xbox one 5+ millions sold PS4 9 million.?

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#101 Edited by SambaLele (5552 posts) -

@Salt_The_Fries: PS3: more expensive, equal (~ a bit stronger) hardware. Launched a year late. Bashed because it was too expensive and because people thought Blu-ray was unnecessary. Sony sticked to it, and BD won the format war against HD-DVD, thus becoming a selling point. Managed to gradually pick up to where the other standed, and eventually surpassed 360's sales worldwide. Can the X1 repeat this feat? It's possible, let's see:

X1: more expensive (not anymore), weaker hardware. Got great backlash due to restrictive policies + higher price at launch + mandatory Kinect. MS didn't stick to the policies, dropped Kinect (potential selling point), brand image may have been affected (too early to tell).

It's not the same situation. X1 is in a lot more trouble than the PS3 was at the time. It's got no obvious advantages over the other like the PS3 had. Also, it hasn't any different feature, like the PS3 had BD. To finish... weaker hardware, same price. This isn't taking into account those that won't buy the console because of the announced draconian policies...

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#102 Posted by R3FURBISHED (12396 posts) -

@blackace said:

@alcapello said:

Come Bloodborne, it will be like the boom of the great depression.

Lemmings will be outing xboxs while cursing microsoft.

You are delusional. Bloodborne isn't going to do much. It's a niche market for games like that. Stop putting all your cards on one game. The Witcher 3 and Uncharted 4 which crush that game in sales pretty easily.

I don't know about The Witcher 3 being a big sales game. Bloodborne will probably not sell all that well either -- Dark Souls 2 sold a bit over 1 million.

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#103 Posted by PS4hasNOgames (2620 posts) -

damn thats a lot of ps4's sold. it really is a beast of a console.

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#105 Edited by Daious (2315 posts) -

@R3FURBISHED said:

@blackace said:

@alcapello said:

Come Bloodborne, it will be like the boom of the great depression.

Lemmings will be outing xboxs while cursing microsoft.

You are delusional. Bloodborne isn't going to do much. It's a niche market for games like that. Stop putting all your cards on one game. The Witcher 3 and Uncharted 4 which crush that game in sales pretty easily.

I don't know about The Witcher 3 being a big sales game. Bloodborne will probably not sell all that well either -- Dark Souls 2 sold a bit over 1 million.

Edit Twice:

Actually the 1.2 million sales figure was what Dark Souls 2 sold just in march. They sold 1.2 million in about 2-3 weeks with versions of the game not released until late april. That is pretty great numbers.

I would say its well past 2 million now.

Witcher series is probably at 7 million now.

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#106 Edited by Daious (2315 posts) -

@blackace said:

@alcapello said:

Come Bloodborne, it will be like the boom of the great depression.

Lemmings will be outing xboxs while cursing microsoft.

You are delusional. Bloodborne isn't going to do much. It's a niche market for games like that. Stop putting all your cards on one game. The Witcher 3 and Uncharted 4 which crush that game in sales pretty easily.

I am pretty sure the Dark Souls 2 selling faster than any other Witcher title. Dark souls 2 (ps3/360) units sold in one month match what Witcher 2 on PC/360 did in a year.

Dark Souls series is not a niche market. Sales prove otherwise. Please do some research before posting next time.

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#107 Edited by RepetitiousV2 (74 posts) -

@daious:

sales prove it is a niche market imo, i mean a MULTIPLAT that can barely break 2 million....thats weak. the souls community is small. now bloodbourne, with a fresh name,and as long as reviews are positive and they dont market it like another souls game, which bloodbourne basically is. i can see a boost in sales but it wont be a TLOU or gears or halo.

and if TW3 continues to look like a cd project version of skyrim, its gonna attract a lot more ppl on xbox this time around.

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#108 Edited by david61983 (288 posts) -

It needs a $100 price drop immediately or it's over for the Xbone.

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#109 Posted by RepetitiousV2 (74 posts) -

@david61983:

get real dude, its not going anywhere.

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#110 Edited by lostrib (49999 posts) -

so any actual announcement from sony?

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#111 Posted by Mozelleple112 (6960 posts) -

#SDC

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#112 Edited by delta3074 (19951 posts) -

Remember when the PS3 was 'only' 4 million units behind the 360?

When the Ps3 was only 4 million behind the Xbox 360 the Gap was 'very small'

Now the Xbone is only 4 million behind the Ps4 it's a huge gap.

At 5 million the Xbone is still selling reasonably well but gotta admit that 9 million this fast is pretty good going for SONY, kudos to them,hopefully the PS4 can save SONY from there financial woes.

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#113 Edited by bublover1 (133 posts) -

@delta3074 said:

Remember when the PS3 was 'only' 4 million units behind the 360?

When the Ps3 was only 4 million behind the Xbox 360 the Gap was 'very small'

Now the Xbone is only 4 million behind the Ps4 it's a huge gap.

