Xbox one cant even compete with lower end PCs? Time for a price drop.

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#1  Edited By tjandmia
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I am really surprised how bad the Witcher 3 looks on my xbox one is compared to my PC with an FX 6300 and a GTX 1050. It looks like a 360 port compared to the PC. That and the frame rate is double.

This thing is too weak for $300. MIcrosoft should discontinue this model and go Scorpio only, or drop the price of the S model to $200.

PC, medium settings vs Xbox One.

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#3 DaVillain  Moderator
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These current-gen consoles shouldn't trying to be all PC wannabes from the Gek-go!

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#4  Edited By clone01
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Okay

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#5 suicidesn0wman
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I actually expect Xbox to drop the price to $249 at E3 and have sales in the $199 range for the Holiday season. Everyone knows $199 is the sweet spot for sales in the US, the quicker MS gets to that price the more likely they can win a few months sales-wise here in the US.

Scorpio gets people talking about the brand, while X1S sits at the perfect entry price point with everyone who buys one knowing their games will work on Scorpio should they upgrade again in a year or two.

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#6 deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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Ridiculous topic, that image is obvious not exactly the same as the one on the Xbox One. Thread should be closed

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#7 MonsieurX
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You're about 3 years late

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#8 Manticored
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Should the PlayStation 4 drop its price as well? I'm pretty sure these games look identical on console with the exception of resolution.

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#9 tjandmia
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@FastRobby: Stop crying. Same location, same conditions. Same image.

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#10  Edited By deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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@tjandmia said:

@FastRobby: Stop crying. Same location, same conditions. Same image.

Yeah nice image. How many times did you reopen it in paint to save it again? It's just so transparent what you're trying to do

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#11 Archangel3371  Online
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Meh. I was quite happy playing The Witcher 3 on my Xbox One.

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#12  Edited By loe12k
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@tjandmia said:

I am really surprised how bad the Witcher 3 looks on my xbox one is compared to my PC with an FX 6300 and a GTX 1050. It looks like a 360 port compared to the PC. That and the frame rate is double.

This thing is too weak for $300. MIcrosoft should discontinue this model and go Scorpio only, or drop the price of the S model to $200.

PC, medium settings vs Xbox One.

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This a stealth attack on xbox one?

This is the game on xbox one, how this look like a 360 game?

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@MonsieurX: I legit had to check the date.

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Lol ok then... I think Witcher 3 looks great on any machine.

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@tjandmia:

Those pictures don't look that far off from each other, anyway.

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#16 loe12k
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@tjandmia said:

@FastRobby: Stop crying. Same location, same conditions. Same image.

gtx1050 is 1.8 teraflop card and uses GDDR5 memory. Comparing it to a console that's 1.3 teraflops and uses DRR3 memory is dumb.

Anyway you should know better. You can buy 2013-14 xbox one's for 200 dollars!

How much that GPU cost you? If you had to build a computer from scratch you have to buy all the components separately.

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why would you build a PC with a 1050 ? That is the real story of this thread.

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#18 PinchySkree
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@spitfire-six said:

why would you build a PC with a 1050 ? That is the real story of this thread.

Easy, it's still far more powerful than the current console garbage and its at the bottom of the price range.

Why do you feel the need to call someone out on a specific graphics card model? That's the real story of your agenda.

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#19  Edited By Spitfire-Six
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@PinchySkree said:
@spitfire-six said:

why would you build a PC with a 1050 ? That is the real story of this thread.

Easy, it's still far more powerful than the current console garbage and its at the bottom of the price range.

Why do you feel the need to call someone out on a specific graphics card model? That's the real story of your agenda.

a 1050 is barely worth a PC build. I also would not even go as far as saying its "far more powerful" considering how games are built for console vs PC. It just doesnt make sense to buy a card that will be left behind maybe before the end of this year or early next year. I am calling the poster out because he made a graphics thread boasting about the power of his GTX 1050 that barely crosses the minimum requirements. We should do a Forza Horizon 3 comparison next that will really show us.

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#20 Ant_17
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It's pretty cheap now.

Unless you want it for the price of a happy meal.

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#21  Edited By jun_aka_pekto
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The XBox One can compete favorably against my laptop (i5 3230m, GTX 660m which is equivalent to an HD5770). Between the two, I'd take the XB1 if it was portable.

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#22  Edited By FLOPPAGE_50
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@tjandmia: but you're the one crying here...

