Xbox One: Rushed Hardware, Games at 900p, Hardware Failures

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#52 Posted by McStrongfast (4699 posts) -

@kingoflife9 said:

@I_can_haz: look at that enormous fan, MS is making sure they don't have hardware issues. They also said xbox one is designed to last 10 years without being turned off if you so choose. I'm supposed to believe some random anonymous rumor whore? Please.

The implication that we're supposed to believe Microsoft is amusing.

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#53 Posted by aia89 (2673 posts) -

Apparently not even the PS4 will have all games running at 1080p.

Let's all get a Wii-U I guess.

–]XboxOneDev [punteggio nascosto] 2 ore fa*

"I hope you aren't fans of 1080P on Xbox One."

Is he suggesting only Xbox One games will be natively non-1080p and all PS4 games will be natively 1080p?

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#54 Edited by remiks00 (3788 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@blackace said:

NeoGaf is owned by Sony. I wouldn't believe anything they say. Last rumors I heard is final XB1 devkits were sent out sometime at the end of Aug. There have also been rumors of PS4 retail hardware overheating and crashing. Might be why they haven't sent any of them to retail with kiosks yet. Time will tell. The next year should be interesting.

Do you even read or you just go full damage control mode without reading.?

MS is admitting faulty hardware they did not deny it,they claimed it is some stress test units..

@blackace

You guys have been repeating that same bs about Neogaf forever now. lol, proof that Neogaf is owned by Sony? Do you have it? Just because there seems to be a lot of PS4 fans within that forum? I could say the same thing about Gamespot forums as well. Does that mean that System Wars is owned by Sony too? XD.

I'm not saying that CBOAT is spoutng "TRUTHFACT" (rofl), I'm just relaying the fact that Microsoft really isn't popular this time around since the reveal, so naturally, there will be more fans from the competition. You guys and you conspiracy theories are laughable.

I swear, a lot of you guys are starting to sound like MisterXMedia these days ..

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#55 Posted by mystic_knight (13801 posts) -

Hmm i certainly hope this proclamation is false. It would be a big shame if people invest in this console and it will be limited to 900p. Its very concerning. I have had thoughts of cancelling my pre order, but im going to stick it through and hope they know better than this.

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#56 Posted by Zophar87 (4344 posts) -

@kingoflife9 said:

@Zophar87 said:

@kingoflife9 said:
@I_can_haz: look at that enormous fan, MS is making sure they don't have hardware issues. They also said xbox one is designed to last 10 years without being turned off if you so choose. I'm supposed to believe some random anonymous rumor whore? Please.

Got a link to that quote?

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/162889-xbox-one-is-built-to-last-for-10-years-while-powered-on-sources-say

click here

Awesome. Thanks for the link. Hopefully what they say is true.

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#57 Posted by I_can_haz (6511 posts) -

@kingoflife9: That's a really big fan, I'm impressed but surely you don't expect me to believe that MS would admit to having faulty hardware if they did indeed have it. Why should we trust anything MS says after the whole RROD debacle?

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#58 Posted by R3FURBISHED (12350 posts) -

I see what you're selling, but I'm not buying.

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#59 Posted by remiks00 (3788 posts) -

@GravityX said:

@charizard1605 said:

*sigh*And yet it is MS who is on tour allowing you play game on consoles you can actually see.

I call bs, close this propaganda.

@GravityX Exactly, nothing but propaganda at this point. No one will know the truth until after launch anyway.

Personally, I don't believe anything is wrong the Xbone hardware. (like RROD). But I could be wrong, just have to wait and see.

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#60 Posted by nintendoboy16 (33480 posts) -

I had a bad feeling both consoles were going to have problems at launch.

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#61 Posted by CyberLips (1826 posts) -

Both consoles are bound to have issues, that's why i'm going to wait a while before i get a PS4.

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#62 Posted by NTSC-U (490 posts) -

RROD 2.0 Confirmed

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#63 Posted by kuu2 (10229 posts) -

Yes and all the X1s that are actually being played are overheating and crashing on the One Tour.