At 5 million the Xbone is still selling reasonably well but gotta admit that 9 million this fast is pretty good going for SONY, kudos to them,hopefully the PS4 can save SONY from there financial woes.

Microsoft clarified that the 5 million figure was shipped numbers, not sold.

PS4 is probably leading Xbone sales by 2:1. LOL at mems and RR360DD thinking that the sales ratio wouldn't reach 2:1. It's only gonna get worse from here.

Also, no one thought the PS3 trailing the 360 by a few million units was a big deal because the PS3 had EU and Japan to fall back on. See, the difference is that the 360 had a 10 million lead when the PS3 released and the gap was closing every single day.

Last gen's case is completely different to what's happening now, as the gap is NOT closing but increasing every day.

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#114 Edited by tormentos (26637 posts) -

@ProjectPat187 said:

SW biggest cow, Sony's biggest nuthugger just doing what he does best, praise Sony. Any other news besides getting a hard on for PS4 sales?

How am i praising sony by just posting something i saw.?

Have i say TEH MS is Doom or any crap like that.?

So is just another case of let me hate Tormentos who owns me like few people have..hahahaha...

@heretrix said:

Whoo! So that means there are more than 9 million people who bought a 400 dollar console with a shit library?

Yay?

Yep and since no console in the history has even come on release with 800 games well all console gamers just don't give a fu** they know the games will come and since most people play MULTIPLATFORMS they don't even care,Call of Duty is in.? BF is in.? AC is in.? They are in..

@Shewgenja said:

Okay, I'll cut the SW crap and speak plain English.

Basically, Bungie sold the IP rights to Halo to MS in exchange for self-ownership. Both sides got what they want out of the deal. MS got their one and only property of Bungie and didn't get dragged through the mud publicly by pissing off and running off the creators of Halo which would have been bad PR. Bungie got their autonomy. Make no mistake about it, though. Money exchanged hands and MS sold their ownership in Bungie. Bungie is only in partnership with Activision for publishing rights to Destiny. There is no exchange of management or ownership in that deal the way MS acquired Bungie originally.

See, I can explain my position on this. Fact of the matter remains, though. MS is down a development house (their biggest and most effective one at that) going into Generation 8. Much to the chagrin of @cainetao11 and co, who want to beat up on the ghosts of Cows who did not call out the pathetic argument that somehow MS will mystically come from behind the way Sony did in Gen7. Sorry guys, you don't have a perfect 10 rated game like MGS4 or the NaughtyDog Sauce. Just saying.

In fact, one could say a white PS4 bundled with Bungies next game is a sniper rifle aimed straight at the head of the fanbase that made the 360.

Spot on man...

Only a real moron would believe that MS would allow Bungie to walk free,there was an exchange of something,if it was up to MS they would love to have Destiny even as so call console exclusive even if it was on PC as well,we all know that.

Yep they actually believe that the xbox 360 vs PS3 will apply this gen,from where the fu** MS will get the sales to catch up with the PS4 only lemmings know,since Japan is even more irrelevant now than it was last gen,it has basically move to portable and cell phones,and EU and an US are been dominated by Sony,even if MS win this month NPD it would mean nothing as many people held back on buying an xbox one waiting for the kinectless sku,and still you see places like Amazon where the PS4 still is walking all over the xbox one in sales,to the point where is not even close,PS4 in the top 20 the xbox like 48 or some sh** like that.

believing blindly that the XBO will catch the PS4 because the PS3 did it with the 360 is a joke.

@WilliamRLBaker said:

Oh El morono you idiot sheen you I see you are pulling Sony numbers out your analytical ass again.

I can just imagine you so pissed off that you cannot post vgchartz numbers.

No i pull them from the article you red bearded hillbilly...

@Phazevariance said:

Defeats tormentos thread on first reply. Well done sir.

Explain how because no one else have been able to do so..hahahaha

@hrt_rulz01 said:

Doesn't mean sh**. PS3 was further behind last gen than XBone and still won.

Next.

The PS3 was the successor to the biggest and best selling console ever release,the xbox 360 wasn't,the xbox 360 sold well in US,it sold like utter sh** in Japan and was over took in mainland EU as well which is Sony territory.

So it was US+UK vs Japan + Mainland EU so there was a balance and sony was able to catch MS.

Now the xbox one is losing every where it is out,and the remaining countries for release are not xbox countries either,so they have nothing to make the difference from,go back to school and learn basic math is all you need to know is not the same or even close to what is happening now.

MS is losing in US its biggest market by far...

@y7jzdgy said:

Bullshit. The PS3 started 1 year late, 10 million consoles down, $200 more and with almost no games. It took almost 8 years but the PS3 still caught up. The X1 will be launching in significantly more countries this September which will finally put them on par with the PS4 in that respect.

With the recent news of a cheaper non-Kinect sku, app's no longer behind a pay wall and Games for Gold modeled after PS+ there is no reason why the X1 couldn't catch the PS4. Not to mention MS are pushing bigger budget games while Sony are pushing indies. Full exclusive games will be the big deciding factor between these two systems and my money is on the X1 all the way.