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#23 FLOPPAGE_50
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@PinchySkree said:
@spitfire-six said:

why would you build a PC with a 1050 ? That is the real story of this thread.

Easy, it's still far more powerful than the current console garbage and its at the bottom of the price range.

Why do you feel the need to call someone out on a specific graphics card model? That's the real story of your agenda.

Are you kidding me? this whole thread is an agenda to bash XB.

you call someone else out for doing exactly what the OP did, do you even read what you post?

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#24  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@hrt_rulz01 said:

Lol ok then... I think Witcher 3 looks great on any machine.

As a person who owns all the Witcher 3 on PC/PS4/Xbox One, I can say both Xbox One & PS4 versions of Witcher 3 looks great but still, PC version is still kings among kings but we both knew that lol.

Edit: Also and speaking of Witcher 3, I finally got around to playing Blood & Wine now.

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@davillain-: How amazing is Blood & Wine... its gaming perfection to me.

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#26  Edited By tjandmia
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@spitfire-six: Lemmings upset because the Xbox one can't compete with a low end video card, and that hermits are offended for using a low end card. Lol.

This PC was built in Aug 2013. The r9 270 in there stopped working. I still want to play some of the ps4/PC stuff that won't come to Xbox, and I only play on a 720p TV, so $100 for a basic card made sense, because it can do just about everything at 60fps, medium 720p. Better than both consoles.

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@tjandmia said:

@spitfire-six: Lemmings upset because the Xbox one can't compete with a low end video card, and that hermits are offended for using a low end card. Lol.

This PC was built in Aug 2013. The r9 270 in there stopped working. I still want to play some of the ps4/PC stuff that won't come to Xbox, and I only play on a 720p TV, so $100 for a basic card made sense, because it can do just about everything at 60fps, medium 720p. Better than both consoles.

The only whining I've seen in this thread is from you.

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@hrt_rulz01: At first, I thought Hearts of Stone was good but I'm enjoying Blood & Wine even more so then I thought and I just Slay that Vampire chick without giving any spoilers, I'm enjoying the landscape in Blood & Wine :)

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#29 tjandmia
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@killered3: Save for better textures, lighting, shadows, and number of on screen actors, you are right. For its power, the xbox one plays the game well enough. For it's price, $300, not so much.

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#30 tjandmia
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@loe12k: It looks good on both platforms when outside, but even a lower end pc on medium like mine has the edge on frame rate, texture quality, shadowing, foliage distance, and especially lighting.

Not saying the xbox is bad or anything. I play mine a lot, just that it really isn't worth $299 anymore.

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#31  Edited By PinchySkree
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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:
@PinchySkree said:
@spitfire-six said:

why would you build a PC with a 1050 ? That is the real story of this thread.

Easy, it's still far more powerful than the current console garbage and its at the bottom of the price range.

Why do you feel the need to call someone out on a specific graphics card model? That's the real story of your agenda.

Are you kidding me? this whole thread is an agenda to bash XB.

you call someone else out for doing exactly what the OP did, do you even read what you post?

Yes I explained how the xbox is garbage compared to a low end card and questioned why someone thinks anyone using it is "wrong".

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#32 deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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@tjandmia said:

Not saying the xbox is bad or anything. I play mine a lot, just that it really isn't worth $299 anymore.

cool, what's your gamertag?

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#33 Dakur
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More like time for a market drop. M$ is not doing anything worthwhile for the gaming industry. Better if they step down and hand it over to some other company who has a clue of what they're doing.

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#34 nepu7supastar7
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@tjandmia:

It's 100% consistency though. No graphic adjustments, just operates to the best of its abilities. At 300 dollars, you can get alot crappier of a pc.

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#35 tjandmia
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@killered3: I know I can buy an FX 6300 and an rx 460 2gb that will outperform the xbox one for around $150. If we don't count the cost of windows, I am sure I can get a mb, case, ram, and a 500gb hdd for another $150

I bought my original 500gb xbox one a few months ago refurbished by ms for $200, so it was well worth it to me. If I didn't have so much money and games invested in this pc I built almost 4 years ago, xbox one would be my main gaming platform, and when that fx 6300 start becoming more of a problem in modern games, the xbox one will be my main platform.

The Xbox One is the only console worth owning, if you ask me, because of its superior controller, but the console is overpriced for what you get.

I also agree that it's great to just pop in a game and have it work without having to even think about anything else.