Sony mean while can't get a single unit out in the wild to be played by the public.

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#64 Posted by Krelian-co (13274 posts) -

must be a lie, we all know microsoft wouldn't rush a console to the market with flaws like the red ring of death right?

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#65 Edited by Evo_nine (2219 posts) -

ROFL cows must be bloody desperate to rely on news from CBOAT

Wow....just wow

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#66 Posted by killzowned24 (7345 posts) -

It's true. xbone won't be able to fit nextgen deferred engines in the tiny 32mb esram and will be subhd.

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#67 Posted by SonySoldier-_- (1186 posts) -

TLHBO

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#68 Edited by hrt_rulz01 (14545 posts) -

I'm a PS fan but even I'm finding this hard to believe...

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#69 Edited by Sweenix (5957 posts) -

It's the xbox 360 all over again

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#70 Posted by Caseytappy (2199 posts) -

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#71 Edited by Shmiity (6089 posts) -

Wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft's console has hardware issues. But for their sake, it better not.

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#72 Edited by Gue1 (12171 posts) -

PS4 demo booths are overheating: http://videogamescene.com/ps4-overheating-the-red-line-of-death/

I seems this is gonna be another gen with high failure rates. ;(

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#73 Edited by RageQuit4Life (526 posts) -

@Gue1 said:

PS4 demo booths are overheating: http://videogamescene.com/ps4-overheating-the-red-line-of-death/

I seems this is gonna be another gen with high failure rates. ;(

I don't see any air vent for this plastic box, this is a good way to overheat your console system.

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#74 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (18733 posts) -

@blackace said:

NeoGaf is owned by Sony. I wouldn't believe anything they say. Last rumors I heard is final XB1 devkits were sent out sometime at the end of Aug. There have also been rumors of PS4 retail hardware overheating and crashing. Might be why they haven't sent any of them to retail with kiosks yet. Time will tell. The next year should be interesting.

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#75 Posted by tdkmillsy (2551 posts) -

Xbox One is massive in size, big fan, components that give out less heat and an external PSU.

PS4 is smaller with a smaller fan, components that give out more heat and an internal PSU.

Its not rocket science which is most likely to have problems. If you think the Xbox One is going to have problems and the PS4 will be fine your in for a big surprise. Technical wizardry can only go so far and Microsoft have learnt their lesson on RROD.

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#76 Edited by sukraj (27268 posts) -

This is bullsh.t

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#77 Posted by Floppy_Jim (25834 posts) -

Sounding more and more like this console was rushed and the Feb. event took 'em by surprise. Not seeing any RROD-like disasters though.

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#78 Posted by ronvalencia (25410 posts) -

@charizard1605 said:

NeoGAF user CBOAT has drawn infamy due to his notoriously accurate leaks from within Microsoft about all things to do with their upcoming Xbox One console. Allegedly, one of his latest nuggets of insider knowledge had him stating that most Xbox One games would run at a compromised resolution of 900p, instead of the next gen 1080p that we were all looking forward to. Considering that even the Wii U hits 1080p with all of its premier games, that’s a bit sad.

CBOAT has gone on the record to say that the console is being rushed to the market, and that Microsoft have not planned the hardware properly- according to him, a 2014 release for the console would have been much suited, because as it stands now, the console will almost certainly have reliability issues like the Xbox 360′s Red Ring of Death.

The rumor spread like wildfire, and Microsoft was swift to respond:

“I actually am aware of that and know a few of them. You should know we’ve gotten many devkits throughout this past year.

The console in question [the one that CBOAT is talking about] is a zebra turned stress machine for hardware/heat issues testing.”

It might be damage control, or it might be true; given the history, both Microsoft with the Xbox 360, and CBOAT with his leaks, I’m more inclined to believe the former than the latter.

*sigh*

Microsoft could really use some good news for a change.

SOURCE

LOL downclock.....