The countries MS will release in are sony countries,that is what you fail miserable to see,if MS is losing US which is by far their biggest market what the fu** do you think will happen in Japan,and countries other countries where the xbox brand mean exactly sh**.

Open your eyes MS has nothing to counter with it is losing US,their only hope for keeping close they are losing it,the PS4 is some 4 million ahead while both consoles released at the same time,The PS3 was $600 and yet worldwide the PS3 actually outsold the xbox 360,the 360 did better in US and UK,but Japan and the rest of enough pushed the PS3 enough to actually beat MS yearly sales by a small margin even that it was $600.

The xbox one was just $100 more and failed miserably to stay close,the gap is closing to 2 to1,and the xbox one has no market from where to close the gap..

So please tell me what countries will help MS close the gap,i want names please name then Japan.? Argentina.? Which would make the xbox close that gap,because MS is losing US right now.

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#115 Posted by blackace (23576 posts) -

@daious said:

@R3FURBISHED said:

@blackace said:

@alcapello said:

Come Bloodborne, it will be like the boom of the great depression.

Lemmings will be outing xboxs while cursing microsoft.

You are delusional. Bloodborne isn't going to do much. It's a niche market for games like that. Stop putting all your cards on one game. The Witcher 3 and Uncharted 4 which crush that game in sales pretty easily.

I don't know about The Witcher 3 being a big sales game. Bloodborne will probably not sell all that well either -- Dark Souls 2 sold a bit over 1 million.

Edit Twice:

Actually the 1.2 million sales figure was what Dark Souls 2 sold just in march. They sold 1.2 million in about 2-3 weeks with versions of the game not released until late april. That is pretty great numbers.

I would say its well past 2 million now.

Witcher series is probably at 7 million now.

Yeah, but Dark Souls 2 was multiplat and had a 160+ million user base who could buy it, so that's actually not very good. The PS4 only has 8+ million sold and there's no way this game is going to sell 2+ million in 2-3 months on the PS4 alone. Witcher 3 and Uncharted 4 will easily out sell it and help to push more PS4's then Bloodborne ever will.

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#116 Edited by tonitorsi (8685 posts) -

@W1NGMAN- said:

@dotWithShoes said:

@scottpsfan14 said:

@-Damien- said:

Almost double!! TLHBO!

Playstation Nation Domination Continuation

Hashtag!

Its funny, only when Sony is 'winning' the sales war, do sales actually matter.

and only when sony is "winning" the sales war, do sales actually not matter.

#Wingmayne preaching it with them zero f#cks!

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#117 Edited by tonitorsi (8685 posts) -

@cainetao11 said:

It sales. This is serious!

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#118 Edited by sts106mat (24190 posts) -

@tonitorsi said:

@W1NGMAN- said:

@dotWithShoes said:

@scottpsfan14 said:

@-Damien- said:

Almost double!! TLHBO!

Playstation Nation Domination Continuation

Hashtag!

Its funny, only when Sony is 'winning' the sales war, do sales actually matter.

and only when sony is "winning" the sales war, do sales actually not matter.

#Wingmayne preaching it with them zero f#cks!

Don't start that tired shit. fuckin reaction Gifs should be banned

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#120 Posted by tormentos (26637 posts) -

@delta3074 said:

Remember when the PS3 was 'only' 4 million units behind the 360?

When the Ps3 was only 4 million behind the Xbox 360 the Gap was 'very small'

Now the Xbone is only 4 million behind the Ps4 it's a huge gap.

At 5 million the Xbone is still selling reasonably well but gotta admit that 9 million this fast is pretty good going for SONY, kudos to them,hopefully the PS4 can save SONY from there financial woes.

36 vs 32 3 and a half years into the gen,is not the same as 9 million vs 5 million 8 months into the gen...

Even % wise they are completely different 9 vs 5 is almost 2 to 1,36 vs 32 is not even close to that %.

Do % for both numbers and see what you get...

And ending like that is what really show your butthurt lemming ass for all to see,since you can't downplay the numbers you resort to bring sony financials Blackace style..hahahaha

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#121 Edited by sts106mat (24190 posts) -

@scottpsfan14: sales sting? I own both machines dude, I am immune to sales sting

I just think people posting reaction gifs just for the sake of it are annoying. they are basically hunting for something on a thread so they can post a stupid GIF that 99 times out of 100 dont have anything to do with the topic and aren't funny.

There have been a couple of great GIFs but this spamming them one of the other is stupid.

Q. What does a cat swiping its paw, have to do with a picture of spiderman?

A. **** all.

They are spam

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#122 Edited by bublover1 (133 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@delta3074 said:

Remember when the PS3 was 'only' 4 million units behind the 360?

When the Ps3 was only 4 million behind the Xbox 360 the Gap was 'very small'

Now the Xbone is only 4 million behind the Ps4 it's a huge gap.

