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#1  Edited By slim70
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Well now that XBO backwards compatibility has just been announced and we know that there will be no charge for games that we already own on the 360 is it safe to say that PS+ officially sucks in comparison?

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#2 freedomfreak
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If anything, it should be compared to PSNow.

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#3 MonsieurX
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You mean PS Now?

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#4  Edited By Epak_
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PS Now sucks compared to a full BC that's for sure, we don't even have PS Now here.

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#5  Edited By OmegaTau
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actually having the older systems is always better so really who cares it's about the future not that past.

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#6 ImBatman-
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BC was the highlight of MS' conference, Sony really deserved that jab from Microsoft. Even if it is limited BC, it's still better than PS Now.

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#7 Shewgenja
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Well, when you have a conference that meh, I guess anything is a victory. Hey, at least the XBone has games now.

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#8  Edited By dan_mimmsie
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might be better because u get to play xbox 360 games but what makes PS NOW is we get to play ps3 and ps2 and PS1 games

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#9 Blabadon
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Better than PS Now

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#10  Edited By majestix1988
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they are chances sony will counter this issue too with like if you PS3 Retail Disc = Free Game Download or you can play on PS4 without problems due PS4 is now easier to modify than PS3 teh Cell issue

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#11 Dilrod
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This isn't a "full" BC. They said "select titles", put in the game "download" the copy then play it on your Xbox one. This is emulation. Nothing different than what we saw Sony do on PS3 before they dumped it for ps now. My guess is the original disc will still have to be used..sort of like for the boot.ini or something, this also verifies you have the disc. I'm not getting excited until we hear more. Sadly though, this was the highlight of the conference.

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#12 Shewgenja
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Know what is better than backwards compatibility?

Having games this gen.

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#13  Edited By BobRossPerm
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XBO BC just might have won E3. Excellent news for the industry as Sony will have to respond.

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#14  Edited By chessmaster1989
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Much better than PS Now

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#15 Douevenlift_bro
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I play PS3 games on my PS3 if i ever want to play them. WHo gives a shit..

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#16 cyclops10
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The best thing about this is that it's going to force Sony to respond.

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#17 Douevenlift_bro
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@Shewgenja said:

Know what is better than backwards compatibility?

Having games this gen.

/thread.

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#18 deactivated-583e460ca986b
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It's cool news I guess but I still have a 360.

I guess I never really understood gamers hunger for backwards compatibility. Just keep your old consoles and you never have to worry.

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#19 slim70
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@Shewgenja said:

Well, when you have a conference that meh, I guess anything is a victory. Hey, at least the XBone has games now.

Meh? Yeah, to an Xbox hating PS fanboy! lol We seen 3 new first party IP's, Halo 5, Forza 6, Fable Legends and Tomb Raider not to mention the new customizable XBO elite controller! Troll?

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#20 BigBadBully
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Destroys PS+. Hopefully Sony has a counter with free PS Now and free streaming for games you own physical or digital. If not then Sony got served.

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#21 Epak_
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I'd love to just pop in a PS3 game into the PS4 and start playing.

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#22  Edited By cyclops10
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@Shewgenja said:

Know what is better than backwards compatibility?

Having games this gen.

I'm in the same boat. I haven't played a last gen game since i crossed over. Why would i want to? I mean, it's great for those that do, but it's not something i ever cared about.


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#23 ImBatman-
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@Dilrod said:

This isn't a "full" BC. They said "select titles", put in the game "download" the copy then play it on your Xbox one. This is emulation. Nothing different than what we saw Sony do on PS3 before they dumped it for ps now. My guess is the original disc will still have to be used..sort of like for the boot.ini or something, this also verifies you have the disc. I'm not getting excited until we hear more. Sadly though, this was the highlight of the conference.

Yeah that part underwhelmed as well. More titles will be added as the gen goes on. Full BC would have been a huge kick in the balls to Sony and their PS Now.

Pretty underwhelming conference overall.

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#24  Edited By Chutebox
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Why in God's name would you compare it with PS+?

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#25  Edited By slim70
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@Shewgenja said:

Know what is better than backwards compatibility?

Having games this gen.

Plenty of big exclusives games here the way I see it. So tell me Shew what does the PS4 have to compare that isn't indie?

Halo 5

Forza 6

Fable Legends

Tomb Raider

Scalebound

Crackdown 3

Phantam Dust

Quantum Break

ReCore (new IP)

Sea of Thieves (new IP)

Gears of War 4

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#26 FireEmblem_Man
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@slim70 said:
@Shewgenja said:

Know what is better than backwards compatibility?

Having games this gen.

Plenty of big exclusives games here the way I see it.

Halo 5

Forza 6

Fable Legends

Tomb Raider

Scalebound

Crackdown 3

Phantam Dust

Quantum Break

ReCore (new IP)

Sea of Thieves (new IP)

Day Z (new IP)

Gears of War 4

Day Z isn't a new IP

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#27 Edge_Plus
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@Shewgenja: which we are getting and currently have.

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#28 AM-Gamer
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Nice to see them step it up in that area. Sony should allow you to pop in your old PS3 games and allow you to play them on PS Now with no charge. Ill give credit where its due and MS did a good job with that.

