If I had a choice between a PC that performed worse than an Xbox 1 for the same price.
I would choose the PC everytime.
Poor peasants, so busy fighting over premium consoles, forgetting all of their shortcomings outside of "Hur dur 4k"
And here's my point, what harm would it do to make consoles multi-functional? They're literally just PCs whose operating systems are locked down to stop users from using them for anything but gaming and media. Technically speaking, unlocking them wouldn't cost a darn thing, it's just a software change. Why do people want something that can do a million different things, but won't because the people who sold it to you designed it to not be able to? Let's see, $500 on something that will only play games, doesn't have a decent mod community, and will be obsolete in about five years, or $600-700 on something that runs just as well, will do things like word processing and media editing, and that I can upgrade when it starts to decline instead of buying a whole new system?
Probably want to keep 'em closed to prevent pirating. Besides personally I want to keep PC and game consoles separate. Wouldn't do any PC stuff with a console anyways, more unapproved/untested software and crap just raises the risk of being unstable and who wants to troubleshoot their console instead of playing some games?
I know we're all accustomed to seeing those cheap builds with all sorts of components stuffed in cheap cases, no Windows and so on and so forth.
Some of them even come close to the $500 price tag of the X. Now allow me to explain why those comparisons are not only ridiculous but also dishonest.
The reason is SIZE. A small form factor such as with the X is EXPENSIVE. The X uses mostly laptop parts to achieve it's small footprint and performance. It achieves this while also having a UHD Blu-Ray player, very quiet and runs cool. It even comes with a controller and some games on a deal.
The honest comparison would be build a PC the same size and with the same performance as the X with the budget of $500. You won't even come close. You can't do it even with those Frankenstein builds, imagine with the small form factor cool and quiet htpc, laughable!
How much does a laptop with X performance cost? Anywhere near $500? I am giving you guys pre-mining prices. It won't make a difference, who wants to waste their time coming up with a build that comes even close?
except after building a pc you don't have to pay 60 buck a year for playing online and you have access to steam sales and also you never have to buy another pc again you just upgrade it part by part while after a new console comes out you have to pay the price of a new console
I know we're all accustomed to seeing those cheap builds with all sorts of components stuffed in cheap cases, no Windows and so on and so forth.
Some of them even come close to the $500 price tag of the X. Now allow me to explain why those comparisons are not only ridiculous but also dishonest.
The reason is SIZE. A small form factor such as with the X is EXPENSIVE. The X uses mostly laptop parts to achieve it's small footprint and performance. It achieves this while also having a UHD Blu-Ray player, very quiet and runs cool. It even comes with a controller and some games on a deal.
The honest comparison would be build a PC the same size and with the same performance as the X with the budget of $500. You won't even come close. You can't do it even with those Frankenstein builds, imagine with the small form factor cool and quiet htpc, laughable!
How much does a laptop with X performance cost? Anywhere near $500? I am giving you guys pre-mining prices. It won't make a difference, who wants to waste their time coming up with a build that comes even close?
except after building a pc you don't have to pay 60 buck a year for playing online and you have access to steam sales and also you never have to buy another pc again you just upgrade it part by part while after a new console comes out you have to pay the price of a new console
Yeah...that's why everyone kept everything in their original 486 cases
I know we're all accustomed to seeing those cheap builds with all sorts of components stuffed in cheap cases, no Windows and so on and so forth.
Some of them even come close to the $500 price tag of the X. Now allow me to explain why those comparisons are not only ridiculous but also dishonest.
The reason is SIZE. A small form factor such as with the X is EXPENSIVE. The X uses mostly laptop parts to achieve it's small footprint and performance. It achieves this while also having a UHD Blu-Ray player, very quiet and runs cool. It even comes with a controller and some games on a deal.
The honest comparison would be build a PC the same size and with the same performance as the X with the budget of $500. You won't even come close. You can't do it even with those Frankenstein builds, imagine with the small form factor cool and quiet htpc, laughable!
How much does a laptop with X performance cost? Anywhere near $500? I am giving you guys pre-mining prices. It won't make a difference, who wants to waste their time coming up with a build that comes even close?
except after building a pc you don't have to pay 60 buck a year for playing online and you have access to steam sales and also you never have to buy another pc again you just upgrade it part by part while after a new console comes out you have to pay the price of a new console
and...