At 5 million the Xbone is still selling reasonably well but gotta admit that 9 million this fast is pretty good going for SONY, kudos to them,hopefully the PS4 can save SONY from there financial woes.

36 vs 32 3 and a half years into the gen,is not the same as 9 million vs 5 million 8 months into the gen...

Even % wise they are completely different 9 vs 5 is almost 2 to 1,36 vs 32 is not even close to that %.

Do % for both numbers and see what you get...

And ending like that is what really show your butthurt lemming ass for all to see,since you can't downplay the numbers you resort to bring sony financials Blackace style..hahahaha

It's not even 5. MS confirmed that the 5 million figure was shipped. It's likely at 4.5 million. SONY is around 9.5 million.

Lems are butthurt about it and are damage controlling.

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#124 Edited by sts106mat (24190 posts) -

@scottpsfan14 said:
@sts106mat said:

@scottpsfan14: sales sting? I own both machines dude, I am immune to sales sting

I just think people posting reaction gifs just for the sake of it are annoying. they are basically hunting for something on a thread so they can post a stupid GIF that 99 times out of 100 dont have anything to do with the topic and aren't funny.

There have been a couple of great GIFs but this spamming them one of the other is stupid.

Q. What does a cat swiping its paw, have to do with a picture of spiderman?

A. **** all.

They are spam

Why does it even bother you thou? You are a raging lem and you know it. IDGAF if you own a PS4. Just take a seat son.

Because i dont like useless spam

I am not a raging lem, i am playing my PS4 more at the moment, i dont care who wins.

"just take a seat son" - yeah cause if i was a kid, you arguing with me would make you so mature right?

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#126 Edited by tonitorsi (8685 posts) -

The serious bisness, is real in this thread.

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#127 Posted by ProjectPat187 (2069 posts) -

@SambaLele said:

@Salt_The_Fries: PS3: more expensive, equal (~ a bit stronger) hardware. Launched a year late. Bashed because it was too expensive and because people thought Blu-ray was unnecessary. Sony sticked to it, and BD won the format war against HD-DVD, thus becoming a selling point. Managed to gradually pick up to where the other standed, and eventually surpassed 360's sales worldwide. Can the X1 repeat this feat? It's possible, let's see:

X1: more expensive (not anymore), weaker hardware. Got great backlash due to restrictive policies + higher price at launch + mandatory Kinect. MS didn't stick to the policies, dropped Kinect (potential selling point), brand image may have been affected (too early to tell).

It's not the same situation. X1 is in a lot more trouble than the PS3 was at the time. It's got no obvious advantages over the other like the PS3 had. Also, it hasn't any different feature, like the PS3 had BD. To finish... weaker hardware, same price. This isn't taking into account those that won't buy the console because of the announced draconian policies...

This is false.

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#129 Posted by blackace (23576 posts) -

@bublover1 said:

It's not even 5. MS confirmed that the 5 million figure was shipped. It's likely at 4.5 million. SONY is around 9.5 million.

Lems are butthurt about it and are damage controlling.

You do realize that the 9 million sale is just a guesstimate from the article creator right? lol!! That is not official numbers from Sony. Also, Microsoft's 5 million shipped was announced was announced back in April. It's July now, which means they are well over 5 million sold by now. A better guesstimate would be XB1 5-5.2 million and PS4 8-8.5 million sold.

As for the PS3 and XBox 360. Microsoft announced 84 million 360 sold at the E3. Sony is still at 80 million. They said nothing about their PS3 sales at the E3.

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#130 Edited by Daious (2315 posts) -

@blackace said:

@daious said:

@R3FURBISHED said:

@blackace said:

@alcapello said:

Come Bloodborne, it will be like the boom of the great depression.

Lemmings will be outing xboxs while cursing microsoft.

You are delusional. Bloodborne isn't going to do much. It's a niche market for games like that. Stop putting all your cards on one game. The Witcher 3 and Uncharted 4 which crush that game in sales pretty easily.

I don't know about The Witcher 3 being a big sales game. Bloodborne will probably not sell all that well either -- Dark Souls 2 sold a bit over 1 million.

Edit Twice:

Actually the 1.2 million sales figure was what Dark Souls 2 sold just in march. They sold 1.2 million in about 2-3 weeks with versions of the game not released until late april. That is pretty great numbers.

I would say its well past 2 million now.

Witcher series is probably at 7 million now.

Yeah, but Dark Souls 2 was multiplat and had a 160+ million user base who could buy it, so that's actually not very good.

It is sad to know that you are not joking. You were wrong about Dark Souls being a niche franchise. End of story.

The witcher series aren't powerhouse sellers. They are fantastic games. They definitely have legs. I hope the best for them with the 3rd entry.

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#131 Posted by LJS9502_basic (162509 posts) -

@blackace said:

@bublover1 said:

It's not even 5. MS confirmed that the 5 million figure was shipped. It's likely at 4.5 million. SONY is around 9.5 million.

Lems are butthurt about it and are damage controlling.

