Xbox boss Phil Spencer issues thinly-veiled dig at Sony's PC strategy

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#1  Edited By Gym_Lion  Online
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Stolen from Eurogamer

'Xbox boss Phil Spencer has issued a thinly-veiled dig at Sony over its PC strategy.

Speaking at part of a pre-E3, "What's Next for Gaming" virtual briefing shown to press this week, Spencer took aim at Sony's strategy of releasing its PlayStation-exclusives on PC years after they come out on console.

Here's the quote from Spencer in full:

"Across the Xbox ecosystem, we're now reaching hundreds of millions of people every month, and our total addressable market is going to grow while others are relatively static.

"As the Xbox ecosystem grows in both content and total size, it becomes more valuable to both players and our partners. So right now, we're the only platform shipping games on console, PC, and cloud simultaneously. Others bring console games to PC years later, not only making people buy their hardware up front, but then charging them a second time to play on PC.

"And of course, all of our games are in our subscription service day one, full cross-platform included."

Xbox boss Phil Spencer issues thinly-veiled dig at Sony's PC strategy • Eurogamer.net

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#2  Edited By Pedro
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Some people prefer to milked. 😂

I can hear the stampede coming.

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#3 hardwenzen
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Releasing exclusives on pc a few years later makes it so the Playstation is a still a worthwhile system for those who own a pc. Same thing can't be said for Xbox🤷‍♀️

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#4 Pedro
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@hardwenzen said:

Releasing exclusives on pc a few years later makes it so the Playstation is a still a worthwhile system for those who own a pc. Same thing can't be said for Xbox🤷‍♀️

You mean it is good that PC gamers have to spend more on redundant hardware? 😎

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#5 VFighter
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A dig doesn't really hold much weight when you've been in third place every generation you've participated in. 🤭

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#6 Archangel3371
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Well he is right. I prefer consoles myself so releasing their games on PC at the same time has no affect on me as I’ll get the console and the games there. The console will always be worthwhile to me regardless. 🤷‍♂️

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#7 Pedro
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@vfighter said:

A dig doesn't really hold much weight when you've been in third place every generation you've participated in. 🤭

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#8  Edited By GirlUSoCrazy
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What? Good guy Philly Cheesecake who congratulated Cory Barlog is throwing shade has gone from Jekyll to Hyde?

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Ooof. Phil Spencer knows if Sony bring their games to PC day one, they'll get rekt.

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#10 Pedro
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@girlusocrazy said:

What? Good guy Philly Cheesecake who congratulated Cory Barlog is throwing shade has gone from Jekyll to Hyde? I'm shocked!

You are confusing your scopes.

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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

Releasing exclusives on pc a few years later makes it so the Playstation is a still a worthwhile system for those who own a pc. Same thing can't be said for Xbox🤷‍♀️

You mean it is good that PC gamers have to spend more on redundant hardware? 😎

And that's how Sony makes money as well, not just from games.

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#12 Pedro
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@hardwenzen said:

And that's how Sony makes money as well, not just from games.

They take a loss on PS5 hardware, especially the disc free. Didn't you get the disc free version?

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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

Releasing exclusives on pc a few years later makes it so the Playstation is a still a worthwhile system for those who own a pc. Same thing can't be said for Xbox🤷‍♀️

You mean it is good that PC gamers have to spend more on redundant hardware? 😎

What "PC gamers" essentially do anyway.

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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

And that's how Sony makes money as well, not just from games.

They take a loss on PS5 hardware, especially the disc free. Didn't you get the disc free version?

Yea they do now, at the beginning of a gen its normal unless your system is underpowered af. Why the hell would i get a disc free version? Are you insane???

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@hardwenzen said:

Yea they do now, at the beginning of a gen its normal unless your system is underpowered af. Why the hell would i get a disc free version? Are you insane???

Nope! Why would I get the disc version for $100 more?