Steam (as just an example) released more than 7000 games in 2017 alone so the variety is far larger then consoles and yes..many of those thousands of games are good if your into the genre
If I had a choice between a PC that performed worse than an Xbox 1 for the same price.
I would choose the PC everytime.
Poor peasants, so busy fighting over premium consoles, forgetting all of their shortcomings outside of "Hur dur 4k"
And here's my point, what harm would it do to make consoles multi-functional? They're literally just PCs whose operating systems are locked down to stop users from using them for anything but gaming and media. Technically speaking, unlocking them wouldn't cost a darn thing, it's just a software change. Why do people want something that can do a million different things, but won't because the people who sold it to you designed it to not be able to? Let's see, $500 on something that will only play games, doesn't have a decent mod community, and will be obsolete in about five years, or $600-700 on something that runs just as well, will do things like word processing and media editing, and that I can upgrade when it starts to decline instead of buying a whole new system?
You just touched on Microsoft's Trump card. If they release a next gen Xbox with a Ryzen CPU, 15 teraflop GPU and make it run full Windows for $500, they will smash Sony. Sony won't have an answer other than to pay Microsoft the licensing fee to include Windows in their Playstation as well. At that point Microsoft would be making money from PC, Xbox and Playstation sales.
I don't know why Microsoft doesn't do that. I think they should and maybe they will for the next gen Xbox. That will guarantee they will dethrone Sony and put them in the strongest position they have ever been IMHO.
If I had a choice between a PC that performed worse than an Xbox 1 for the same price.
I would choose the PC everytime.
Poor peasants, so busy fighting over premium consoles, forgetting all of their shortcomings outside of "Hur dur 4k"
And here's my point, what harm would it do to make consoles multi-functional? They're literally just PCs whose operating systems are locked down to stop users from using them for anything but gaming and media. Technically speaking, unlocking them wouldn't cost a darn thing, it's just a software change. Why do people want something that can do a million different things, but won't because the people who sold it to you designed it to not be able to? Let's see, $500 on something that will only play games, doesn't have a decent mod community, and will be obsolete in about five years, or $600-700 on something that runs just as well, will do things like word processing and media editing, and that I can upgrade when it starts to decline instead of buying a whole new system?
You just touched on Microsoft's Trump card. If they release a next gen Xbox with a Ryzen CPU, 15 teraflop GPU and make it run full Windows for $500, they will smash Sony. Sony won't have an answer other than to pay Microsoft the licensing fee to include Windows in their Playstation as well. At that point Microsoft would be making money from PC, Xbox and Playstation sales.
I don't know why Microsoft doesn't do that. I think they should and maybe they will for the next gen Xbox. That will guarantee they will dethrone Sony and put them in the strongest position they have ever been IMHO.
That would literally be Microsoft selling PC's at the specs you mentioned for $500.
Get a real one, and have the considerably superior version of every game on XB1X, much much better library each year, mods, and actual competitive online.
That's my gaming build son. My office work build consists of a 3770K with 16GB DDR3 and a mighty R9 380 8GB, Also my 4 core 4.2GHz i5 runs rings around the current generation of consoles... Core's mean very little past 4 its why Ryzen 6/8 core CPU's get curb stomped by overclocked 6600K's and 8350K's.
Its for games though right?... If I connect the X1X it to my 21:9 monitor can I play games at 21:9 and 144Hz?... I am really interesting in investing into the X, just wanted to know If I could still use my GAMING monitor with it.
1. Your i5 doesn't run rings around consoles. Your 1080 ti does as it should with the massive $750 price and that was before the miners. If you were to take your i5 and pair it with your R9 380, the X would destroy it. That is the reason MS went with the super powerful GPU and weak CPU. Maybe that's why you did the same with your gaming build.
2. I own a Dell 34" Ultrawide monitor and I have never tried connecting my X to it. I suspect it won't support the full 21:9 aspect ratio. You would get black bars on the side so it would be pointless. Also, home consoles target 30 or 60 fps and nothing higher so the 144hz of your monitor would be useless.
A i5 4670K at 4.2Ghz doesn't run rings around a AMD 2.3Ghz bulldozer APU?...
