Xbox One: Rushed Hardware, Games at 900p, Hardware Failures

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#1  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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NeoGAF user CBOAT has drawn infamy due to his notoriously accurate leaks from within Microsoft about all things to do with their upcoming Xbox One console. Allegedly, one of his latest nuggets of insider knowledge had him stating that most Xbox One games would run at a compromised resolution of 900p, instead of the next gen 1080p that we were all looking forward to. Considering that even the Wii U hits 1080p with all of its premier games, that’s a bit sad.

CBOAT has gone on the record to say that the console is being rushed to the market, and that Microsoft have not planned the hardware properly- according to him, a 2014 release for the console would have been much suited, because as it stands now, the console will almost certainly have reliability issues like the Xbox 360′s Red Ring of Death.

The rumor spread like wildfire, and Microsoft was swift to respond:

“I actually am aware of that and know a few of them. You should know we’ve gotten many devkits throughout this past year.

The console in question [the one that CBOAT is talking about] is a zebra turned stress machine for hardware/heat issues testing.”

It might be damage control, or it might be true; given the history, both Microsoft with the Xbox 360, and CBOAT with his leaks, I’m more inclined to believe the former than the latter.

*sigh*

Microsoft could really use some good news for a change.

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#2 KBFloYd
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RIP xbox

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#3  Edited By metal_zombie
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@KBFloYd said:

RIP xbox

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#4 PhazonBlazer
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I don't think Xbone even lifts.

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#5 psymon100
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Another RROD-esque fiasco ... well, MS' PR team probably couldn't stand the heat.

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#6  Edited By blackace
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NeoGaf is owned by Sony. I wouldn't believe anything they say. Last rumors I heard is final XB1 devkits were sent out sometime at the end of Aug. There have also been rumors of PS4 retail hardware overheating and crashing. Might be why they haven't sent any of them to retail with kiosks yet. Time will tell. The next year should be interesting.

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#7 EnergyAbsorber
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And the November 22nd launch means they''ll have to rush things even more to try and fix this potential RROD version 2.0.

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#8 AmayaPapaya
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I feel like everything I hear about X box One is bad :P

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#9  Edited By GravityX
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@charizard1605 said:

NeoGAF user CBOAT has drawn infamy due to his notoriously accurate leaks from within Microsoft about all things to do with their upcoming Xbox One console. Allegedly, one of his latest nuggets of insider knowledge had him stating that most Xbox One games would run at a compromised resolution of 900p, instead of the next gen 1080p that we were all looking forward to. Considering that even the Wii U hits 1080p with all of its premier games, that’s a bit sad.

CBOAT has gone on the record to say that the console is being rushed to the market, and that Microsoft have not planned the hardware properly- according to him, a 2014 release for the console would have been much suited, because as it stands now, the console will almost certainly have reliability issues like the Xbox 360′s Red Ring of Death.

The rumor spread like wildfire, and Microsoft was swift to respond:

“I actually am aware of that and know a few of them. You should know we’ve gotten many devkits throughout this past year.

The console in question [the one that CBOAT is talking about] is a zebra turned stress machine for hardware/heat issues testing.”

It might be damage control, or it might be true; given the history, both Microsoft with the Xbox 360, and CBOAT with his leaks, I’m more inclined to believe the former than the latter.

*sigh*

Microsoft could really use some good news for a change.

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And yet it is MS who is on tour allowing you play game on consoles you can actually see.

I call bs, close this propaganda.

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@blackace said:

NeoGaf is owned by Sony. I wouldn't believe anything they say. Last rumors I heard is final XB1 devkits were sent out sometime at the end of Aug. There have also been rumors of PS4 retail hardware overheating and crashing. Might be why they haven't sent any of them to retail with kiosks yet. Time will tell. The next year should be interesting.

Do you even read or you just go full damage control mode without reading.?

MS is admitting faulty hardware they did not deny it,they claimed it is some stress test units..

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Ya, I'll wait for it to actually release

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#12  Edited By tormentos
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@GravityX said:

And yet it is MS who is on tour allowing you play game on consoles you can actually see.

I call bs, close this propaganda.

And yet the one that doesn't have a supreme shortage and that will release on 32 countries is Sony,oh did i forgot to add that just because some xbox units fails doesn't mean all will.?

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@blackace said:

NeoGaf is owned by Sony

Wat

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#14 GravityX
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@tormentos said:

@blackace said:

NeoGaf is owned by Sony. I wouldn't believe anything they say. Last rumors I heard is final XB1 devkits were sent out sometime at the end of Aug. There have also been rumors of PS4 retail hardware overheating and crashing. Might be why they haven't sent any of them to retail with kiosks yet. Time will tell. The next year should be interesting.

