Xbox Game Pass Subscriptions Reach 30 Million, Take-Two CEO Says

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#1 Pedro
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During TheWrap's digital event, TheGrill 2021, Take-Two CEO Strauss Zelnick said that Xbox Game Pass subscribers have reached the 30 million mark. This comment was made during aroundtable discussionthat included Xbox executive Phil Spencer. Link

Well this is interesting. The growth of the service seems to be still progressing. That is more than half of the Xbox One userbase and nearly 10 times more than PSNow.๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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Not surprising, it is a fantastic value and just keeps getting better. Iโ€™m definitely enjoying it myself.

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#4 lamprey263
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That's a growth of 7 million in last 5 months. These are the kind of metrics I imagine MS is thinking about with regard to their titles being on Game Pass.

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#5 Pedro
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@lamprey263 said:

That's a growth of several million in last few months. These are the kind of metrics I imagine MS is thinking about with regard to their titles being on Game Pass.

Are you saying they don't use IGN polls? ๐Ÿ˜‰

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@Pedro said:
@lamprey263 said:

That's a growth of several million in last few months. These are the kind of metrics I imagine MS is thinking about with regard to their titles being on Game Pass.

Are you saying they don't use IGN polls? ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Odd to see Take-Two actually commenting something nice about GP growth while a month ago Take-Two doesn't like GP for putting newer games on it just seems as if they are taking a liking all of a sudden.

Either way, glad GP is making a strive in the gaming world.

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#8 lamprey263
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@Pedro: I was thinking like "oh Pyschonauts sold horribly Game Pass is a failure" kind of reactions which echo around the gaming websites.

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#9  Edited By BassMan
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Game Pass?.... never heard of it.
Game Pass?.... never heard of it.
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Fuuck Take-Two!

Gamepass is cool.

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#11 StrongDeadlift
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So GamePass is already far ahead of MY (and no doubt their own) projection miletone of 30 million subscribers by January 2022.

This needs to be burned into the mind of anyone who believes GamePass is "unsustainable". In 3 years, GamePass will be a service that "prints" $10 Billion+ dollars annually.

At this late stage of the game, is there anyone left who still believes Microsoft is pressed about $7.5 Billion, or a couple hundred million they'll lose on Elder Scrolls/Starfield not being on PlayStation?

If 10 million people bought Elder Scrolls on Playstation (higher than any bethesda game has sold on PlayStation, but not Xbox) Microsoft gets $490 Million dollars. Once.

If those same 10 million become GamePass subscribers, they get $1.8 Billion annually ($15 x 12 x 10,000,000). Microsoft is playing a much longer game than Sony.

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#12 lamprey263
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Will be interesting to see what the shift will be like through the holiday season with Halo and Forza releasing.

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#13 sheep99
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@StrongDeadlift: Gamepass is sustainable if you have a lot of subscribers( it will be the new normal in gaming just like TV today)and problem is keeping those subscribers and thatโ€™s were quantity over quantity comes in question, I have to many questions that need answers to understand game subscription services better.

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#14 tdkmillsy
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WOW

30 million subscribers

GamePass is the best thing to happen to gaming.

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#15 ZeroTheHero
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Own an xbox, 360, and XBone never once tried gamepass i can't be alone f gamepass and ill never use it or buy it as an xbox owner.

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#16 mtron32
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I can't see myself ever not having it now that I do. Since I purchased the new systems, the first game I purchased since launch Deluxe Spidey will be Disco Elysium on the Switch, all thanks to Game Pass.

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#17 blaznwiipspman1
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@davillain- said:

Odd to see Take-Two actually commenting something nice about GP growth while a month ago Take-Two doesn't like GP for putting newer games on it just seems as if they are taking a liking all of a sudden.

Either way, glad GP is making a strive in the gaming world.

they are dumb...GP is great as a marketing tool to push sales in their new games by releasing their older games on gamepass.

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@girlusocrazy said:

That link just says a guy from another company asked if it was 30 million and then:

Spencer responded, "The last public number we announced was 18 [million]."

Zelnick continued to talk about interactive media and how subscription services need to offer content consumers want. He then asked Spencer, "I think last time we checked, we got around 30 million subs, Phil, right? Something like that?"