You might need a transplant or something, every i5 at stock clocks destroys the FX series of AMD CPU's at double the clocks of the chip inside the consoles.
A 2.3Ghz bulldozer apu... Would destroy a i5 K CPU overclocked?... You know here the X1X would be on this chart below?...
My point is an i5 by itself is rather useless for gaming. You have to pair it with quite a beefy GPU in order to equal or surpass the X's performance. Maybe that's why you paired it with a $750(pre-mining) GPU?
What?... if you pair the Xbox one X GPU it would perform better than a X1X. The GTX 1080 isn't being bottlenecked by a i3 but is being bottlenecked by a FX 3.2Ghz CPU.
Where is your common sense?
Microsoft didn't have the option to add in an i5 instead of their CPU. If they added an i5(equivalent), then they would've had to have a weaker GPU to stay in the same $500 price point. The choice they made was the right one, the strongest GPU possible for the money then they beefed up the Cache and clocks on their CPU the most they could and that was it.
You're comparing it to desktop CPUs that cost over $200 for the CPU alone and GPUs that cost $750 for the GPU alone.
That's my gaming build son. My office work build consists of a 3770K with 16GB DDR3 and a mighty R9 380 8GB, Also my 4 core 4.2GHz i5 runs rings around the current generation of consoles... Core's mean very little past 4 its why Ryzen 6/8 core CPU's get curb stomped by overclocked 6600K's and 8350K's.
Its for games though right?... If I connect the X1X it to my 21:9 monitor can I play games at 21:9 and 144Hz?... I am really interesting in investing into the X, just wanted to know If I could still use my GAMING monitor with it.
1. Your i5 doesn't run rings around consoles. Your 1080 ti does as it should with the massive $750 price and that was before the miners. If you were to take your i5 and pair it with your R9 380, the X would destroy it. That is the reason MS went with the super powerful GPU and weak CPU. Maybe that's why you did the same with your gaming build.
2. I own a Dell 34" Ultrawide monitor and I have never tried connecting my X to it. I suspect it won't support the full 21:9 aspect ratio. You would get black bars on the side so it would be pointless. Also, home consoles target 30 or 60 fps and nothing higher so the 144hz of your monitor would be useless.
A i5 4670K at 4.2Ghz doesn't run rings around a AMD 2.3Ghz bulldozer APU?...
You might need a transplant or something, every i5 at stock clocks destroys the FX series of AMD CPU's at double the clocks of the chip inside the consoles.
A 2.3Ghz bulldozer apu... Would destroy a i5 K CPU overclocked?... You know here the X1X would be on this chart below?...
My point is an i5 by itself is rather useless for gaming. You have to pair it with quite a beefy GPU in order to equal or surpass the X's performance. Maybe that's why you paired it with a $750(pre-mining) GPU?
how is it useless for gaming?
An i5 by itself. In other words, using the onboard graphics and no discrete GPU. Wouldn't you agree that an i5 is useless for gaming that way?
@Xplode_games: no it doesn’t. I built my PC in 2012. It’s STILL more powerful than the x1x. It has more games. Does more things and has provided me 6 years of entertainment and still going strong. X1x can only hope to be a thing 6 years from now. To me none of these consoles provide the value my pc has and I own them all. If I had to only pick one I’d burn every console I owned before I got rid of my pc.
A PC built 6 years ago is a lot weaker than an X. State your specs please.
1. Your i5 doesn't run rings around consoles. Your 1080 ti does as it should with the massive $750 price and that was before the miners. If you were to take your i5 and pair it with your R9 380, the X would destroy it. That is the reason MS went with the super powerful GPU and weak CPU. Maybe that's why you did the same with your gaming build.
2. I own a Dell 34" Ultrawide monitor and I have never tried connecting my X to it. I suspect it won't support the full 21:9 aspect ratio. You would get black bars on the side so it would be pointless. Also, home consoles target 30 or 60 fps and nothing higher so the 144hz of your monitor would be useless.
A i5 4670K at 4.2Ghz doesn't run rings around a AMD 2.3Ghz bulldozer APU?...
You might need a transplant or something, every i5 at stock clocks destroys the FX series of AMD CPU's at double the clocks of the chip inside the consoles.
A 2.3Ghz bulldozer apu... Would destroy a i5 K CPU overclocked?... You know here the X1X would be on this chart below?...