You do realize that the 9 million sale is just a guesstimate from the article creator right? lol!! That is not official numbers from Sony. Also, Microsoft's 5 million shipped was announced was announced back in April. It's July now, which means they are well over 5 million sold by now. A better guesstimate would be XB1 5-5.2 million and PS4 8-8.5 million sold.

As for the PS3 and XBox 360. Microsoft announced 84 million 360 sold at the E3. Sony is still at 80 million. They said nothing about their PS3 sales at the E3.

LOL...telling him his figures are guesses while posting your own guesses.

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#132 Posted by ProjectPat187 (2069 posts) -

@scottpsfan14 said:
@ProjectPat187 said:

@SambaLele said:

@Salt_The_Fries: PS3: more expensive, equal (~ a bit stronger) hardware. Launched a year late. Bashed because it was too expensive and because people thought Blu-ray was unnecessary. Sony sticked to it, and BD won the format war against HD-DVD, thus becoming a selling point. Managed to gradually pick up to where the other standed, and eventually surpassed 360's sales worldwide. Can the X1 repeat this feat? It's possible, let's see:

X1: more expensive (not anymore), weaker hardware. Got great backlash due to restrictive policies + higher price at launch + mandatory Kinect. MS didn't stick to the policies, dropped Kinect (potential selling point), brand image may have been affected (too early to tell).

It's not the same situation. X1 is in a lot more trouble than the PS3 was at the time. It's got no obvious advantages over the other like the PS3 had. Also, it hasn't any different feature, like the PS3 had BD. To finish... weaker hardware, same price. This isn't taking into account those that won't buy the console because of the announced draconian policies...

This is false.

Is it? Where do you get your numbers? Just interested?

Where do you get your numbers that the PS3 has passed the 360? Im also interested.

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#133 Edited by Suppaman100 (5250 posts) -

@blackace said:

@bublover1 said:

It's not even 5. MS confirmed that the 5 million figure was shipped. It's likely at 4.5 million. SONY is around 9.5 million.

Lems are butthurt about it and are damage controlling.

You do realize that the 9 million sale is just a guesstimate from the article creator right? lol!! That is not official numbers from Sony. Also, Microsoft's 5 million shipped was announced was announced back in April. It's July now, which means they are well over 5 million sold by now. A better guesstimate would be XB1 5-5.2 million and PS4 8-8.5 million sold.

As for the PS3 and XBox 360. Microsoft announced 84 million 360 sold at the E3. Sony is still at 80 million. They said nothing about their PS3 sales at the E3.

LOL if you think PS3 is still at 80 mil. PS3 has overtaken 360 since it always dominated in europe and Japan and did a bit worse than 360 in the US.

Anyway PS4 is manhandling Xbone in sales...and everything else.

TLHBO

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#135 Posted by blackace (23576 posts) -

@daious said:

@blackace said:

@daious said:

@R3FURBISHED said:

@blackace said:

@alcapello said:

Come Bloodborne, it will be like the boom of the great depression.

Lemmings will be outing xboxs while cursing microsoft.

You are delusional. Bloodborne isn't going to do much. It's a niche market for games like that. Stop putting all your cards on one game. The Witcher 3 and Uncharted 4 which crush that game in sales pretty easily.

I don't know about The Witcher 3 being a big sales game. Bloodborne will probably not sell all that well either -- Dark Souls 2 sold a bit over 1 million.

Edit Twice:

Actually the 1.2 million sales figure was what Dark Souls 2 sold just in march. They sold 1.2 million in about 2-3 weeks with versions of the game not released until late april. That is pretty great numbers.

I would say its well past 2 million now.

Witcher series is probably at 7 million now.

Yeah, but Dark Souls 2 was multiplat and had a 160+ million user base who could buy it, so that's actually not very good.

It is sad to know that you are not joking

No, I'm not joking when games like GTA V and CoD sell over 15 million units with the same userbase. lol!! 2 million ain't shit for a 160+ million userbase. Get a clue you delusional troll. Even Uncharted 3, Forza 4, TLOU sold more copies and they aren't even multiplats.

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#136 Posted by ProjectPat187 (2069 posts) -

@scottpsfan14 said:
@ProjectPat187 said:

@scottpsfan14 said:
@ProjectPat187 said:

@SambaLele said:

@Salt_The_Fries: PS3: more expensive, equal (~ a bit stronger) hardware. Launched a year late. Bashed because it was too expensive and because people thought Blu-ray was unnecessary. Sony sticked to it, and BD won the format war against HD-DVD, thus becoming a selling point. Managed to gradually pick up to where the other standed, and eventually surpassed 360's sales worldwide. Can the X1 repeat this feat? It's possible, let's see:

X1: more expensive (not anymore), weaker hardware. Got great backlash due to restrictive policies + higher price at launch + mandatory Kinect. MS didn't stick to the policies, dropped Kinect (potential selling point), brand image may have been affected (too early to tell).