Do you even read or you just go full damage control mode without reading.?

MS is admitting faulty hardware they did not deny it,they claimed it is some stress test units..

However the implication that retail units will have issue is alluded to which of course MS will not allow to happen after the RROD issue with 360.

In closing nothing but bs propaganda.

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@tormentos said:

@GravityX said:

And yet it is MS who is on tour allowing you play game on consoles you can actually see.

I call bs, close this propaganda.

And yet the one that doesn't have a supreme shortage and that will release on 32 countries is Sony,oh did i forgot to add that just because some xbox units fails doesn't mean all will.?

Maybe MS should release 10 consoles each in 20 other countries to make you happy. I'm sure there are localization issues that a contributing to a staggered launch, similar to 360 i think.

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Notoriously accurate? Ha, what? The only thing he was remotely accurate with was the E3 stuff and most of what ended up being true was speculated by other sources first. I don't trust the accuracy of anyone who get's 50% or more of the stuff he says wrong.

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lol

"next gen 1080p"

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#18 Masculus
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That sounds just like something would MS would do. RROD here we go again!

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Cows are stupid........that is all

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the only bad thing about the xbox is the mandatory kinect

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Glad I'm getting a PS4

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#22  Edited By dr_jashugan
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Quick call Major Nelson to fix that! :P

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Who the hell is CBOAT?

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@kingtito said:

Cows are stupid........that is all

Agreed.

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@blackace said:

NeoGaf is owned by Sony. I wouldn't believe anything they say. Last rumors I heard is final XB1 devkits were sent out sometime at the end of Aug. There have also been rumors of PS4 retail hardware overheating and crashing. Might be why they haven't sent any of them to retail with kiosks yet. Time will tell. The next year should be interesting.

for one...proof that sony owns neogaf(yes u wont find any)

secondly show me a single report that the ps4 retail hardware is over heating and crashing.....

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The not full HD is a bit embarrassing, but after all the good will MS lost from gamers with their E3 shenanigans, How are they going to handle another RRoD? It will be a disaster.

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@GravityX said:

@tormentos said:

@GravityX said:

And yet it is MS who is on tour allowing you play game on consoles you can actually see.

I call bs, close this propaganda.

And yet the one that doesn't have a supreme shortage and that will release on 32 countries is Sony,oh did i forgot to add that just because some xbox units fails doesn't mean all will.?

Maybe MS should release 10 consoles each in 20 other countries to make you happy. I'm sure there are localization issues that a contributing to a staggered launch, similar to 360 i think.

Nothing will make tormentos happy, you should know that by now. ;P

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#28  Edited By LegatoSkyheart
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Will LOL if PS4 has a higher fail rate.

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#29 Joedgabe
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Might be possible.. however i doubt they would release something like that to the market... if this was true they would hold back on the release date. The only reason i might see it as true is because M$ didn't plan almost anything properly for the X1.. is like they Saw the PS4 was being finalized to be released and they just threw everything at it to compete with them. Even made a 180 on a lot of things before it's upcoming release.. so there's a possible chance something might go wrong.. this has been very messy for M$.

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#30  Edited By deactivated-5ba16896d1cc2
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@blackace said:

NeoGaf is owned by Sony. I wouldn't believe anything they say. Last rumors I heard is final XB1 devkits were sent out sometime at the end of Aug. There have also been rumors of PS4 retail hardware overheating and crashing. Might be why they haven't sent any of them to retail with kiosks yet. Time will tell. The next year should be interesting.

Lmao you wish, too bad they are sending out PS4's to kiosk's now, and the PS4 uses less power and runs cooler then the PS3 slim

Now you are just making things up

http://www.gamepur.com/news/12372-first-image-ps4-retail-demo-station-home-depot.html

And for the LULZ

http://www.gamechup.com/kinect-kiosk-at-gamestop-showcases-ps4-killzone-shadow-fall/

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They're selling PS4s at HOME DEPOT?

WoW - Sony's got EVERY angle covered lol

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#32  Edited By Gaming-Planet
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I don't think it will overheat, unless they cheap out on the heatsink and thermal paste. There's a ton of room in there for sufficient cooling, and silence! It's one of the reasons the Xbox Division never profited, so making that mistake again would be terrible and many would probably lose their job.

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LMFAO

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#34  Edited By Zophar87
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@blackace said:

NeoGaf is owned by Sony.