My point is an i5 by itself is rather useless for gaming. You have to pair it with quite a beefy GPU in order to equal or surpass the X's performance. Maybe that's why you paired it with a $750(pre-mining) GPU?
What?... if you pair the Xbox one X GPU it would perform better than a X1X. The GTX 1080 isn't being bottlenecked by a i3 but is being bottlenecked by a FX 3.2Ghz CPU.
Where is your common sense?
Microsoft didn't have the option to add in an i5 instead of their CPU. If they added an i5(equivalent), then they would've had to have a weaker GPU to stay in the same $500 price point. The choice they made was the right one, the strongest GPU possible for the money then they beefed up the Cache and clocks on their CPU the most they could and that was it.
You're comparing it to desktop CPUs that cost over $200 for the CPU alone and GPUs that cost $750 for the GPU alone.
The absolute fruck is wrong with you?... You are the one who said your "your i5 doesn't run rings around the consoles", I prove you wrong then you respond with the money argument again?...
My lord.
The X1X in terms of price to performance is excellent, but so is every consoles... Hell the PS4 pro in terms of price to performance is even better than the X1X and actually has games that are exclusive to it.
Just stop the insecure trolling, thanks to all games being on PC that are on the Xbox One X and the fact that I use a X1 controller... My PC is essentially a Xbox One XL.
I know we're all accustomed to seeing those cheap builds with all sorts of components stuffed in cheap cases, no Windows and so on and so forth.
Some of them even come close to the $500 price tag of the X. Now allow me to explain why those comparisons are not only ridiculous but also dishonest.
The reason is SIZE. A small form factor such as with the X is EXPENSIVE. The X uses mostly laptop parts to achieve it's small footprint and performance. It achieves this while also having a UHD Blu-Ray player, very quiet and runs cool. It even comes with a controller and some games on a deal.
The honest comparison would be build a PC the same size and with the same performance as the X with the budget of $500. You won't even come close. You can't do it even with those Frankenstein builds, imagine with the small form factor cool and quiet htpc, laughable!
How much does a laptop with X performance cost? Anywhere near $500? I am giving you guys pre-mining prices. It won't make a difference, who wants to waste their time coming up with a build that comes even close?
except after building a pc you don't have to pay 60 buck a year for playing online and you have access to steam sales and also you never have to buy another pc again you just upgrade it part by part while after a new console comes out you have to pay the price of a new console
For 60 dollars a year you get online as well as 48 games so you're not just paying for online, you're also paying for 48 games a year. On X you also have sales very similar to steam sales. Especially since steam sales the last couple of years have been crappy anyway. Maybe that's why Xbox sales have caught up.
With a console you can't upgrade it. But you buy the new console and you sell your old one towards the purchase of the new console. Then you keep all of your games and everything only the are enhanced. Kind of like when you upgrade your cell phone. You can sell your old one to offset the price of the new one and you keep everything.
Btw, I am not advocating that an Xbox One X or any console is better than a PC. I don't believe that and I have never said that. The claim I am making in this thread is that those who argue that you can build a PC for the same price as an X are wrong to the point of being ridiculous.
I have a PC and I think the X is a great compliment to a gaming PC. I also own a Switch btw.
1. Your i5 doesn't run rings around consoles. Your 1080 ti does as it should with the massive $750 price and that was before the miners. If you were to take your i5 and pair it with your R9 380, the X would destroy it. That is the reason MS went with the super powerful GPU and weak CPU. Maybe that's why you did the same with your gaming build.
2. I own a Dell 34" Ultrawide monitor and I have never tried connecting my X to it. I suspect it won't support the full 21:9 aspect ratio. You would get black bars on the side so it would be pointless. Also, home consoles target 30 or 60 fps and nothing higher so the 144hz of your monitor would be useless.
A i5 4670K at 4.2Ghz doesn't run rings around a AMD 2.3Ghz bulldozer APU?...
You might need a transplant or something, every i5 at stock clocks destroys the FX series of AMD CPU's at double the clocks of the chip inside the consoles.
A 2.3Ghz bulldozer apu... Would destroy a i5 K CPU overclocked?... You know here the X1X would be on this chart below?...