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#79 Posted by II_Seraphim_II (20535 posts) -

To be perfectly honest, Im not worried about any Xbox overheating problems. Look at the size of the box and the size of the fan. Say what you will about MS, but they didnt get to being such a large company by making the same mistakes over and over. Im pretty sure the 1st key thing on their agenda when they designed the Xbone was to enure that another RROD like situation would never happen.

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#80 Posted by NameIess_One (1077 posts) -

@tdkmillsy said:

Xbox One is massive in size, big fan, components that give out less heat and an external PSU.

PS4 is smaller with a smaller fan, components that give out more heat and an internal PSU.

Its not rocket science which is most likely to have problems. If you think the Xbox One is going to have problems and the PS4 will be fine your in for a big surprise. Technical wizardry can only go so far and Microsoft have learnt their lesson on RROD.

This... I hope big console failure rates are a thing of the past, but looking at it now, I'm honestly more worried about the PS4, and Gue's link above is worrisome.

RRoD was very costly for MS, and I'm pretty sure they learned their lesson. With X1 having a large case with lots of vents and an external PSU, looks to me MS is doing a good job on covering all fronts to prevent overheating issues. Despite all the anti-MS stuff, I don't expect X1 to suffer any major technical issues.

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#81 Posted by killzowned24 (7345 posts) -

@ronvalencia said:

@charizard1605 said:

NeoGAF user CBOAT has drawn infamy due to his notoriously accurate leaks from within Microsoft about all things to do with their upcoming Xbox One console. Allegedly, one of his latest nuggets of insider knowledge had him stating that most Xbox One games would run at a compromised resolution of 900p, instead of the next gen 1080p that we were all looking forward to. Considering that even the Wii U hits 1080p with all of its premier games, that’s a bit sad.

CBOAT has gone on the record to say that the console is being rushed to the market, and that Microsoft have not planned the hardware properly- according to him, a 2014 release for the console would have been much suited, because as it stands now, the console will almost certainly have reliability issues like the Xbox 360′s Red Ring of Death.

The rumor spread like wildfire, and Microsoft was swift to respond:

“I actually am aware of that and know a few of them. You should know we’ve gotten many devkits throughout this past year.

The console in question [the one that CBOAT is talking about] is a zebra turned stress machine for hardware/heat issues testing.”

It might be damage control, or it might be true; given the history, both Microsoft with the Xbox 360, and CBOAT with his leaks, I’m more inclined to believe the former than the latter.

*sigh*

Microsoft could really use some good news for a change.

SOURCE

LOL downclock.....

CBOAT never said anything about a downclock lol. And what is your opinion on xbone being sub1080?

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#82 Posted by BreadNMilk (37 posts) -

If MS has issues with the X1 like with 360, Lems will defend them. MS could kill their families and Lems would defend them.

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#83 Posted by TheTruthIsREAL (809 posts) -

That is such a shame. Makes sense though. Microsoft releases a product that barely works, gets millions at launch, and millions from consumers who will be paying them to get their console fixed.

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#84 Posted by shawn30 (4390 posts) -

@GravityX said:

And yet it is MS who is on tour allowing you play game on consoles you can actually see.

I call bs, close this propaganda.

Same here. The system is being played, hands on, all over the US right now. While I do think when it comes to certain entertainment aspects that the One was set for 2014, hardware wise its doing just fine.

@McStrongfast said:

That quote is a reply to a Reddit poster, not a direct response to CBOAT's statements. And who says CBOAT's talking about dedicated stress testing machines? No one knows from where he nibbled up the info that made him concerned.

Actual response to CBOAT.

"I hope you aren't fans of 1080P on Xbox One."

Is he suggesting only Xbox One games will be natively non-1080p and all PS4 games will be natively 1080p?

"When hardware is released you'll see what I mean about issues. Upclocks too risk everywhere, 2014 was a better idea."

No I don't see what you mean, be more specific please, what issues?

"Sounds like there'll be problems a-la Xbox 360 with reliability and it was rushed out to be in 2013 rather than 2014 when planned."