It's not the same situation. X1 is in a lot more trouble than the PS3 was at the time. It's got no obvious advantages over the other like the PS3 had. Also, it hasn't any different feature, like the PS3 had BD. To finish... weaker hardware, same price. This isn't taking into account those that won't buy the console because of the announced draconian policies...

This is false.

Is it? Where do you get your numbers? Just interested?

Where do you get your numbers that the PS3 has passed the 360? Im also interested.

Link to a post where I say that XD

Who said you said anything? I simply asked you a question.

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#138 Edited by ProjectPat187 (2069 posts) -

@scottpsfan14 said:
@ProjectPat187 said:

@scottpsfan14 said:
@ProjectPat187 said:

@scottpsfan14 said:
@ProjectPat187 said:

@SambaLele said:

@Salt_The_Fries: PS3: more expensive, equal (~ a bit stronger) hardware. Launched a year late. Bashed because it was too expensive and because people thought Blu-ray was unnecessary. Sony sticked to it, and BD won the format war against HD-DVD, thus becoming a selling point. Managed to gradually pick up to where the other standed, and eventually surpassed 360's sales worldwide. Can the X1 repeat this feat? It's possible, let's see:

X1: more expensive (not anymore), weaker hardware. Got great backlash due to restrictive policies + higher price at launch + mandatory Kinect. MS didn't stick to the policies, dropped Kinect (potential selling point), brand image may have been affected (too early to tell).

It's not the same situation. X1 is in a lot more trouble than the PS3 was at the time. It's got no obvious advantages over the other like the PS3 had. Also, it hasn't any different feature, like the PS3 had BD. To finish... weaker hardware, same price. This isn't taking into account those that won't buy the console because of the announced draconian policies...

This is false.

Is it? Where do you get your numbers? Just interested?

Where do you get your numbers that the PS3 has passed the 360? Im also interested.

Link to a post where I say that XD

Who said you said anything? I simply asked you a question.

I never claimed any sales numbers of PS3. I'm asking you where you got your numbers.

And what sales numbers did I claim? Again im also asking you where did you get your numbers? You asked me about where I get my numbers but you didnt ask him so you obviously agree with him that the PS3 sold more than the 360, which I have never heard or seen any source besides cows claim this is true.

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#139 Edited by Daious (2315 posts) -

@blackace said:

@daious said:

@blackace said:

@daious said:

@R3FURBISHED said:

@blackace said:

@alcapello said:

Come Bloodborne, it will be like the boom of the great depression.

Lemmings will be outing xboxs while cursing microsoft.

You are delusional. Bloodborne isn't going to do much. It's a niche market for games like that. Stop putting all your cards on one game. The Witcher 3 and Uncharted 4 which crush that game in sales pretty easily.

I don't know about The Witcher 3 being a big sales game. Bloodborne will probably not sell all that well either -- Dark Souls 2 sold a bit over 1 million.

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Actually the 1.2 million sales figure was what Dark Souls 2 sold just in march. They sold 1.2 million in about 2-3 weeks with versions of the game not released until late april. That is pretty great numbers.

I would say its well past 2 million now.

Witcher series is probably at 7 million now.

Yeah, but Dark Souls 2 was multiplat and had a 160+ million user base who could buy it, so that's actually not very good.

It is sad to know that you are not joking

No, I'm not joking when games like GTA V and CoD sell over 15 million units with the same userbase. lol!! 2 million ain't shit for a 160+ million userbase. Get a clue you delusional troll. Even Uncharted 3, Forza 4, TLOU sold more copies and they aren't even multiplats.

Selling a over a million in two-three weeks is not a niche franchise. You don't have to sell as much as UC, GTA, or those franchises to not be consider a niche franchise. You didn't do your research and I contested your statement. You are the one that was clearly wrong. End of story.

Its very nice that you resorted to name calling.

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#141 Posted by blackace (23576 posts) -

@LJS9502_basic said:

@blackace said:

@bublover1 said:

It's not even 5. MS confirmed that the 5 million figure was shipped. It's likely at 4.5 million. SONY is around 9.5 million.

Lems are butthurt about it and are damage controlling.

You do realize that the 9 million sale is just a guesstimate from the article creator right? lol!! That is not official numbers from Sony. Also, Microsoft's 5 million shipped was announced was announced back in April. It's July now, which means they are well over 5 million sold by now. A better guesstimate would be XB1 5-5.2 million and PS4 8-8.5 million sold.

As for the PS3 and XBox 360. Microsoft announced 84 million 360 sold at the E3. Sony is still at 80 million. They said nothing about their PS3 sales at the E3.

LOL...telling him his figures are guesses while posting your own guesses.

At least I admit I'm making a guess. You idiots are thinking his guesses are fact. lmao!! Sony hasn't provided any updated sales figures yet. Don't be delusional.

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@blackace said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@blackace said:

@bublover1 said:

It's not even 5. MS confirmed that the 5 million figure was shipped. It's likely at 4.5 million. SONY is around 9.5 million.