My point is an i5 by itself is rather useless for gaming. You have to pair it with quite a beefy GPU in order to equal or surpass the X's performance. Maybe that's why you paired it with a $750(pre-mining) GPU?
how is it useless for gaming?
An i5 by itself. In other words, using the onboard graphics and no discrete GPU. Wouldn't you agree that an i5 is useless for gaming that way?
A i5 4670K at 4.2Ghz doesn't run rings around a AMD 2.3Ghz bulldozer APU?...
You might need a transplant or something, every i5 at stock clocks destroys the FX series of AMD CPU's at double the clocks of the chip inside the consoles.
A 2.3Ghz bulldozer apu... Would destroy a i5 K CPU overclocked?... You know here the X1X would be on this chart below?...
My point is an i5 by itself is rather useless for gaming. You have to pair it with quite a beefy GPU in order to equal or surpass the X's performance. Maybe that's why you paired it with a $750(pre-mining) GPU?
What?... if you pair the Xbox one X GPU it would perform better than a X1X. The GTX 1080 isn't being bottlenecked by a i3 but is being bottlenecked by a FX 3.2Ghz CPU.
Where is your common sense?
Microsoft didn't have the option to add in an i5 instead of their CPU. If they added an i5(equivalent), then they would've had to have a weaker GPU to stay in the same $500 price point. The choice they made was the right one, the strongest GPU possible for the money then they beefed up the Cache and clocks on their CPU the most they could and that was it.
You're comparing it to desktop CPUs that cost over $200 for the CPU alone and GPUs that cost $750 for the GPU alone.
thanks to all games being on PC that are on the Xbox One X and the fact that I use a X1 controller... My PC is essentially a Xbox One XL.
Without th superior HDR and Atmos support of course. Kind of a dumbed down X1X in a way.
I know we're all accustomed to seeing those cheap builds with all sorts of components stuffed in cheap cases, no Windows and so on and so forth.
Some of them even come close to the $500 price tag of the X. Now allow me to explain why those comparisons are not only ridiculous but also dishonest.
The reason is SIZE. A small form factor such as with the X is EXPENSIVE. The X uses mostly laptop parts to achieve it's small footprint and performance. It achieves this while also having a UHD Blu-Ray player, very quiet and runs cool. It even comes with a controller and some games on a deal.
The honest comparison would be build a PC the same size and with the same performance as the X with the budget of $500. You won't even come close. You can't do it even with those Frankenstein builds, imagine with the small form factor cool and quiet htpc, laughable!
How much does a laptop with X performance cost? Anywhere near $500? I am giving you guys pre-mining prices. It won't make a difference, who wants to waste their time coming up with a build that comes even close?
except after building a pc you don't have to pay 60 buck a year for playing online and you have access to steam sales and also you never have to buy another pc again you just upgrade it part by part while after a new console comes out you have to pay the price of a new console
For 60 dollars a year you get online as well as 48 games so you're not just paying for online, you're also paying for 48 games a year. On X you also have sales very similar to steam sales. Especially since steam sales the last couple of years have been crappy anyway. Maybe that's why Xbox sales have caught up.
....
lol..
but your access is like the equivalent of 1/16th internet.
paying money to access the internet on top of your internet provider is the most absurd rip off I have ever heard of.
I know we're all accustomed to seeing those cheap builds with all sorts of components stuffed in cheap cases, no Windows and so on and so forth.
Some of them even come close to the $500 price tag of the X. Now allow me to explain why those comparisons are not only ridiculous but also dishonest.
The reason is SIZE. A small form factor such as with the X is EXPENSIVE. The X uses mostly laptop parts to achieve it's small footprint and performance. It achieves this while also having a UHD Blu-Ray player, very quiet and runs cool. It even comes with a controller and some games on a deal.
The honest comparison would be build a PC the same size and with the same performance as the X with the budget of $500. You won't even come close. You can't do it even with those Frankenstein builds, imagine with the small form factor cool and quiet htpc, laughable!
How much does a laptop with X performance cost? Anywhere near $500? I am giving you guys pre-mining prices. It won't make a difference, who wants to waste their time coming up with a build that comes even close?
except after building a pc you don't have to pay 60 buck a year for playing online and you have access to steam sales and also you never have to buy another pc again you just upgrade it part by part while after a new console comes out you have to pay the price of a new console
Yeah...that's why everyone kept everything in their original 486 cases
This is just too stupid to even be slightly funny.