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#29  Edited By ImBatman-
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Here's the list of games with BC.

Pretty lame but they did promise that list will go up to 100 titles by the holidays.

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#30 Buckhannah
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@dan_mimmsie said:

might be better because u get to play xbox 360 games but what makes PS NOW is we get to play ps3 and ps2 and PS1 games

With input lag and at a lowered visual fidelity, and for an extra cost.

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#31 MonsieurX
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@ImBatman- said:

Here's the list of games with BC.

Pretty lame but they did promise that list will go up to 100 titles by the holidays.

18 games and a lame list

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#32 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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Proper backwards compatibility will always be better than some crapula streaming service that relies heavily on your internet and charges you again to play the games you already own.

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#33  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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@Shewgenja: Lol yeah ok then... whatever you say. Pffft

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#34 Zero_epyon
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You mean PS Now? But in any case, It's only if developers approve it, so it's not like you have instant access to all of the games. And I think you have to download the games too, even if you have it on disk. Kinda weird.

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#35 Buckhannah
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Love that BC still makes so many people act like total asshats on the forums. You can have both, guys. Your idea that the gaming industry can't have the equivalent of walking and chewing gum at the same time simply doesn't fly in a neat little place the rest of us live in, it's called reality. #DealWithIt

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#36  Edited By xhawk27
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MS knocked Sony the F-out with that part about being free! :)

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#37 commonfate
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I might use it to replay Tales of Vesperia if that game hits the "list" but damn, if I really wanted to play 360 games that bad that I would tout it as some kind of victory for E3 in place of actual stuff to be excited about I'd buy a 360 instead.

One lame conference down, Sony's is next :/

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#38  Edited By darklight4
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@GoldenElementXL said:

It's cool news I guess but I still have a 360.

I guess I never really understood gamers hunger for backwards compatibility. Just keep your old consoles and you never have to worry.

Kinda defeats the point of buying a next gen system if all you want is to play old games. Still have my ps3 and an N64.

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#39 Buckhannah
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@GoldenElementXL said:

It's cool news I guess but I still have a 360.

I guess I never really understood gamers hunger for backwards compatibility. Just keep your old consoles and you never have to worry.

Less junk on our entertainment centers. Not everyone is some oddball collector with a whole room dedicated to gaming with three TVs and a dozen consoles set up in it.

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#40 slim70
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@FireEmblem_Man said:
@slim70 said:
@Shewgenja said:

Know what is better than backwards compatibility?

Having games this gen.

Plenty of big exclusives games here the way I see it.

Halo 5

Forza 6

Fable Legends

Tomb Raider

Scalebound

Crackdown 3

Phantam Dust

Quantum Break

ReCore (new IP)

Sea of Thieves (new IP)

Day Z (new IP)

Gears of War 4

Day Z isn't a new IP

lol my bad.

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#41  Edited By lamprey263
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That's a decent start, I don't have my Xbox 360 anymore (was going to replace it but now I might not have to) but I still own the digital rights to quite a few games. Will be glad to play both the Toy Soldier games again. Have Defense Grid as well (have the 2nd game for the XBO too, still need to play). Surprised Small Arms made the list.

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#42  Edited By eNT1TY
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Sony won't be able to match it either, don't think the ps4 can software emulate ps3. You can thank the cell... the absolute best one could hope they can do is full ps1/ps2 bc and unlock free access to psnow versions of games if you own the disc.

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#43  Edited By blackace
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@freedomfreak said:

If anything, it should be compared to PSNow.

Correct. I never downloaded PSNow and I don't plan to. I have a PS3 that will play all PS1 and PS2 games, so I don't really need PSNow. Sony can suck it for trying to milk their fanbase by paying for older games again when they already own them. I'd rather own the disks.

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@Zero_epyon said:

You mean PS Now? But in any case, It's only if developers approve it, so it's not like you have instant access to all of the games. And I think you have to download the games too, even if you have it on disk. Kinda weird.

No you don't. You just put your disk in and play. Or you can download the game from the disk and play the game. All your digital games will automatically carry over from XBox 360 to XB1. Neither of these things you can do on the PS4.

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#44  Edited By kuu2
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This is a glorious day, and a glorious thread.

The tears wit this move are some of the best ever.

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#45 NyaDC
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Really glad to be a preview member right now, gonna try this out when I get home!

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#46  Edited By daveg1
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the consoles should have been backwards compatible from the get go.. congrats to MS for doing this tough.. but i bet the old games in the 2nd hand stores prices go up ha ha.

sony should be forced to do the same..

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#47  Edited By SolidTy
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@ImBatman- said:

Here's the list of games with BC.

Pretty lame but they did promise that list will go up to 100 titles by the holidays.

Only a tiny 18 BC games right now...but they are shooting for 100 BC games.

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#48 StormyJoe
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@Shewgenja said:

Well, when you have a conference that meh, I guess anything is a victory. Hey, at least the XBone has games now.

"meh"? Don't be such a fanboy. That was a pretty good conference. Lots of game releases, a new controller, BC, hololens...

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#49 Scipio8
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Phil Spencer just killed PSnow

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#50  Edited By DocSanchez
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BC is a good thing. No one can deny that. People will, but they're either stupid or lying.