Do you have any proof of this?

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#35  Edited By Gxgear
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@blackace said:

NeoGaf is owned by Sony. I wouldn't believe anything they say. Last rumors I heard is final XB1 devkits were sent out sometime at the end of Aug. There have also been rumors of PS4 retail hardware overheating and crashing. Might be why they haven't sent any of them to retail with kiosks yet. Time will tell. The next year should be interesting.

Wow, I've never seen someone actually panics in a post before.

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The fact the Xbone premier games are running at 900p while the Wii U is doing 1080p on it's premier games is fucking embarrassing.

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@wolverine4262 said:

lol

"next gen 1080p"

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@Zophar87 said:

The fact the Xbone premier games are running at 900p while the Wii U is doing 1080p on it's premier games is fucking embarrassing.

Cause something like Ryse is totally comparable to Wind Waker HD

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CBOAT is full of crap. He has it backwards. Sony is the one having performance problems.

Anyone who reads NeoGAF can see the blatant pro-Sony bias. Anyone posting positive information about the XBox One or negative information about the PS4 is banned.

It is going to be so satisfying when both consoles are released and the Sony fans realize they have been lied to again. The XBox One has at least twice the performance of the PS4.

Multiplatform games like BF4, AC4 and COD will make this obvious to anyone with functioning eyes.

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If Sony doesn't win this gen I'm leaving SW forever. It seems to me that MS has done everything possible to sabotage the Xbone.

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#42 NFJSupreme
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lol this is obvious bullshit. If you believe this you probably have an IQ lower than room temperature.

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@bobbetybob said:

@Zophar87 said:

The fact the Xbone premier games are running at 900p while the Wii U is doing 1080p on it's premier games is fucking embarrassing.

Cause something like Ryse is totally comparable to Wind Waker HD

Pikmin 3 runs in native 1080p. Mario 3D World will most likely run in 1080p as well. Unfortunately it's still far too soon to know what resolution a game like Monolith's X will run at.

Fact remains that a console labelled as "next gen" can't even go much further than it's predecessor. Xbone has done nothing but stumble since it's announcement and it will continue to do so into next year.

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@kingoflife9 said:

@Zophar87 said:

The fact the Xbone premier games are running at 900p while the Wii U is doing 1080p on it's premier games is fucking embarrassing.

Yes because a cell shaded 10 year old zelda game is SOOOO high performing..... i dont think you realize what 1080p is or how it works.

I don't think you realize that I wasn't referring to WW HD in my post. Fact is that Xbone's premier games do not run at native 1080p when both of it's major competitors can do so.

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#46  Edited By I_can_haz
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@kingoflife9: Seems you're forgetting what forum you're on. Regardless of whether Sony win or not I'll still have fun on the PS4 but for the sake of SW they better win. MS just seems to want to fail right now for some reason. I can't believe how incompetent they are being. I'm almost starting to believe the third console curse is real.

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Sounds incredibly unlikely (after the billion dollar hit from the first RROD and the huge barrage of negativity from the pr spells... seems insane that MS would make the same mistake twice). Then again, some things just don't end up always making sense.

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#49 Zophar87
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@kingoflife9 said:
@I_can_haz: look at that enormous fan, MS is making sure they don't have hardware issues. They also said xbox one is designed to last 10 years without being turned off if you so choose. I'm supposed to believe some random anonymous rumor whore? Please.

Got a link to that quote?

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#50 deactivated-5c79c3cfce222
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That quote is a reply to a Reddit poster, not a direct response to CBOAT's statements. And who says CBOAT's talking about dedicated stress testing machines? No one knows from where he nibbled up the info that made him concerned.

Actual response to CBOAT.

"I hope you aren't fans of 1080P on Xbox One."

Is he suggesting only Xbox One games will be natively non-1080p and all PS4 games will be natively 1080p?

"When hardware is released you'll see what I mean about issues. Upclocks too risk everywhere, 2014 was a better idea."

No I don't see what you mean, be more specific please, what issues?

"Sounds like there'll be problems a-la Xbox 360 with reliability and it was rushed out to be in 2013 rather than 2014 when planned."

I have an Xbox One here that I've had for almost a year with an uptime high of 29 days that says you're wrong.

No, that's not what he's suggesting. Note the distinct lack of mention of the PS4 or its games in that sentence.

Yes, please do be more specific.

Does it have the upclocks applied? Seems that's key to CBOAT's concerns regarding reliability.

Also, has this XboxDev person been validated as knowing what they're talking about at all, generally believed to actually have access to inside information?