However, Spencer responded, "The last public number we announced was 18 [million]." Zelnick then appeared to try to course-correct himself, saying, "It's more than 18."

Spencer was covering the CEOs behind, as he would've certainly heard an earful from investors if not told first in an investor's call.

That said, as you can see in the transcript, Spencer and T2 CEO clearly talked about it off air.

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#21 lamprey263
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@navyguy21: I think this looks like he may have accidentally divulged privileged information, I can't imagine Take Two would have their games on the service without knowing what the subscription base is like.

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#22 Syn_Valence
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So only 18 million then? Why do you lems lie so much?

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#23 ZeroTheHero
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Dude there isn't even 30 million xb1's out in the wild let alone x-series this is BS not everyone with an xbox one is buying this let alone playing on the xbox 1 anymore.

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@zerothehero said:

Own an xbox, 360, and XBone never once tried gamepass i can't be alone f gamepass and ill never use it or buy it as an xbox owner.

You're not a gamer, you're a fakeboy protoss.

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@zerothehero said:

Dude there isn't even 30 million xb1's out in the wild let alone x-series this is BS not everyone with an xbox one is buying this let alone playing on the xbox 1 anymore.

Are there no rules against lying @davillain- ?

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@zerothehero said:

Dude there isn't even 30 million xb1's out in the wild let alone x-series this is BS not everyone with an xbox one is buying this let alone playing on the xbox 1 anymore.

Fakeboy, you understand GP isn't limited to Xbox's only right?? No how could you know, you're a fakeboy wanna be gamer.

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The tears.

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@zerothehero: โ€œ Own an xbox, 360, and XBone never once tried gamepass i can't be alone f gamepass and ill never use it or buy it as an xbox ownerโ€

I wouldnโ€™t expect anything else coming from you.

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Considering he's not a Microsoft executive, and therefore would not know these numbers for real, I'd take this with a grain of salt.

But if true, then Microsoft is still on track to achieve the scaling required to make the Game Pass model work.

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A video of the interaction

Phil does not confirm the number but he does not deny it either

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@zerothehero: You should bet one of your accounts against those numbers.

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@madrocketeer: "Considering he's not a Microsoft executive, and therefore would not know these numbers for real, I'd take this with a grain of salt."

Considering Take Two has had numerous games go to the Game Pass service I would assume they'd have to know where the userbase sits in negotiation compensation and determining a window for those games to be on it. And I would assume that information would be privileged to those who need to know, they're just not supposed to go tell the world.

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LOLโ€ฆโ€ฆ.Sony Fan is crying about GP again.

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@zerothehero said:

Dude there isn't even 30 million xb1's out in the wild let alone x-series this is BS not everyone with an xbox one is buying this let alone playing on the xbox 1 anymore.

Dude, there are definitely 30 million Xbox One's in the wild. I think they're at like 50 mil by now.

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@girlusocrazy said:

That link just says a guy from another company asked if it was 30 million and then:

Spencer responded, "The last public number we announced was 18 [million]."

Psssst. Xbrain fans will ignore this BIG WAY.

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@mowgly1 said:
@girlusocrazy said:

That link just says a guy from another company asked if it was 30 million and then:

Spencer responded, "The last public number we announced was 18 [million]."

Psssst. Xbrain fans will ignore this BIG WAY.

Did you read the article?

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@lundy86_4 said:
@mowgly1 said:
@girlusocrazy said:

That link just says a guy from another company asked if it was 30 million and then:

Spencer responded, "The last public number we announced was 18 [million]."

Psssst. Xbrain fans will ignore this BIG WAY.

Did you read the article?

Nope! ๐Ÿคญ

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#39  Edited By Antwan3K
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If true, that's a great milestone.. and, again, this would before Xbox Game Studios has even kicked into gear with their 1st party titles and Bethesda IPs..

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@Pedro said:
@lundy86_4 said:
@mowgly1 said:
@girlusocrazy said:

That link just says a guy from another company asked if it was 30 million and then:

Spencer responded, "The last public number we announced was 18 [million]."

Psssst. Xbrain fans will ignore this BIG WAY.

Did you read the article?