How long since AT has been retired and ATX has been around.....? Lulz.
I know we're all accustomed to seeing those cheap builds with all sorts of components stuffed in cheap cases, no Windows and so on and so forth.
Some of them even come close to the $500 price tag of the X. Now allow me to explain why those comparisons are not only ridiculous but also dishonest.
The reason is SIZE. A small form factor such as with the X is EXPENSIVE. The X uses mostly laptop parts to achieve it's small footprint and performance. It achieves this while also having a UHD Blu-Ray player, very quiet and runs cool. It even comes with a controller and some games on a deal.
The honest comparison would be build a PC the same size and with the same performance as the X with the budget of $500. You won't even come close. You can't do it even with those Frankenstein builds, imagine with the small form factor cool and quiet htpc, laughable!
How much does a laptop with X performance cost? Anywhere near $500? I am giving you guys pre-mining prices. It won't make a difference, who wants to waste their time coming up with a build that comes even close?
except after building a pc you don't have to pay 60 buck a year for playing online and you have access to steam sales and also you never have to buy another pc again you just upgrade it part by part while after a new console comes out you have to pay the price of a new console
Yeah...that's why everyone kept everything in their original 486 cases
This is just too stupid to even be slightly funny.
How long since AT has been retired and ATX has been around.....? Lulz.
about as long as console gamers still pay for access to the internet on top of their internet access, still buy games on CDs, likely still have cable TV and audio cassettes they listen to from time to time and still think 1080p is something ANYONE games on anymore
@Xplode_games: Oh look... Exposed Clown is making threads again. Seriously... PC gaming is about quality and not low budget garbage hardware crammed into a little box.
@Xplode_games: Oh look... Exposed Clown is making threads again. Seriously... PC gaming is about quality and not low budget garbage hardware crammed into a little box.
we have to just keep saying that daily for about 10 years it will eventually sink for them..
A i5 4670K at 4.2Ghz doesn't run rings around a AMD 2.3Ghz bulldozer APU?...
You might need a transplant or something, every i5 at stock clocks destroys the FX series of AMD CPU's at double the clocks of the chip inside the consoles.
A 2.3Ghz bulldozer apu... Would destroy a i5 K CPU overclocked?... You know here the X1X would be on this chart below?...
My point is an i5 by itself is rather useless for gaming. You have to pair it with quite a beefy GPU in order to equal or surpass the X's performance. Maybe that's why you paired it with a $750(pre-mining) GPU?
how is it useless for gaming?
An i5 by itself. In other words, using the onboard graphics and no discrete GPU. Wouldn't you agree that an i5 is useless for gaming that way?
Get a real one, and have the considerably superior version of every game on XB1X, much much better library each year, mods, and actual competitive online.
How good is gaming typically on value PCs? This would be great phenomenal gaming at the highest level and also a full PC OS so that it can be used as a modest PC. It is a brilliant move and should be done ASAP.
A i5 4670K at 4.2Ghz doesn't run rings around a AMD 2.3Ghz bulldozer APU?...
You might need a transplant or something, every i5 at stock clocks destroys the FX series of AMD CPU's at double the clocks of the chip inside the consoles.
A 2.3Ghz bulldozer apu... Would destroy a i5 K CPU overclocked?... You know here the X1X would be on this chart below?...
My point is an i5 by itself is rather useless for gaming. You have to pair it with quite a beefy GPU in order to equal or surpass the X's performance. Maybe that's why you paired it with a $750(pre-mining) GPU?
What?... if you pair the Xbox one X GPU it would perform better than a X1X. The GTX 1080 isn't being bottlenecked by a i3 but is being bottlenecked by a FX 3.2Ghz CPU.
Where is your common sense?
Microsoft didn't have the option to add in an i5 instead of their CPU. If they added an i5(equivalent), then they would've had to have a weaker GPU to stay in the same $500 price point. The choice they made was the right one, the strongest GPU possible for the money then they beefed up the Cache and clocks on their CPU the most they could and that was it.
You're comparing it to desktop CPUs that cost over $200 for the CPU alone and GPUs that cost $750 for the GPU alone.
The absolute fruck is wrong with you?... You are the one who said your "your i5 doesn't run rings around the consoles", I prove you wrong then you respond with the money argument again?...
