XBOX LIVE IS OVER RATED (fear the caps)...

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#1 Big_Red_Button
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Ok, before we get started, let's go over some distinctions here:

1) LAG:

People say that Xbox Live doesn't lag. Not true.

Popular games like Halo 2 and Gears Of War don't lag, because the companies invest so much money in making them have stable online services, but other then those 2 games, EVERY OTHER FRICKEN GAME LAGS LIKE HELL.

2) NUMBER OF PEOPLE:

Once again, Halo 2 and Gears of war are the ONLY games with lots of people playing.

These 2 games have tons of people, while at ANY given time there's maybe a grand total of 15 people in another game.

3) RANDOM DISCONNECTS:

This one pisses me off, because whenever I'm in a game other then Halo 2 or GeoW it disconnects me roughly every 15 minutes.

4) LITTLE KIDS:

Now, everyone seems to say that "But Big Red Button! Every online system has lots of little kids!!!!!!111111".

NOT TRUE. PC Games (which have an online service 100 times better, it's called the INTERNET) have almost no little kids.

Now, I don't have that much against little kids, I like kids, I even spent a lot of my teenage years babysitting.

But it becomes a problem when in half of the games you join you hear this:

"LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALAL

ALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA"

Now let's compare this to PC online:

1) Even in huge games like Battlefield 2 with 64 people it runs smooth (unless the dude was an ass and got a crappy server).

2) Find ANY game that's on both PC and 360 and I'll bet with 90% certanty that the PC version has well over 10 times the number of players. This is shown by games like CoD2, FEAR, and will soon be demonstrated by the HL2 package's Team Fortress 2.

3) Doesn't happen. Except in Battlefield 2, but turn voIP off and it stops. (because PC games have lots of options to optimise them).

4)Already explaned this one. There's a little kid here or there, but they're ALWAYS less annoying, and the people aged 16+ outnumber them 10 to 1.

Now get out of my thread.

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#2 EvilDrifter
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And no little mexican kid is a pro gamer in PC gaming. *b7'd*
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#4 deactivated-645e897010df8
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Seems to me ALL of those problems are your own fault, apart from the kid one where you seem to turn a blind eye to adults.
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#6 crazyjames1080
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The kids can be annoying at times. On Halo that is.
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#7 deactivated-645e897010df8
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I'd say Starcraft, but it's perfect.

If you disagree you're wrong.

I don't even believes that any game has the potential to be perfect, but Starcraft is the exception.

Big_Red_Button


Starcraft is the worst game ever made!!! Seriously... Why does everyone like it!?

-It barely sold ANY copies.

-NO ONE plays it (especially in South Korea)

-It didn't get ANY good reviews... ANYWHERE.

-All of it's races were COMPLETELY the same, even down to their looks, build trees, and overall play forbidden>

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#8 StarFoxCOM
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 No he has points but X-box live Rules
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#9 Prid3r
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:|.....not worth waisting my type on this bs .
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#10 Silvereign
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The longer 360's out the more Xbox live service will grow. 
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#11 z_gaming_master
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Last time I checked, COD3 had plenty of people playing....:S

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#12 mathew952
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Why doesn't anyone get this simple fact: If you want it free, it won't be good, and if you want it good, you have to pay. No matter how many lame excuses you come up with, this will pertain to everything you get in life. And I'm sick of hearing these reports on how XBL sucks. Do you own a 360? " No cuz M$ iz da crapzors, I played ay my Fri3nds house." Becuse we all know having 2- 4 players on one connection won't affect ping at all.
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#13 turgore
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THe only games that lag are the older ubisoft games but not all of them that's cuz  the ubi servers suck. anyway you can talk to ppl on xbox live and if you don't want to turn the mic of. Anyway PC  online sucks because it's soo unbalanced like you don't have matchmaking and stuff and there are cheaters.
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#14 redhawk360
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4) LITTLE KIDS:

Now, everyone seems to say that "But Big Red Button! Every online system has lots of little kids!!!!!!111111".

NOT TRUE. PC Games (which have an online service 100 times better, it's called the INTERNET) have almost no little kids.

Now, I don't have that much against little kids, I like kids, I even spent a lot of my teenage years babysitting.

But it becomes a problem when in half of the games you join you hear this:

"LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALAL

ALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA"

Big_Red_Button


The only reason you dont like little kids online is because they own you.
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#15 mathew952
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And you notice how he's gone, and proably can't deal with the fact he's wrong/////
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#16 jujutheking
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Ok, before we get started, let's go over some distinctions here:

1) LAG:

People say that Xbox Live doesn't lag. Not true.

Popular games like Halo 2 and Gears Of War don't lag, because the companies invest so much money in making them have stable online services, but other then those 2 games, EVERY OTHER FRICKEN GAME LAGS LIKE HELL.

2) NUMBER OF PEOPLE:

Once again, Halo 2 and Gears of war are the ONLY games with lots of people playing.

These 2 games have tons of people, while at ANY given time there's maybe a grand total of 15 people in another game.

3) RANDOM DISCONNECTS:

This one pisses me off, because whenever I'm in a game other then Halo 2 or GeoW it disconnects me roughly every 15 minutes.