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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

Yea they do now, at the beginning of a gen its normal unless your system is underpowered af. Why the hell would i get a disc free version? Are you insane???

Nope! Why would I get the disc version for $100 more?

You're not gonna bait me in the used market, BRO. Sorry. Baiting failed 😭😭😭

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Hey Phil, how about letting the games do the talking! Still waiting for some 😉

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@SolidGame_basic said:

Hey Phil, how about letting the games do the talking! Still waiting for some 😉

Not long till Sunday

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Playstation makes a profit and Xbox don't. Go figure

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@BenjaminBanklin said:

Playstation makes a profit and Xbox don't. Go figure

Would you rather buy a game once or Sony make a profit. Which benefits you?

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#21 Ghost_of_Phobos  Online
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Sony just cares more about PC than MS and lets console gamers do the beta testing first.

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#22 Pedro
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@gym_lion said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:

Playstation makes a profit and Xbox don't. Go figure

Would you rather buy a game once or Sony make a profit. Which benefits you?

The silly things shills say. 😂 You got to love them.

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Because they want to sell units. Not that hard to understand

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#24 BenjaminBanklin
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@gym_lion said:

Would you rather buy a game once or Sony make a profit. Which benefits you?

I rather buy a good game, something I haven't seen from MS in a bit. Other game companies aren't going to follow non-successful strategies, period.

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@gym_lion said:

Not long till Sunday

MS is going to release games on Sunday?

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Non issue here. None of my concern if PC users get games years later or not.

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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@gym_lion said:

Not long till Sunday

MS is going to release games on Sunday?

I don't think they'll release anything on Sunday. But will certainly announce games that will come this year

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I'd love to see Sony releasing games on PC day one if anything to destroy the MS games in sales and player count. Here's hoping faction gets released day one on steam and it's a success, Phil is gonna cry. 🤭

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I'd love to see Sony releasing games on PC day one if anything to destroy the MS games in sales and player count. Here's hoping faction gets released day one on steam and it's a success, Phil is gonna cry. 🤭

That's why he's salty now. They've been slumming on PC for years only to get a golf clap, while Sony releases a game on PC years later and it gets huge fanfare.

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#30 mojito1988
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He is right of course. Sony fans are blind. Nothing new here.

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#31  Edited By Silentchief
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Why would Sony listen to a word MS says when Sonys gaming division makes 2 to 3x more then MS nearly every quarter. MS can bring games on the PC because they are heavily invested in the platform. The only think it would do for Playstation is destroy the brand and make them nothing more then a third party publisher.

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#32 Daredevils2k
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Let’s see, Phil’s upset that Sony is making money off of PC gamers? But does the same thing with their C rated exclusives.

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#33 osan0
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E3 is back! YAY! Let the crap slinging and goofs commence!

It's great that MS bring their games to the PC day one though. gotta give them a thumbs up for that. It's also nice that Sony are considering PC releases...er....eventually. Better than nintendo anyway.

I wonder if Sony are considering bringing PSN to the PC to go head to head with Valve, Epic, EA, Ubisoft and co. I mean if sony brought a big catalogue of PS1, 2, 3, 4, Vita, PSP and PS5 games AND have deals to sell 3rd party games like on the PS consoles with full cross buy and cross save support...it could be interesting. They have a crap load of content they could make more money off of.

it would be a lot of work but the BC work could also carry over to the PS5. Also more PS support on the PC means more dual sense sales (something that does make money) which means more happiness for sonys accountants :P.

Like MS, sony do need to mitigate the risk.

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No ones making anyone buy hardware or pay for games twice though.

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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

Yea they do now, at the beginning of a gen its normal unless your system is underpowered af. Why the hell would i get a disc free version? Are you insane???

Nope! Why would I get the disc version for $100 more?

Collector game cases!

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@Heil68 said:

Collector game cases!