Lems are butthurt about it and are damage controlling.

You do realize that the 9 million sale is just a guesstimate from the article creator right? lol!! That is not official numbers from Sony. Also, Microsoft's 5 million shipped was announced was announced back in April. It's July now, which means they are well over 5 million sold by now. A better guesstimate would be XB1 5-5.2 million and PS4 8-8.5 million sold.

As for the PS3 and XBox 360. Microsoft announced 84 million 360 sold at the E3. Sony is still at 80 million. They said nothing about their PS3 sales at the E3.

LOL...telling him his figures are guesses while posting your own guesses.

At least I admit I'm making a guess. You idiots are thinking his guesses are fact. lmao!! Sony hasn't provided any updated sales figures yet. Don't be delusional.

5 million shipped still. Confirmed by MS. Xbone isn't selling well, so stores aren't buying any more.

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#144 Posted by blackace (23576 posts) -

@daious said:

@blackace said:

@daious said:

It is sad to know that you are not joking

No, I'm not joking when games like GTA V and CoD sell over 15 million units with the same userbase. lol!! 2 million ain't shit for a 160+ million userbase. Get a clue you delusional troll. Even Uncharted 3, Forza 4, TLOU sold more copies and they aren't even multiplats.

Selling a over a million in two-three weeks is not a niche franchise. You don't have to sell as much as UC, GTA, or those franchises to not be consider a niche franchise. You didn't do your research and I contested your statement. You are the one that was clearly wrong. End of story.

Its very nice that you resorted to name calling.

I'm not wrong. There are games that have sold over 3 million copies in one day on one platform. 2 million in 2-3 months on multiplats systems is nothing. Especially when the biggest amount of sales came within the first week. The Dark Souls series has always and will always be a niche market game. It's not going to sell 8-10 million units in it's lifetime. Neither will Bloodborne. Go back and do some more research.

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#145 Posted by Shewgenja (19228 posts) -

@blackace said:

I'm not wrong. There are games that have sold over 3 million copies in one day on one platform. 2 million in 2-3 months on multiplats systems is nothing. Especially when the biggest amount of sales came within the first week. The Dark Souls series has always and will always be a niche market game. It's not going to sell 8-10 million units in it's lifetime. Neither will Bloodborne. Go back and do some more research.

JRPGs were once an almost unheard of niche in the west once upon a time. Did you know there were SIX Final Fantasies before VII came out?

****The more you know*******************

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#146 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@bublover1 said:

@blackace said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@blackace said:

@bublover1 said:

It's not even 5. MS confirmed that the 5 million figure was shipped. It's likely at 4.5 million. SONY is around 9.5 million.

Lems are butthurt about it and are damage controlling.

You do realize that the 9 million sale is just a guesstimate from the article creator right? lol!! That is not official numbers from Sony. Also, Microsoft's 5 million shipped was announced was announced back in April. It's July now, which means they are well over 5 million sold by now. A better guesstimate would be XB1 5-5.2 million and PS4 8-8.5 million sold.

As for the PS3 and XBox 360. Microsoft announced 84 million 360 sold at the E3. Sony is still at 80 million. They said nothing about their PS3 sales at the E3.

LOL...telling him his figures are guesses while posting your own guesses.

At least I admit I'm making a guess. You idiots are thinking his guesses are fact. lmao!! Sony hasn't provided any updated sales figures yet. Don't be delusional.

5 million shipped still. Confirmed by MS. Xbone isn't selling well, so stores aren't buying any more.

so where is sony's sale stats for 9 million?

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#147 Edited by ProjectPat187 (2069 posts) -

@scottpsfan14 said:
@ProjectPat187 said:

@scottpsfan14 said:
@ProjectPat187 said:

@scottpsfan14 said:
@ProjectPat187 said:

@scottpsfan14 said:
@ProjectPat187 said:

@SambaLele said:

@Salt_The_Fries: PS3: more expensive, equal (~ a bit stronger) hardware. Launched a year late. Bashed because it was too expensive and because people thought Blu-ray was unnecessary. Sony sticked to it, and BD won the format war against HD-DVD, thus becoming a selling point. Managed to gradually pick up to where the other standed, and eventually surpassed 360's sales worldwide. Can the X1 repeat this feat? It's possible, let's see:

X1: more expensive (not anymore), weaker hardware. Got great backlash due to restrictive policies + higher price at launch + mandatory Kinect. MS didn't stick to the policies, dropped Kinect (potential selling point), brand image may have been affected (too early to tell).

It's not the same situation. X1 is in a lot more trouble than the PS3 was at the time. It's got no obvious advantages over the other like the PS3 had. Also, it hasn't any different feature, like the PS3 had BD. To finish... weaker hardware, same price. This isn't taking into account those that won't buy the console because of the announced draconian policies...

This is false.

Is it? Where do you get your numbers? Just interested?

Where do you get your numbers that the PS3 has passed the 360? Im also interested.