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#36  Edited By nepu7supastar7
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@tjandmia:

Even at the price, you're still wrong. You can buy an Xbox One at Best Buy for 220 bucks. That's pretty damn cheap. Maybe you like to hate on its optimization but for normal people, 220 is pretty reasonable. I got mine for $230 brand new. That's not very expensive and even then, it just goes down to me being more comfortable with consoles than pc's. Pc has its market, consoles have their own.

BTW, your version of a cheap pc accumulates to $300 not counting the cost of Windows.

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@killered3: Today my pc is $300, for sure. I'm amazed that 4 years later is still outperforms the xbox one by so much!

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#38 HalcyonScarlet
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The Xbox One struggled against the GTX 750 Ti, anyone surprised it fairs worse against the GTX 1050 Ti (GTX 960)?

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#39 nepu7supastar7
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@tjandmia:

That's because it's a pc, a pc that can be modified.

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@metalslimenite said:

There's a LOT more to gaming than just power.

This, and Xbox One delivers all of that in spades. Prepare to be bedazzled by the greatest selection of games at the greatest price imaginable. Games with gold insures that Microsoft's customers are treated like royalty.

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#41 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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xbox one s = £210

PC with... FX 6300, GTX 1050, RAM, PSU, Case, HDD, os etc = £550-600

Nah, as a PC gamer I fully understand the benefits of pc gaming but console gaming is just bang for the buck entertainment that PC just cannot compete with.

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#42  Edited By FLOPPAGE_50
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@tjandmia said:

@killered3: Today my pc is $300, for sure. I'm amazed that 4 years later is still outperforms the xbox one by so much!

You're so dumb, you keep dragging yourself within your stupidity.

First of all, you're not getting a PC at best buy for 300 dollars with a GTX 1050/60.. Like if you believe this you must have a real low IQ.

2nd of all, the XB1 price tag of 220 is about accurate as you can get, plus any open box consoles can be snatched cheaper by talking to a manager.

Also, 4k blu ray player.

get rekt.

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#43 tjandmia
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@FLOPPAGE_50: no one is taking about getting a PC at Best buy for $300. Omfg lol. Your reading shit that isn't even there. Man, you're butthurt is amazing. Ahahaha!

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@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

xbox one s = £210

PC with... FX 6300, GTX 1050, RAM, PSU, Case, HDD, os etc = £550-600

Nah, as a PC gamer I fully understand the benefits of pc gaming but console gaming is just bang for the buck entertainment that PC just cannot compete with.

Yep, exactly.

@FLOPPAGE_50 said:
@tjandmia said:

@killered3: Today my pc is $300, for sure. I'm amazed that 4 years later is still outperforms the xbox one by so much!

You're so dumb, you keep dragging yourself within your stupidity.

First of all, you're not getting a PC at best buy for 300 dollars with a GTX 1050/60.. Like if you believe this you must have a real low IQ.

2nd of all, the XB1 price tag of 220 is about accurate as you can get, plus any open box consoles can be snatched cheaper by talking to a manager.

Also, 4k blu ray player.

get rekt.

Lol, well said.

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#45  Edited By rnnval
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@tjandmia: XBO S has $249 USD price tag and it doubles as 4K UHD-Blu-ray player.

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#46  Edited By tjandmia
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@rnnval: Not bad at all. Saw the Minecraft version today at BB. It was the white console. Don't know if S model or not.

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@dakur said:

More like time for a market drop. M$ is not doing anything worthwhile for the gaming industry. Better if they step down and hand it over to some other company who has a clue of what they're doing.

MS has done alot worthwhile for the gaming industry, WTF are you talking about?

Ive had more fun with the Xbox One than the POS4 lmao. MS aint going nowhere.

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#48 Dakur
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@blackout55: "Ive had more fun with the Xbox One than the POS4 lmao."

I guess you like flops.

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@tjandmia said:

@rnnval: Not bad at all. Saw the Minecraft version today at BB. It was the white console. Don't know if S model or not.

Xbox One S's 4K UHD Blu-ray player/HDMI 2.0 function is already slightly obsolete with Scorpio's 4K UHD Blu-ray player/HDMI 2.1 function.

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@dakur said:

More like time for a market drop. M$ is not doing anything worthwhile for the gaming industry. Better if they step down and hand it over to some other company who has a clue of what they're doing.

Microsoft has a vision for the industry that haters like you can not fathom.