4) LITTLE KIDS:

Now, everyone seems to say that "But Big Red Button! Every online system has lots of little kids!!!!!!111111".

NOT TRUE. PC Games (which have an online service 100 times better, it's called the INTERNET) have almost no little kids.

Now, I don't have that much against little kids, I like kids, I even spent a lot of my teenage years babysitting.

But it becomes a problem when in half of the games you join you hear this:

"LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALAL

ALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA"

Now let's compare this to PC online:

1) Even in huge games like Battlefield 2 with 64 people it runs smooth (unless the dude was an ass and got a crappy server).

2) Find ANY game that's on both PC and 360 and I'll bet with 90% certanty that the PC version has well over 10 times the number of players. This is shown by games like CoD2, FEAR, and will soon be demonstrated by the HL2 package's Team Fortress 2.

3) Doesn't happen. Except in Battlefield 2, but turn voIP off and it stops. (because PC games have lots of options to optimise them).

4)Already explaned this one. There's a little kid here or there, but they're ALWAYS less annoying, and the people aged 16+ outnumber them 10 to 1.

Now get out of my thread.

Big_Red_Button

WTH are u talking about?I play with about a 100 people on Rainbow6 everyday and nba2k7.

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#17 bman000
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What's funny is I get more disconnections in Gears and Halo more so then other games. Of course XBL has lag, but people with good connections will rarely experience it. Almost everygame I play has tons of people online. And little kids are a little annoying, but learn to love the mute button.
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#18 Nintega91
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WTH are u talking about?I play with about a 100 people on Rainbow6 everyday and nba2k7.

jujutheking

100 out of 10 million isnt very much.

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#19 11Marcel
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This guy seriously needs to start playing rainbow six vegas on live... It would be an eye opener.
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Ok, before we get started, let's go over some distinctions here:

1) LAG:

People say that Xbox Live doesn't lag. Not true.

Popular games like Halo 2 and Gears Of War don't lag, because the companies invest so much money in making them have stable online services, but other then those 2 games, EVERY OTHER FRICKEN GAME LAGS LIKE HELL.

2) NUMBER OF PEOPLE:

Once again, Halo 2 and Gears of war are the ONLY games with lots of people playing.

These 2 games have tons of people, while at ANY given time there's maybe a grand total of 15 people in another game.

3) RANDOM DISCONNECTS:

This one pisses me off, because whenever I'm in a game other then Halo 2 or GeoW it disconnects me roughly every 15 minutes.

4) LITTLE KIDS:

Now, everyone seems to say that "But Big Red Button! Every online system has lots of little kids!!!!!!111111".

NOT TRUE. PC Games (which have an online service 100 times better, it's called the INTERNET) have almost no little kids.

Now, I don't have that much against little kids, I like kids, I even spent a lot of my teenage years babysitting.

But it becomes a problem when in half of the games you join you hear this:

"LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALAL

ALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA"

Now let's compare this to PC online:

1) Even in huge games like Battlefield 2 with 64 people it runs smooth (unless the dude was an ass and got a crappy server).

2) Find ANY game that's on both PC and 360 and I'll bet with 90% certanty that the PC version has well over 10 times the number of players. This is shown by games like CoD2, FEAR, and will soon be demonstrated by the HL2 package's Team Fortress 2.

3) Doesn't happen. Except in Battlefield 2, but turn voIP off and it stops. (because PC games have lots of options to optimise them).

4)Already explaned this one. There's a little kid here or there, but they're ALWAYS less annoying, and the people aged 16+ outnumber them 10 to 1.

Now get out of my thread.

Big_Red_Button

i never lagged in madden,splintercell,nba 2k7,test drive,rainbow 6,and saints row

theres a thousand people playing madden,nba 2k7 and rainbow 6 right now

i mute them

i never get disconnected

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#21 RickJame-s
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Yeah there is lag in almost every game I've played..including counterstrike source!!(Some days my ping goes from 80 to 200) You expect there to be lag of some sort In GEOW (I've played with people from europe, japan and austrailia yesterday) If the host of the game has a lag connection..your game is going to lag.  You can't blame LIVE for the hosts connection.  And the comment about little kids....I'm sorry your going to get that on any online server, doesnt matter if its on the PC, Xbox, or PS.
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#22 parshanb
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Ok, before we get started, let's go over some distinctions here:

1) LAG:

People say that Xbox Live doesn't lag. Not true.

Popular games like Halo 2 and Gears Of War don't lag, because the companies invest so much money in making them have stable online services, but other then those 2 games, EVERY OTHER FRICKEN GAME LAGS LIKE HELL.

2) NUMBER OF PEOPLE:

Once again, Halo 2 and Gears of war are the ONLY games with lots of people playing.

These 2 games have tons of people, while at ANY given time there's maybe a grand total of 15 people in another game.

3) RANDOM DISCONNECTS:

This one pisses me off, because whenever I'm in a game other then Halo 2 or GeoW it disconnects me roughly every 15 minutes.