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#37 shellcase86
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Phil has a point. Phil also has a software problem. Phil has made purchases to address that, but what took (and continues to) so long?

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#38 Heil68
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Dont you celebrate the hard work and dedication to the arts as much as artist creating lasting images? By golly I know I do.

@Pedro said:
@Heil68 said:

Collector game cases!

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@hardwenzen said:

Releasing exclusives on pc a few years later makes it so the Playstation is a still a worthwhile system for those who own a pc. Same thing can't be said for Xbox🤷‍♀️

Or, it gives you the choice to game how you want, when you want, for one price.

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#40 Pedro
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@Heil68 said:

Dont you celebrate the hard work and dedication to the arts as much as artist creating lasting images? By golly I know I do.

Me not wanting box art and other useless packaging doesn't take away from your enjoyment and nor am I interested in stopping it. 😊

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#41 JoshRMeyer
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I would like to ask him why games get released on windows PC but not windows xbox. Especially MS own first party games. They release xbox games games day one on PC, but their PC games come later to xbox, if at all. It would suck to be a xbox only gamer. MS has definitely shown that PC is their focus for the future and takes precedence over their console.

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#42  Edited By Antwan3K
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@joshrmeyer said:

MS has definitely shown that PC is their focus for the future and takes precedence over their console.

that seems like a rather large leap to make.. maybe some games are so keyboard/mouse centric that PC is the focal platform..

if anything and arguably, the future of the platform is that no particular device takes precedence but considering that xCloud is based completely on the Xbox console development environment, the console is likely at the forefront for the foreseeable future in terms of making games..

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#43 Pedro
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@joshrmeyer said:

I would like to ask him why games get released on windows PC but not windows xbox. Especially MS own first party games. They release xbox games games day one on PC, but their PC games come later to xbox, if at all. It would suck to be a xbox only gamer. MS has definitely shown that PC is their focus for the future and takes precedence over their console.

So true, I remember seeing the angry mobs due to Gears Tactics and Microsoft Flight Simulator being released on PC first. Imagine how pissed Xbox gamers would be when the new Age of Empires is released on PC and not Xbox.😎

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@joshrmeyer: clearly because PC is more profitable for them and their platform of choice. As it should be. As a console manufacturer, MS sucks.

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#45 NathanDrakeSwag
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Imagine calling other people shills when you have to respond to every single comment in every thread that mentions Sony

And one of these interviewers need to grow a set and ask Phil how's the view from last place

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@NathanDrakeSwag: I suspect said person works for MS. It's the only reason they get triggered whenever anyone bad mouths that company.

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@NathanDrakeSwag: I suspect said person works for MS. It's the only reason they get triggered whenever anyone bad mouths that company.

I doubt that, just because someone working for Microsoft would be making good money. Enough not to cry over $10 price hikes lol.

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Lol this is so silly. They've been last place every generation they've participated in, have next to no games, but fanboys here are still acting as if MS has won. Nothing changed from the days of hyping the Xbox One X.

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@hardwenzen said:

Releasing exclusives on pc a few years later makes it so the Playstation is a still a worthwhile system for those who own a pc. Same thing can't be said for Xbox🤷‍♀️

I can wait 2 years for a mediocre PS exclusive to come to PC because none of them are multiplayer. Thanks for days gone your best exclusive. Modders already took care of the game and it's glorious compared to what PS4 users dealt with.

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#50 mazuiface
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@sleepnsurf said:
@hardwenzen said:

Releasing exclusives on pc a few years later makes it so the Playstation is a still a worthwhile system for those who own a pc. Same thing can't be said for Xbox🤷‍♀️

I can wait 2 years for a mediocre PS exclusive to come to PC because none of them are multiplayer. Thanks for days gone your best exclusive. Modders already took care of the game and it's glorious compared to what PS4 users dealt with.

Hey the Last of Us and Uncharted 4 had pretty good multiplayer. You can just admit that you don't know rather than making shit up.