (irony is unreal). Only the replacement is so loud (much louder than my 6 fan tower) when playing games I barely use it. Apperently a common occurance.

All this anecdotal talk aside, the point is you can't do anything about a console if something is playing up beyond going through either a returns or repair process, the latter can take weeks.

IF your PC is crashing in 2018 then this is on you. Crashes are rare as hell these days. You literally are living in the early 2000s.

Actually I'm someone else here that literally deactivated his account a week ago, I'm honestly surprised part of my name doesn't make it an easy give-away. Either way I'm not breaking any TOS as I have no other accounts.

Games I mention wasn't checkerboard nor dynamic resolution.

X1X's Far Cry 5 stomped GTX 1060 and RX-580 to the ground.

But how many people buy reference cards with reference clocks these days?

Nearly everyone is running a factory overclocked 3rd party card...

And no it didn't stomp a 1060 to the ground in FC5.

Too bad for your faulty PRO dude, but PCs are more prone to failure due to the open nature of them and infinite different setups.

I agree, but the point is

1) You can usually solve it quickly

2) its now incredibly rare providing your not using a toaster and making sure you update

ITs a minor bullshi*t arguement in 2018

According to Digital Foundry, both GTX 1060 and RX-580 did NOT match X1X's result.

The games you mention do not use max settings, and also use dynamic settings, exept Forza, but 1060 can run Forza Motorsport 7 at native 4k, with ultra settings(not dynamic) and never drops below 60 fps even on rain.

no matter how you spin it the X1X and GTX1060 have similar graphics and performance.

@MK-Professor: lets say one x is 1060 6gb equivalent with an i5 to run forza 4k 60fps

is one x a piece of trash like pc gamers say? since when that kind of power is bad??

Bullshit,

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-one-x-pc-and-xbox-one-graphics-comparison-gea/1100-6454615/

While discussing Gears of War 4, reviewer Jimmy Thang said, "In terms of pure image fidelity, it surprisingly looked better than our high-end gaming PC equipped with a GTX 1080 running the game maxed out, as it offered extra dynamic shadows that don't seem to be available on the PC.

Try gain.

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Far Cry 5, both RX-580 and GTX 1060 can't match X1X's results WITH Xbox One X settings

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The above benchmark has max details at 4K on MSI Gaming X 980 TI.

The GPU needs to score about 1000 points for 60 fps range.

X1X lands on around GTX 980 Ti / GTX 1070 range GPU.

X1X beats GTX 1060.

RX-580 and AMD GPUs in general are very strong with this game benchmark.

@ronvalencia: Your Gamespot quote is missing some info.

“Unfortunately, the game doesn't run at 60 FPS here on the Xbox One X, so a high-end PC will be able to beat it in terms of framerate”

And Jimmy Thang? Really? That’s who you’re gonna hang your reputation on? First “Ark Dev,” and now Jimmy Thang.

@goldenelementxl: if one x gpu is (lets say..) between a 1060 and a 1070 is it still considered crap? Cause Im sure neither of these gpu are sh#t. Since one x came out pc gamers pretend that only 1080 can be considered good?

Why do car drivers bring up all the things it can do but they never talk about biker helmets? ...huh?

Thats how ridiculous your question sounds like.

Why should PC gamers give a damn about Blu-ray players? PC gamers watch movies of all qualities (including 4k) digitally, because PCs have the capacity for it, why should PC gamers give two craps about optical drives? they are USELESS to us, thats why they are never brought up.

Xbox ONE X owners NEED blu-ray drivers because you cannot have the storage capacity to store both 4k movies and games like PCs have.

@Dark_sageX: Remember when lems last gen tried to argue that the blu-ray player in the PS3 was pointless and that no one needed it?

@pcmasterrace69: The issue is not even a GTX 1080 is considered a good 4K GPU by PC enthusiasts. So the fact that the Xbox One X is marketed as a “no compromises, true 4K” console with a GPU around a GTX 1060 is crazy. A GTX 1060 is a good 1080p GPU and a 1070 is a good 1440p GPU. These GPUs aren’t “shit,” but they also aren’t marketed by Nvidia or hyped by their consumers like the Xbox One X is.

Build me a console that has games and can do things other than play them

Gears of War 4

RX480(no OC) at 4k and ultra settings averege at 24 fps, X1X play the same game at 30fps, not to mention that pc version is an older version.

Forza Motorsport 7

GTX 1060(OC) at 4k and ultra settings averege 70fps, X1X don't use always ultra but dynamic settings.

Far Cry 5

GTX 1060(OC) at 4k and ultra settings averege 25-30fps, again the X1X play at lower settings while maintaining 30fps

Killer Instinct

GTX 1060(OC) at 4k and max settings averege 60fps just like the X1X (btw the benchmarks you show was totally wrong or maybe to old)

X1X = GTX 1060

@MK-Professor: If I bought a pc with an i5 6400 + gtx 1060 6gb + 16gb ram (cant do 12 so xD) + case + psu + water vapor cooler + hdd + board + wifi + bluetooth (Im not gonna count 4k hdr disk player in final price) in the end we get a pc twice the price than one x (got mine last week for 450€ with origins).

You are saying yourself that 1060 6gb runs games at 4k. If thats the case then you pc guys should be happy that console gamers hardware is that of a 1060 6gb right? why pc gamers call one x sh#t and trash when it clearly is a powerful gaming machine for a great price?

They really only call the CPU in the X1X shit, which it is.

Not sure why pc gamers call one x sh#t and trash maybe because they don't like the lack of freedom and options.

As for the cost you are forgetting that many people(including myself) already have decent PC at home for other purposes, so all you need to do is slap a mid-range GPU (like the GTX1060) and you get X1X performance at the fraction of the cost of X1X.