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#1  Edited By danabo
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Xbox One dashboard not working? O rly.

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#3  Edited By danabo
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Well, I think it looks pretty good.

EDIT: It also seems the rumours of the OS not working were unfounded.

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Looks decent (not huge into titles everywhere for everything) but I've never understood snapping things. I've always felt like it's only useful in hand full of situations that involve multimedia. I rather just be able to switch between things really fast. I'd probably only use the pins.

I'm not quite sure how the PS4 handles multitasking but its somewhat similar to the Xbox One. The traditional XMB layout is still there but the sub-menu with the panels represent games/apps. Pretty sure it's been confirmed that you can customize what's displayed as well.

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Hey, you know how you paid for this system?

And then you pay a monthly fee to use it online?

Well, that's not enough. We're putting ads prominently in the interface, just because we hate you.

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Haha perfect!

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@Nonstop-Madness said:

Looks decent (not huge into titles everywhere for everything) but I've never understood snapping things. I've always felt like it's only useful in hand full of situations that involve multimedia. I rather just be able to switch between things really fast. I'd probably only use the pins.

I'm not quite sure how the PS4 handles multitasking but its somewhat similar to the Xbox One. The traditional XMB layout is still there but the sub-menu with the panels represent games/apps. Pretty sure it's been confirmed that you can customize what's displayed as well.

It's nothing like this. You can suspend a game. Go back to dash and load an app. Which is not the same as being able to "snap". This is very well done, and I wasn't expecting it to work. Neither were many here judging by the posts about rumours of the OS not functioning, and the comments on the video MS released.

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aweeee yea look at that multitasking and speed

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@k2theswiss said:

aweeee yea look at that multitasking and speed

I'm shocked at how well it works.

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Best reply you could give to this really. I feel very sorry for any sad sap that picks their console based on the UI.

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Only thing I dislike is the damn green.

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@Big_Red_Button said:

Hey, you know how you paid for this system?

And then you pay a monthly fee to use it online?

Well, that's not enough. We're putting ads prominently in the interface, just because we hate you.

YAWN. the ad crying again... the ads on 360 are always on right corner never forced to watch or listen to, and most of them is always about video games, IF you go over to the movie tab then it's pretty much always movies and same with the music section.

ad'sare very useful to every single consumer, with out them you would most likely never know a product existing.

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Reminds me of Windows 8.

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@danabo said:

@Nonstop-Madness said:

Looks decent (not huge into titles everywhere for everything) but I've never understood snapping things. I've always felt like it's only useful in hand full of situations that involve multimedia. I rather just be able to switch between things really fast. I'd probably only use the pins.

I'm not quite sure how the PS4 handles multitasking but its somewhat similar to the Xbox One. The traditional XMB layout is still there but the sub-menu with the panels represent games/apps. Pretty sure it's been confirmed that you can customize what's displayed as well.

It's nothing like this. You can suspend a game. Go back to dash and load an app. Which is not the same as being able to "snap". This is very well done, and I wasn't expecting it to work. Neither were many here judging by the posts about rumours of the OS not functioning, and the comments on the video MS released.

Snapping is more traditional multitasking but both consoles support app switching ala mobile devices. Aside from the snapping, both handle multitasking about the same. Ex. Both consoles support pinning and suspending apps/games in the main menu. Both can also switch between recent apps without going into the menu (not sure what the limitations are). All I know about the PS4 is that double tapping the PS button allows you to switch between apps (i guess only two at a time?) without going to the main menu.

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#15  Edited By Nonstop-Madness
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Only thing I dislike is the damn green.

You can change the color of the titles but not the background.

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#16  Edited By danabo
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@Nonstop-Madness said:

Snapping is more traditional multitasking but both consoles support app switching ala mobile devices. Aside from the snapping, both handle multitasking about the same. Ex. Both consoles support pinning and suspending apps/games in the main menu. Both can also switch between recent apps without going into the menu (not sure what the limitations are). All I know about the PS4 is that double tapping the PS button allows you to switch between apps (i guess only two at a time?) without going to the main menu.

Which is nothing like this, if you take the time to watch the videos. Colour me impressed.

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@Nonstop-Madness said:
@Chutebox said:

Only thing I dislike is the damn green.

You can change the color of the titles but not the background.

Only thing that is "ugly" green is the tiles, right?

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Looks the same as the 360

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#19  Edited By Nonstop-Madness
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@Chutebox said:

@Nonstop-Madness said:
@Chutebox said:

Only thing I dislike is the damn green.

You can change the color of the titles but not the background.

Only thing that is "ugly" green is the tiles, right?

No but not sure if an apps color scheme can be changed.