4) LITTLE KIDS:

Now, everyone seems to say that "But Big Red Button! Every online system has lots of little kids!!!!!!111111".

NOT TRUE. PC Games (which have an online service 100 times better, it's called the INTERNET) have almost no little kids.

Now, I don't have that much against little kids, I like kids, I even spent a lot of my teenage years babysitting.

But it becomes a problem when in half of the games you join you hear this:

"LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALAL

ALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA"

Now let's compare this to PC online:

1) Even in huge games like Battlefield 2 with 64 people it runs smooth (unless the dude was an ass and got a crappy server).

2) Find ANY game that's on both PC and 360 and I'll bet with 90% certanty that the PC version has well over 10 times the number of players. This is shown by games like CoD2, FEAR, and will soon be demonstrated by the HL2 package's Team Fortress 2.

3) Doesn't happen. Except in Battlefield 2, but turn voIP off and it stops. (because PC games have lots of options to optimise them).

4)Already explaned this one. There's a little kid here or there, but they're ALWAYS less annoying, and the people aged 16+ outnumber them 10 to 1.

Now get out of my thread.

Big_Red_Button
omg your a retard GEARS OF WAR lags sometimes but i have NEVER lagged with ANY game except Gears of War , omg man, the whole thing is fake, stop lying
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#23 Deiuos
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Until everyone in the world has like T3 or something, you're probably going to see some lag here and there.  If you grew up with 56k online games like I have, I don't see how you or anyone could complain -- now THOSE were lagging games!

As for the "overrated" comment, anything popular is overrated.  Cheese?  Overrated.
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#24 lazerluke
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The quality of the connection from the person hosting the game will effect the lag and disconnects not xbox live, xbox live does not host the game. I would have thought you would know that being a pc gamer.

There are more online players for COD2 on the pc because the 360 has COD3 as well.

The multiplayer part in FEAR is available as a free download and the game has been out ages on the pc so again no surprise that there are more pc players online.

The 64 player BF2 games you speak about are hosted from spealist companies like multiplay who have dedicated servers and really fast internet connections. You could not host a game of this size on a standard residential broadband line.

I hope this helps.

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#25 KodiakGTS
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1) Well, obviously you don't play many games on XBL then. Seriously, I'm curious which games you have played, and what your connection speed is. I have played PDZ, Madden 07, DOA4, Top Spin 2, Burnout Revenge, Pocketbike Racer, Chromehounds, GeoW, and Halo 2 on my 360 and have found instances of lag to be rare at best. 2) The number of people playing any given game at any given type is not Microsofts fault. What do you want them to do, pay people to play games that came out a year ago just so you can have some fun? Besides, if the online is truly good then finding a game isn't really a problem. I'm still able to find people to play in games like PDZ and Burnout Revenge, which have been out quite a while. The only game I've really had trouble with was Top Spin 2, simply because tennis isn't that popular of a game genre. 3) Like I said, I'd be curious to see what games you are playing. I really haven't had many problems with disconnects in my gaming. 4) Learn to not be a lazy idiot and use the mute option. Seriously, thats what it's there for.
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#26 rhaigun
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[QUOTE="Big_Red_Button"]

I'd say Starcraft, but it's perfect.

If you disagree you're wrong.

I don't even believes that any game has the potential to be perfect, but Starcraft is the exception.

Nemme


Starcraft is the worst game ever made!!! Seriously... Why does everyone like it!?

-It barely sold ANY copies.

-NO ONE plays it (especially in South Korea)

-It didn't get ANY good reviews... ANYWHERE.

-All of it's races were COMPLETELY the same, even down to their looks, build trees, and overall play forbidden>

Big_Red_Button



BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Credible source?

OWNAGE APPROVED!!!!!!

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#27 Darth_Stalin
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You only get lag if you or the host have bad services. If you play with people that have good braodband, there will be no lag. That's why when I buy a game, I make friends with people that have good services.
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#28 VoodooHak
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Come join the rest of us here in the year of 2007.

XBL does have some of those annoyances,but you have to take the bad with the good.  Luckily, XBL gives you a good set of features and tools to prevent all of that.

If you're not using those tools, then you have no one else to blame but yourself.

I set my gamerzone appropriately, I always use the feedback tool which allows me to, amongst other things, to either avoid or prefer people I've played with, I'm pretty free with using the mute function and play primarily with people on my friends list.

I haven't had a single annoying experience for long time.
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#29 GloverD
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Its kinda Pathetic XBOXLIVES first attempt at online still had you paying 5.00 a month and you couldnt use grenades so they could cut down lag... Pathetic
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#30 ByFly
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XBOX live is great but it costs money thats what i HATE about it... 

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#31 MentatAssassin
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 EVERY OTHER FRICKEN GAME LAGS LIKE HELL.

Big_Red_Button

No it doesnt and you know it.

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#32 Smithblat89
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You must not play on xbox live much, because there are lots of people on line. And gears has lag.
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#33 project343
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2) Jedi Academy, an under-appreciated 2003 title has atleast 50+ people on at any given time. :? 3) I don't randomly disconnect. You should check your connection. 4) There's little kids everywhere, just use the mute button.