I have an Xbox One here that I've had for almost a year with an uptime high of 29 days that says you're wrong.

No, that's not what he's suggesting. Note the distinct lack of mention of the PS4 or its games in that sentence.

Yes, please do be more specific.

Does it have the upclocks applied? Seems that's key to CBOAT's concerns regarding reliability.

Also, has this XboxDev person been validated as knowing what they're talking about at all, generally believed to actually have access to inside information?

So we have a full outed Xbox One dev who responds knowing full well he is putting his name on the line versus this Cboat ebonics writing so called insider who's batting 50/50 lately? I think I buy the reply of the dev who will put his name and reputation on the line. Case closed for me.

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#85 Edited by HaRmLeSS_RaGe (1330 posts) -

CBOAT would make a good "psychic" AKA cold reader

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#86 Posted by StormyJoe (7544 posts) -

@charizard1605 said:

NeoGAF user CBOAT has drawn infamy due to his notoriously accurate leaks from within Microsoft about all things to do with their upcoming Xbox One console. Allegedly, one of his latest nuggets of insider knowledge had him stating that most Xbox One games would run at a compromised resolution of 900p, instead of the next gen 1080p that we were all looking forward to. Considering that even the Wii U hits 1080p with all of its premier games, that’s a bit sad.

CBOAT has gone on the record to say that the console is being rushed to the market, and that Microsoft have not planned the hardware properly- according to him, a 2014 release for the console would have been much suited, because as it stands now, the console will almost certainly have reliability issues like the Xbox 360′s Red Ring of Death.

The rumor spread like wildfire, and Microsoft was swift to respond:

“I actually am aware of that and know a few of them. You should know we’ve gotten many devkits throughout this past year.

The console in question [the one that CBOAT is talking about] is a zebra turned stress machine for hardware/heat issues testing.”

It might be damage control, or it might be true; given the history, both Microsoft with the Xbox 360, and CBOAT with his leaks, I’m more inclined to believe the former than the latter.

*sigh*

Microsoft could really use some good news for a change.

SOURCE

What a bunch of FUD bullsh*t. Trying to compensate because of the PS4's "Red Line of Death" issues, are we?

Oh, and Forza is 1080p, so that pretty much blows that argument, too.

You cows are so paraniod over the XB1, it borderlines on hysteria.

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#87 Posted by killzowned24 (7345 posts) -

@shawn30 said:

@GravityX said:

And yet it is MS who is on tour allowing you play game on consoles you can actually see.

I call bs, close this propaganda.

Same here. The system is being played, hands on, all over the US right now. While I do think when it comes to certain entertainment aspects that the One was set for 2014, hardware wise its doing just fine.

@McStrongfast said:

That quote is a reply to a Reddit poster, not a direct response to CBOAT's statements. And who says CBOAT's talking about dedicated stress testing machines? No one knows from where he nibbled up the info that made him concerned.

Actual response to CBOAT.

"I hope you aren't fans of 1080P on Xbox One."

Is he suggesting only Xbox One games will be natively non-1080p and all PS4 games will be natively 1080p?

"When hardware is released you'll see what I mean about issues. Upclocks too risk everywhere, 2014 was a better idea."

No I don't see what you mean, be more specific please, what issues?

"Sounds like there'll be problems a-la Xbox 360 with reliability and it was rushed out to be in 2013 rather than 2014 when planned."

I have an Xbox One here that I've had for almost a year with an uptime high of 29 days that says you're wrong.

No, that's not what he's suggesting. Note the distinct lack of mention of the PS4 or its games in that sentence.

Yes, please do be more specific.

Does it have the upclocks applied? Seems that's key to CBOAT's concerns regarding reliability.

Also, has this XboxDev person been validated as knowing what they're talking about at all, generally believed to actually have access to inside information?

So we have a full outed Xbox One dev who responds knowing full well he is putting his name on the line versus this Cboat ebonics writing so called insider who's batting 50/50 lately? I think I buy the reply of the dev who will put his name and reputation on the line. Case closed for me.