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#20  Edited By Nonstop-Madness
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@danabo said:

@Nonstop-Madness said:

Snapping is more traditional multitasking but both consoles support app switching ala mobile devices. Aside from the snapping, both handle multitasking about the same. Ex. Both consoles support pinning and suspending apps/games in the main menu. Both can also switch between recent apps without going into the menu (not sure what the limitations are). All I know about the PS4 is that double tapping the PS button allows you to switch between apps (i guess only two at a time?) without going to the main menu.

Which is nothing like this, if you take the time to watch the videos. Colour me impressed.

Forget about snapping for a second. I'm simply giving my perspective on multitasking in general. This isn't the Xbox One forums so I'm obviously going to compare both consoles multitasking abilities.

I'll say it again .... aside from snapping, multitasking/app switching/suspending and resuming/whatever you want to call it is pretty similar.

EDIT seeing that the OP was amended - crashing probably depends on whats snapped and what's going on within the snapped app/game. I've had some snapped apps crash on me in Windows 8. I honestly don't think the OS is completely broken but it's a feature that's never been implemented on consoles so they'll probably be some bugs.

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Looks awful. Even worse than the 360s current dashboard somehow.

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@Nonstop-Madness said:

Forget about snapping for a second. I'm simply giving my perspective on multitasking in general. This isn't the Xbox One forums so I'm obviously going to compare both consoles multitasking abilities.

I'll say it again .... aside from snapping, multitasking/app switching/suspending and resuming/whatever you want to call it is pretty similar.

Aside from all the things that make it different, yes, it's pretty similar.

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Sony and Microsoft have to learn from this past generation. Sony should learn on how to have an operational in-game menu system and M$ needs to learn not to mess with something that isn't broken. After all, people buy systems for their games, not UI features. Remember the PS2 UI? Yea I rest my case.

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Sony and Microsoft have to learn from this past generation. Sony should learn on how to have an operational in-game menu system and M$ needs to learn not to mess with something that isn't broken. After all, people buy systems for their games, not UI features. Remember the PS2 UI? Yea I rest my case.

I was happy with my Nokia 3310 in 2000. Not so sure I would want it now.

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#25  Edited By UNcartMe
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@danabo said:

@UNcartMe said:

Sony and Microsoft have to learn from this past generation. Sony should learn on how to have an operational in-game menu system and M$ needs to learn not to mess with something that isn't broken. After all, people buy systems for their games, not UI features. Remember the PS2 UI? Yea I rest my case.

I was happy with my Nokia 3310 in 2000. Not so sure I would want it now.

Point is, the majority of gamers aren't UI whores. They just want games!

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#26  Edited By Nonstop-Madness
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@UNcartMe said:

Sony and Microsoft have to learn from this past generation. Sony should learn on how to have an operational in-game menu system and M$ needs to learn not to mess with something that isn't broken. After all, people buy systems for their games, not UI features. Remember the PS2 UI? Yea I rest my case.

The PS2 UI was pretty bare bone but tons of stuff changed since 2000. The PS2 was pre iPod era; we still lived in a world of dedicated multimedia devices. People expect a much more fleshed out UI and feature set these days.

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#27  Edited By danabo
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@UNcartMe said:

@danabo said:

@UNcartMe said:

Sony and Microsoft have to learn from this past generation. Sony should learn on how to have an operational in-game menu system and M$ needs to learn not to mess with something that isn't broken. After all, people buy systems for their games, not UI features. Remember the PS2 UI? Yea I rest my case.

I was happy with my Nokia 3310 in 2000. Not so sure I would want it now.

Point is, the majority of gamers aren't UI whores. They just want games!

The majority of people only want to make calls on their phones.

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@danabo said:

@UNcartMe said:

@danabo said:

@UNcartMe said:

Sony and Microsoft have to learn from this past generation. Sony should learn on how to have an operational in-game menu system and M$ needs to learn not to mess with something that isn't broken. After all, people buy systems for their games, not UI features. Remember the PS2 UI? Yea I rest my case.

I was happy with my Nokia 3310 in 2000. Not so sure I would want it now.

Point is, the majority of gamers aren't UI whores. They just want games!

The majority of people only want to make calls on their phones.

I disagree. That's one of the reasons why XB1 isn't going to be as successful as it would if it would have just focused on games. Cell phones are a necessity this day and age. You can do anything from online banking to Tweeting. I'm sure some people will like the XB1 features, but the business model M$ uses doesn't help since it has a pay wall.

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#29 danabo
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@UNcartMe said:

@danabo said:

@UNcartMe said:

@danabo said:

@UNcartMe said:

Sony and Microsoft have to learn from this past generation. Sony should learn on how to have an operational in-game menu system and M$ needs to learn not to mess with something that isn't broken. After all, people buy systems for their games, not UI features. Remember the PS2 UI? Yea I rest my case.

I was happy with my Nokia 3310 in 2000. Not so sure I would want it now.