Nope! ๐Ÿคญ

Ignoring Phil Spencer's words i see. So, delusional Xbrains as usual and accepting only what fits your Xbox crappy narrative

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@mowgly1 said:

Ignoring Phil Spencer's words i see. So, delusional Xbrains as usual and accepting only what fits your Xbox crappy narrative

I see that you are

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@mowgly1 said:

Ignoring Phil Spencer's words i see. So, delusional Xbrains as usual and accepting only what fits your Xbox crappy narrative

How is that ignoring Phil Spencer's words? Read again. Follow the flow of the conversation.

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@Pedro said:
@mowgly1 said:

Ignoring Phil Spencer's words i see. So, delusional Xbrains as usual and accepting only what fits your Xbox crappy narrative

I see that you are

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That is my gif. How dare you steal it like that.

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@lundy86_4 said:
@mowgly1 said:

Ignoring Phil Spencer's words i see. So, delusional Xbrains as usual and accepting only what fits your Xbox crappy narrative

How is that ignoring Phil Spencer's words? Read again. Follow the flow of the conversation.

Xbrains without brains as usual

After Phil Spencer says the announced number is 18, Strauss says "for some reason I thought it was <garbled>". Strauss then says it is more than 18 assuming it had increased since the last public announcement.

Seems clear Strauss simply doesn't know regardless.

But, Xbone fans, please continue spewing crap. Looks like you are triggered, Xbone fans, because i've pointed out your stupidity

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@valgaav_219 said:
@zerothehero said:

Dude there isn't even 30 million xb1's out in the wild let alone x-series this is BS not everyone with an xbox one is buying this let alone playing on the xbox 1 anymore.

Dude, there are definitely 30 million Xbox One's in the wild. I think they're at like 50 mil by now.

What about people who bought an xbox one but than put it in closet or there basement and don't use it anymore and upgraded ps4 or ps5

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#46 Pedro
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@mowgly1 said:

Xbrains without brains as usual

After Phil Spencer says the announced number is 18, Strauss says "for some reason I thought it was <garbled>". Strauss then says it is more than 18 assuming it had increased since the last public announcement.

Seems clear Strauss simply doesn't know regardless.

But, Xbone fans, please continue spewing crap. Looks like you are triggered, Xbone fans, because i've pointed out your stupidity

Your reaction to reading the article

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@mowgly1 said:
... Strauss says "for some reason I thought it was <garbled>".

Are you quoting the 4 hour stream, or the article?

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Devs with their games on GP used to make like $1 instead of $60. Now they're making $2.30.

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@mowgly1 said:
@Pedro said:
@lundy86_4 said:
@mowgly1 said:
@girlusocrazy said:

That link just says a guy from another company asked if it was 30 million and then:

Spencer responded, "The last public number we announced was 18 [million]."

Psssst. Xbrain fans will ignore this BIG WAY.

Did you read the article?

Nope! ๐Ÿคญ

Ignoring Phil Spencer's words i see. So, delusional Xbrains as usual and accepting only what fits your Xbox crappy narrative

What Phil Spencer was saying, was that he's not prepared to publicly confirm anything, not that it wasn't true.

Publishers, in this case Take Two's CEO (and developers) have access to detailed up to the minute sales performance data, so they can know how to position their products or if it's worth using the service for certain products. They don't get their information via twitter like the fans do. They probably have incredibly detailed data sheets which even has Gamepass average user behaviour region by region. They need it for the business side of things.

I know that you'll ignore this though because you're a pretty hardcore PS fan.

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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@mowgly1 said:

Ignoring Phil Spencer's words i see. So, delusional Xbrains as usual and accepting only what fits your Xbox crappy narrative

What Phil Spencer was saying, was that he's not prepared to publicly confirm anything, not that it wasn't true.

Publishers, in this case Take Two's CEO (and developers) have access to detailed up to the minute sales performance data, so they can know how to position their products or if it's worth using the service for certain products. They don't get their information via twitter like the fans do. They probably have incredibly detailed data sheets which even has Gamepass average user behaviour region by region. They need it for the business side of things.

I know that you'll ignore this though because you're a pretty hardcore PS fan.

Yeah... To assume that pubs/devs don't have access to basic information when deciding to invest with a platform is pure nonsense. It's due diligence for a business investing elsewhere.