His name is not on the line because it's not shown.Also you can easily call it BS when he says he had it for over a year when upclocks were recent.

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#88 Edited by TheDidact (3986 posts) -

Please don't tell me that people actually believe that GAF is owned by Sony.

And X1 is fucked. It has been for quite some time.

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#89 Edited by nini200 (11484 posts) -

Not again Microsoft lol

I'll wait to see what the failure rate of the X1 is before I call judgment on it. I'm not expecting much durability seeing as how both the Original and 360 had high failure rates.

Btw TC, I know a certain GS user that will be personally offended by this news lol I'm sure we all know who I'm referring to lol

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#90 Posted by LJS9502_basic (161925 posts) -

Not that I necessarily believe the source....but this is what they did last launch. So i wouldn't be surprised either...

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#91 Edited by killzowned24 (7345 posts) -

@nini200 said:

Not again Microsoft lol

I'll wait to see what the failure rate of the X1 is before I call judgment on it. I'm not expecting much durability seeing as how both the Original and 360 had high failure rates.

Btw TC, I know a certain GS user that will be personally offended by this news lol I'm sure we all know who I'm referring to lol

well, you could say it's clearly having trouble of some sort since they had to drop territories where it's being launched.They went from 21 to just 13 ;)

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#93 Posted by Suppaman100 (5250 posts) -

@blackace said:

NeoGaf is owned by Sony. I wouldn't believe anything they say. Last rumors I heard is final XB1 devkits were sent out sometime at the end of Aug. There have also been rumors of PS4 retail hardware overheating and crashing. Might be why they haven't sent any of them to retail with kiosks yet. Time will tell. The next year should be interesting.

"NeoGaf is owned by Sony"

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Are you serious?

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#94 Posted by killzowned24 (7345 posts) -

PS4 November launch = 32 countries

xbone=13 countries ...lol,no problem at all!!!

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#95 Posted by Animal-Mother (27350 posts) -

The only way we see these consoles is locked up in a box in some overheated store. Is anybody Really surprised we're seeing demo units locked in a box for 12 hours a day running constantly are crashing.

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#96 Posted by nini200 (11484 posts) -

@killzowned24 said:

@nini200 said:

Not again Microsoft lol

I'll wait to see what the failure rate of the X1 is before I call judgment on it. I'm not expecting much durability seeing as how both the Original and 360 had high failure rates.

Btw TC, I know a certain GS user that will be personally offended by this news lol I'm sure we all know who I'm referring to lol

well, you could say it's clearly having trouble of some sort since they had to drop territories where it's being launched.They went from 21 to just 13 ;)

Geez. I didn't know they went down to only 13 territories. That is sad

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#97 Posted by HalcyonScarlet (7917 posts) -

I find it unlikely that it's the Xbox One that will have reliability issues, given the size (venting space). And the PS4 is more compact and its RAM and GPU are likely to make more heat.

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#98 Posted by tenaka2 (17052 posts) -

@LJS9502_basic said:

Not that I necessarily believe the source....but this is what they did last launch. So i wouldn't be surprised either...

Plus, the victims didnt seem to care. All the lemmings with dead xboxs tend to lie about it on this site, or see it as not a problem.

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#99 Posted by darkangel115 (4449 posts) -

@killzowned24 said:

PS4 November launch = 32 countries

xbone=13 countries ...lol,no problem at all!!!

most of the PS4 countries have less then 10 consoles available and a price that nobody in those countries can even afford. its all marketing BS. Not to mention some countries don't even have PSN store available to them

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#100 Posted by xboxiphoneps3 (3055 posts) -

@aia89 said:

Apparently not even the PS4 will have all games running at 1080p.

Let's all get a Wii-U I guess.

–]XboxOneDev [punteggio nascosto] 2 ore fa*

"I hope you aren't fans of 1080P on Xbox One."

Is he suggesting only Xbox One games will be natively non-1080p and all PS4 games will be natively 1080p?

majority of PS4 games will be native 1080p on PS4, not on Xbox One