Point is, the majority of gamers aren't UI whores. They just want games!

The majority of people only want to make calls on their phones.

I disagree. That's one of the reasons why XB1 isn't going to be as successful as it would if it would have just focused on games. Cell phones are a necessity this day and age. You can do anything from online banking to Tweeting. I'm sure some people will like the XB1 features, but the business model M$ uses doesn't help since it has a pay wall.

That mobile phone you use has a paywall.

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@danabo said:

@UNcartMe said:

@danabo said:

@UNcartMe said:

@danabo said:

@UNcartMe said:

Sony and Microsoft have to learn from this past generation. Sony should learn on how to have an operational in-game menu system and M$ needs to learn not to mess with something that isn't broken. After all, people buy systems for their games, not UI features. Remember the PS2 UI? Yea I rest my case.

I was happy with my Nokia 3310 in 2000. Not so sure I would want it now.

Point is, the majority of gamers aren't UI whores. They just want games!

The majority of people only want to make calls on their phones.

I disagree. That's one of the reasons why XB1 isn't going to be as successful as it would if it would have just focused on games. Cell phones are a necessity this day and age. You can do anything from online banking to Tweeting. I'm sure some people will like the XB1 features, but the business model M$ uses doesn't help since it has a pay wall.

That mobile phone you use has a paywall.

But, the majority of smartphone users find them essential. Not just for phone calls, but for everyday tasks.

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@Chutebox said:

Only thing I dislike is the damn green.

If its anything like the tiles on their phone and Surface you can change the colors for backgrounds, and tiles.

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Rumors TRCHBO!

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@UNcartMe said:

@danabo said:

@UNcartMe said:

@danabo said:

That mobile phone you use has a paywall.

But, the majority of smartphone users find them essential. Not just for phone calls, but for everyday tasks.

But they're not essential features. And they're behind a paywall, with data caps and contracts.

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@kuu2 said:

@Chutebox said:

Only thing I dislike is the damn green.

If its anything like the tiles on their phone and Surface you can change the colors for backgrounds, and tiles.

You can change the color of the tiles but not the background. I'm also not sure if an apps color scheme can be changed; the green is present in some apps (ex. Friends App).

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@danabo said:

@UNcartMe said:

@danabo said:

@UNcartMe said:

@danabo said:

That mobile phone you use has a paywall.

But, the majority of smartphone users find them essential. Not just for phone calls, but for everyday tasks.

But they're not essential features. And they're behind a paywall, with data caps and contracts.

Not really, there are many different service providers. I have Cricket which is unlimited everything for only $40 a month.

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@UNcartMe said:

@danabo said:

@UNcartMe said:

@danabo said:

@UNcartMe said:

@danabo said:

That mobile phone you use has a paywall.

But, the majority of smartphone users find them essential. Not just for phone calls, but for everyday tasks.

But they're not essential features. And they're behind a paywall, with data caps and contracts.

Not really, there are many different service providers. I have Cricket which is unlimited everything for only $40 a month.

XBL/PS+ in the states is $50 for 12 months? And you're paying $480 for 12 months. Hmm. Not sure why you would complain about such a paltry amount for access to these features.

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#37  Edited By kuu2
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@Nonstop-Madness said:

@kuu2 said:

@Chutebox said:

Only thing I dislike is the damn green.

If its anything like the tiles on their phone and Surface you can change the colors for backgrounds, and tiles.

You can change the color of the tiles but not the background. I'm also not sure if an apps color scheme can be changed; the green is present in some apps (ex. Friends App).

That would go against what MSoft has done in the past actually having themes for the background on the 36o. We will see though.

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#38  Edited By UNcartMe
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@danabo said:

@UNcartMe said:

@danabo said:

@UNcartMe said:

@danabo said:

@UNcartMe said:

@danabo said:

That mobile phone you use has a paywall.

But, the majority of smartphone users find them essential. Not just for phone calls, but for everyday tasks.

But they're not essential features. And they're behind a paywall, with data caps and contracts.

Not really, there are many different service providers. I have Cricket which is unlimited everything for only $40 a month.

XBL/PS+ in the states is $50 for 12 months? And you're paying $480 for 12 months. Hmm. Not sure why you would complain about such a paltry amount for access to these features.

Whenever I can use my XB1 or PS4 to make phone calls, access the internet, and send texts on the go while still being small enough to fit in my pocket, then I'll agree with you.

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#39 danabo
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@kuu2 said:

@Nonstop-Madness said:

@kuu2 said:

@Chutebox said:

Only thing I dislike is the damn green.

If its anything like the tiles on their phone and Surface you can change the colors for backgrounds, and tiles.

You can change the color of the tiles but not the background. I'm also not sure if an apps color scheme can be changed; the green is present in some apps (ex. Friends App).