Link to a post where I say that XD

Who said you said anything? I simply asked you a question.

I never claimed any sales numbers of PS3. I'm asking you where you got your numbers.

And what sales numbers did I claim? Again im also asking you where did you get your numbers? You asked me about where I get my numbers but you didnt ask him so you obviously agree with im that the PS3 sold more than the 360, which I have never heard or seen any site claim this is true.

ProjectPat187, Listen to me! A person said that PS3 sales surpassed the 360 sales worldwide, you said "This is false". I was interested in how you knew for a fact it was false, so I assumed you had numbers to back up your claim. I don't know, which is why I asked. Simple stuff Joseph.

I dont know either, but what I do know is both sold over 80 million, its been awhile but the last source I remember had the 360 ahead sales wise by about 5-7 million maybe more, but both were over 80 million. I just never seen anything actually saying the PS3 was ahead sales wise. Even with the 360 ahead both sold over 80 million and both were a sales success.

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#148 Edited by Daious (2315 posts) -

@blackace said:

@daious said:

@blackace said:

@daious said:

It is sad to know that you are not joking

No, I'm not joking when games like GTA V and CoD sell over 15 million units with the same userbase. lol!! 2 million ain't shit for a 160+ million userbase. Get a clue you delusional troll. Even Uncharted 3, Forza 4, TLOU sold more copies and they aren't even multiplats.

Selling a over a million in two-three weeks is not a niche franchise. You don't have to sell as much as UC, GTA, or those franchises to not be consider a niche franchise. You didn't do your research and I contested your statement. You are the one that was clearly wrong. End of story.

Its very nice that you resorted to name calling.

I'm not wrong. There are games that have sold over 3 million copies in one day on one platform. 2 million in 2-3 months on multiplats systems is nothing. Especially when the biggest amount of sales came within the first week. The Dark Souls series has always and will always be a niche market game. It's not going to sell 8-10 million units in it's lifetime. Neither will Bloodborne. Go back and do some more research.

You are wrong.

It isn't 2 million in 2-3 months. It was 1.3 million in 2 to 3 weeks in only EU and NA. Your logic that Dark Souls being a niche game is that it didn't sell as much as Forza and other franchises. You are comparing the lifetime sales of those franchises with the only sales number we know which is the sales of Dark Souls 2 in 2-3 weeks in two territories. Forza 4 is at 4 million. Forza 4 sold a little over 2 million in around 10-12 months which means DS2 blew it away in sales.

Niche market games are games that sell under a million. Dark Souls 2 proved that the series clearly no longer a niche market. You can spin the story as many angles you want but you are still wrong.

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#149 Posted by blackace (23576 posts) -

@daious said:

@blackace said:

@alcapello said:

Come Bloodborne, it will be like the boom of the great depression.

Lemmings will be outing xboxs while cursing microsoft.

You are delusional. Bloodborne isn't going to do much. It's a niche market for games like that. Stop putting all your cards on one game. The Witcher 3 and Uncharted 4 which crush that game in sales pretty easily.

I am pretty sure the Dark Souls 2 selling faster than any other Witcher title. Dark souls 2 (ps3/360) units sold in one month match what Witcher 2 on PC/360 did in a year.

Dark Souls series is not a niche market. Sales prove otherwise. Please do some research before posting next time.

I already did my research and the game is definitely a niche market game. Even Forza and LBP are niche market games. They only cater to a small group of gamers who like these type of games. They aren't mainstream games likeCoD, SSF IV, Halo, GT or MGS. 2 million is nothing when it's a hyped game and has a large group of hardcore fanboys following it. The problem is once all those hardwcore gamers buy it, it will sell pretty low the rest of it's lifetime. Most casual gamers won't be getting it.

As for Witcher 2, it launched on the PC first and then launched only on the Xbox 360 like 2yrs later. It didn't launch on both PC/360 at the same time. Most gamers had already played it on the PC, so expectations on the 360 weren't overly high. It did sell over 1 million on the 360 though. Witcher 3 will be multiplat however and launch on PC, XB1 & PS4 at the same time. Let's see how it's 2-3 week sales do.

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#150 Edited by Daious (2315 posts) -

@blackace said:

@daious said:

@blackace said:

@alcapello said:

Come Bloodborne, it will be like the boom of the great depression.

Lemmings will be outing xboxs while cursing microsoft.

You are delusional. Bloodborne isn't going to do much. It's a niche market for games like that. Stop putting all your cards on one game. The Witcher 3 and Uncharted 4 which crush that game in sales pretty easily.

I am pretty sure the Dark Souls 2 selling faster than any other Witcher title. Dark souls 2 (ps3/360) units sold in one month match what Witcher 2 on PC/360 did in a year.

Dark Souls series is not a niche market. Sales prove otherwise. Please do some research before posting next time.

I already did my research and the game is definitely a niche market game.

Do more research because no game that sells 1.3 million in only two territories in about 2-3 weeks should be considered a niche game. End of story. End of it. You haven't proved it otherwise.