My lord.
The X1X in terms of price to performance is excellent, but so is every consoles... Hell the PS4 pro in terms of price to performance is even better than the X1X and actually has games that are exclusive to it.
Just stop the insecure trolling, thanks to all games being on PC that are on the Xbox One X and the fact that I use a X1 controller... My PC is essentially a Xbox One XL.
Let me see here that is quite a statement you made. The Xbox One X costs 25% more than the Playstation 4 Pro. Yet it has 40% more power, 150% the RAM and a UHD Blu-Ray Player. You really think the PS4 Pro is the better value hardware wise?
@GioVela2010: Atmos... How does it sound?... Oh wait you only had money for the TV and sub, makes sense you saved money and got a X1X to.
Don't get him started. He will start spamming pictures of his hardwood floor, 12" distance between L/C/R channels , and 18" Sub. And his superior OLED with image retention problems & all.
@GioVela2010: Atmos... How does it sound?... Oh wait you only had money for the TV and sub, makes sense you saved money and got a X1X to.
Don't get him started. He will start spamming pictures of his hardwood floor, 12" distance between L/C/R channels , and 18" Sub. And his superior OLED with image retention problems & all.
L/R are 6.5 feet apart.
my rug is 12x9 feet
Oled is superior
my 18” Subwoofer makes your female companions WET
Sorry Atmos or bust.
By not having atmos your experiencing only the visual delusion of superiority, you need both delusions to be fully xboxed.
@GioVela2010: Atmos... How does it sound?... Oh wait you only had money for the TV and sub, makes sense you saved money and got a X1X to.
Don't get him started. He will start spamming pictures of his hardwood floor, 12" distance between L/C/R channels , and 18" Sub. And his superior OLED with image retention problems & all.
L/R are 6.5 feet apart.
my rug is 12x9 feet
Oled is superior
my 18” Subwoofer makes your female companions WET
Sorry Atmos or bust.
By not having atmos your experiencing only the visual delusion of superiority, you need both delusions to be fully xboxed.
There is a reason every screen out there is not OLED. Its just like Plasma. Wait and See.
12'x9'. Great. Whats the room dimensions then? Cause theres clearly at least 2' of hardwood between that rug and your front wall.
I said Left Center Right, not just L/R.
Also, the random in-wall Polks you got for your Atmos vertical channels are probably not even close to timbre matched to the rest of your setup...
Wheres that other guy who mentioned something about getting into e-dick measuring contests on forums? Just cause you have $ doesnt mean you know anything.
Do what works for you, but dont expect other people to bow down to your cash throwing ability.
10% price to performance advantage... But has no exclusives thanks to PC, pay a $100 more to play what?...
PC + Switch + Pro is the best thing a gamer can do, exclusive AAA games on the consoles and 60FPS on the multi platform games with a PC.
You mean X1X+Switch+Pro is the best thing a gamer can do. PC has no exclusives thanks to Xbox. Excflusve AAA Games, Best Multiplats, Best HDR and Atmos Support.
@GioVela2010: Atmos... How does it sound?... Oh wait you only had money for the TV and sub, makes sense you saved money and got a X1X to.
Don't get him started. He will start spamming pictures of his hardwood floor, 12" distance between L/C/R channels , and 18" Sub. And his superior OLED with image retention problems & all.
His RUG and Subwoofer disprove Digital Foundry 100%
@GioVela2010: Atmos... How does it sound?... Oh wait you only had money for the TV and sub, makes sense you saved money and got a X1X to.
Don't get him started. He will start spamming pictures of his hardwood floor, 12" distance between L/C/R channels , and 18" Sub. And his superior OLED with image retention problems & all.
L/R are 6.5 feet apart.
my rug is 12x9 feet
Oled is superior
my 18” Subwoofer makes your female companions WET
Sorry Atmos or bust.
By not having atmos your experiencing only the visual delusion of superiority, you need both delusions to be fully xboxed.
10% price to performance advantage... But has no exclusives thanks to PC, pay a $100 more to play what?...
PC + Switch + Pro is the best thing a gamer can do, exclusive AAA games on the consoles and 60FPS on the multi platform games with a PC.