That would go against what MSoft has done in the past actually having themes for the background on the 36o. We will see though.

PS3 had custom backgrounds, CD playback., DLNA, Linux support and so on. PS4 doesn't, but we'll see.

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@UNcartMe said:

@danabo said:

@UNcartMe said:

@danabo said:

@UNcartMe said:

@danabo said:

@UNcartMe said:

@danabo said:

That mobile phone you use has a paywall.

But, the majority of smartphone users find them essential. Not just for phone calls, but for everyday tasks.

But they're not essential features. And they're behind a paywall, with data caps and contracts.

Not really, there are many different service providers. I have Cricket which is unlimited everything for only $40 a month.

XBL/PS+ in the states is $50 for 12 months? And you're paying $480 for 12 months. Hmm. Not sure why you would complain about such a paltry amount for access to these features.

Whenever I can use my XB1 or PS4 to make phone calls, access the internet, and send texts on the go while still being small enough to fit in my pocket, then I'll agree with you.

You can do all that with Xbox One, possibly on the go with Surface.

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@danabo said:

@kuu2 said:

@Nonstop-Madness said:

@kuu2 said:

@Chutebox said:

Only thing I dislike is the damn green.

If its anything like the tiles on their phone and Surface you can change the colors for backgrounds, and tiles.

You can change the color of the tiles but not the background. I'm also not sure if an apps color scheme can be changed; the green is present in some apps (ex. Friends App).

That would go against what MSoft has done in the past actually having themes for the background on the 36o. We will see though.

PS3 had custom backgrounds, CD playback., DLNA, Linux support and so on. PS4 doesn't, but we'll see.

You know it's not the same. You still need a nother device.

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#42  Edited By danabo
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You know it's not the same. You still need a nother device.

I know what you meant to quote, so I'll reply.

I'd like to use those 'essential' features on my TV.

A $480 a year paywall vs a $50 a year paywall is quite the difference, too.

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If i get an xbone, I'm booting straight from disk and avoiding that nonsense and no way in hell would I run my cable through the box.

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If i get an xbone, I'm booting straight from disk and avoiding that nonsense and no way in hell would I run my cable through the box.

Snapping youtube/last.fm/using Skype and running a PS4 through HDMI-in sounds good to me.

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@danabo said:

@Heil68 said:

If i get an xbone, I'm booting straight from disk and avoiding that nonsense and no way in hell would I run my cable through the box.

Snapping youtube/last.fm/using Skype and running a PS4 through HDMI-in sounds good to me.

I'd go through my receiver like all my other consoles and program my Logitech remote to handle it.

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#46 danabo
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@Heil68 said:

@danabo said:

@Heil68 said:

If i get an xbone, I'm booting straight from disk and avoiding that nonsense and no way in hell would I run my cable through the box.

Snapping youtube/last.fm/using Skype and running a PS4 through HDMI-in sounds good to me.

I'd go through my receiver like all my other consoles and program my Logitech remote to handle it.

What will you use the HDMI-in for?

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#47  Edited By Heil68
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@danabo said:

@Heil68 said:

@danabo said:

@Heil68 said:

If i get an xbone, I'm booting straight from disk and avoiding that nonsense and no way in hell would I run my cable through the box.

Snapping youtube/last.fm/using Skype and running a PS4 through HDMI-in sounds good to me.

I'd go through my receiver like all my other consoles and program my Logitech remote to handle it.

What will you use the HDMI-in for?

Nothing.I have 4 HDMI's on my TV and only 1 is being used by my receiver which has 4 HMDI's in and 1 out of its own. I'll run out of room on my entertainment stand before I ever run out of HDMI connections.

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#48  Edited By danabo
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@Heil68 said:

@danabo said:

@Heil68 said:

@danabo said:

@Heil68 said:

If i get an xbone, I'm booting straight from disk and avoiding that nonsense and no way in hell would I run my cable through the box.

Snapping youtube/last.fm/using Skype and running a PS4 through HDMI-in sounds good to me.

I'd go through my receiver like all my other consoles and program my Logitech remote to handle it.

What will you use the HDMI-in for?

Nothing.I have 4 HDMI's on my TV and only 1 is being used by my receiver which has 4 HMDI's in and 1 out of its own. I'll run out of room on my entertainment stand before I ever run out of HDMI connections.

Fair enough.

I just don't see the logic in not using it, it's there, and you'll have Kinect for switching between apps and another console/device. It'll save on electricity, I suppose.

EDIT: Even if I only use it once, the idea of saying "Xbox, play PS4" amuses me.

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#49 Opus_Rea-333
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that green is fkn good looking ! bet the final version = much faster

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#50  Edited By Multipass35
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Not only is Xbox One UI a decade ahead of the PS4's UI. But Xbox live is still miles ahead as well.