You mean X1X+Switch+Pro is the best thing a gamer can do. PC has no exclusives thanks to Xbox. Excflusve AAA Games, Best Multiplats, Best HDR and Atmos Support.
Oh God no, 30FPS when you don't have to?...
I cannot imagine playing games PUBG on the X1X, I would rather play Doom on my switch.
Don't get him started. He will start spamming pictures of his hardwood floor, 12" distance between L/C/R channels , and 18" Sub. And his superior OLED with image retention problems & all.
L/R are 6.5 feet apart.
my rug is 12x9 feet
Oled is superior
my 18” Subwoofer makes your female companions WET
Sorry Atmos or bust.
By not having atmos your experiencing only the visual delusion of superiority, you need both delusions to be fully xboxed.
There is a reason every screen out there is not OLED. Its just like Plasma. Wait and See.
12'x9'. Great. Whats the room dimensions then? Cause theres clearly at least 2' of hardwood between that rug and your front wall.
I said Left Center Right, not just L/R.
Also, the random in-wall Polks you got for your Atmos vertical channels are probably not even close to timbre matched to the rest of your setup...
Wheres that other guy who mentioned something about getting into e-dick measuring contests on forums? Just cause you have $ doesnt mean you know anything.
Do what works for you, but dont expect other people to bow down to your cash throwing ability.
I love how you posted a diagram that shows my L/R is within spec. Thanks!
Feel free to post a diagram showing how far LCR should be away from each other
The Speakers sound amazing, only sound subpar when the sectional sofa is out of the room
There is a reason every screen out there is not OLED. Its just like Plasma. Wait and See.
12'x9'. Great. Whats the room dimensions then? Cause theres clearly at least 2' of hardwood between that rug and your front wall.
I said Left Center Right, not just L/R.
Also, the random in-wall Polks you got for your Atmos vertical channels are probably not even close to timbre matched to the rest of your setup...
Wheres that other guy who mentioned something about getting into e-dick measuring contests on forums? Just cause you have $ doesnt mean you know anything.
Do what works for you, but dont expect
other people to bow down to your cash throwing ability.
I love how you posted a diagram that shows my L/R is within spec. Thanks!
Feel free to post a diagram showing how far LCR should be away from each other
The Speakers sound amazing, only sound subpar when the sectional sofa is out of the room
Love how you ignore more than half of my post too. Why is your center aimed towards the back of your ceiling? rofl. Stadium seating?
Its ok. I wouldn't feel great being called a rich idiot either.
@dxmcat said: I wouldn't feel great being called a rich idiot either.
His house is pretty small, which allows easy purchasing of electronics.
But anyway, spending around $10,000+ on a family setup like that just to play games at 15-30 fps on low, have a trash library, and no real online is silly. Spend 10% extra of that so you can actually use all those items to their full extent. He seems to just be trolling.
It's kind of like how some people spend tons of cash to make a Honda Civic look and be fast. It's still a shitty Honda Civic, and the guy in the Ferrari will still laugh at you and take your babe.
I think he meant "PS4". Anyway, consoles do beat PC's at the same pricepoint the majority of the time, but PC gamers generally aren't limited in their budgets and can afford to spend more in order to improve the performance of their games. The other option is to save and purchase both, as many true gamers do.
There is a reason every screen out there is not OLED. Its just like Plasma. Wait and See.
12'x9'. Great. Whats the room dimensions then? Cause theres clearly at least 2' of hardwood between that rug and your front wall.
I said Left Center Right, not just L/R.
Also, the random in-wall Polks you got for your Atmos vertical channels are probably not even close to timbre matched to the rest of your setup...
Wheres that other guy who mentioned something about getting into e-dick measuring contests on forums? Just cause you have $ doesnt mean you know anything.
Do what works for you, but dont expect
other people to bow down to your cash throwing ability.
I love how you posted a diagram that shows my L/R is within spec. Thanks!
Feel free to post a diagram showing how far LCR should be away from each other
The Speakers sound amazing, only sound subpar when the sectional sofa is out of the room
Love how you ignore more than half of my post too. Why is your center aimed towards the back of your ceiling? rofl. Stadium seating?
Its ok. I wouldn't feel great being called a rich idiot either.
My cieling? Seriously? at that angle the sound waves would have to travel 70-90 feet to hit a cieling
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