Would the lack of Dolby Vision and complete Dolby Atmos support make a significant dent on PS5's success?

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Poll Would the lack of Dolby Vision and complete Dolby Atmos support make a significant dent on PS5's success? (55 votes)

Absolutely! 11%
Probably. 9%
Doubt it. 42%
No way! 38%

Would the lack of Dolby Vision and complete Dolby Atmos support make a significant dent on PS5's success?

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#1 lundy86_4
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I doubt it...7.1.2 is expensive. Is Dolby Vision widely available? I know my Q8FN doesn't support it, and tbh I haven't much researched it.

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Doubt it.

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#3  Edited By Ant_17
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Nah.

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#4  Edited By Pedro
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I heard that most people prefer to take a picture of their ears and send it for custom audio profiles. So, the PS5 is going to dominate when it comes to audio.๐Ÿ˜Ž

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@Pedro said:

I heard that most people prefer to take a picture of their ears and send it for custom audio profiles. So, the PS5 is going to dominate when it comes to audio.๐Ÿ˜Ž

When you hear the word fetish, is this what you first see in your mind?

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#6 Howmakewood
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if you take into account the number of people that have the systems to make use of those? No, it won't.

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#7  Edited By Ezekiel43
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Gamers don't give a damn about sound. Almost none of them have speaker systems, which is why Sony didn't bother including Atmos.

Dolby Vision and HDR10 look very similar, according to Blu-ray.com members who I trust more about home theater stuff than users here.

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#8  Edited By tormentos
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Yes pre-order canceled.

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@rzxv04 said:
@Pedro said:

I heard that most people prefer to take a picture of their ears and send it for custom audio profiles. So, the PS5 is going to dominate when it comes to audio.๐Ÿ˜Ž

When you hear the word fetish, is this what you first see in your mind?

It's the new Dan Schneider fetish... Instead of feet, it's the ears.

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#10  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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I don't give a flying poo about these things. Might it lose some sales? I suppose... but I doubt almost any people choose their console on these terms. At most it might be one of a number of reasons that add up to someone's ultimate choice against ps5.

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Nah, cows are used to paying for less. Take power for instance.

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@ezekiel43 said:

Gamers don't give a damn about sound. Almost none of them have sound systems, which is why Sony didn't bother including Atmos.

Dolby Vision and HDR10 look very similar, according to Blu-ray.com members who I trust more about home theater stuff than users here.

Then why did Sony go all out on their own version if sound isn't important.

Gaming and film/series watching on my Dolby Vision TV and Dolby Atmos surround is pretty awesome.

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#13 Ezekiel43
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https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=18217935&postcount=2

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=18218020&postcount=6

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=18218658&postcount=8

Dolby Vision, HDR10, very similar.

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@tdkmillsy said:

Then why did Sony go all out on their own version if sound isn't important.

It's not important enough to them or their customers for speaker systems. That they designed their sound for freaking controller connected 3.5 mm jack headphones says it all.

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As long as xsx has Atmos, I really couldn't care less what ps5 is using.....just a bit bizarre that Sony TVs that have Dolby Vision aren't supported by Sony's ps5.

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@ezekiel43 said:
@tdkmillsy said:

Then why did Sony go all out on their own version if sound isn't important.

It's not important enough to them or their customers for speaker systems. That they designed their sound for freaking controller connected 3.5 mm jack headphones says it all.

ROFL

https://blog.playstation.com/2020/10/06/experience-ps5s-tempest-3d-audiotech-with-compatible-headsets-at-launch-tv-virtual-surround-sound-coming-after-launch/

They invested in developing their own 3d audio system instead of utilizing one that already existed.

They even made a big thing about it at their first launch event.

Gamers that dont value good audio are simply not serious gamers.

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#17 Chutebox
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@ezekiel43: I care very much about sound ๐Ÿ˜ก

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@tdkmillsy said:

Then why did Sony go all out on their own version if sound isn't important.

Gaming and film/series watching on my Dolby Vision TV and Dolby Atmos surround is pretty awesome.

Probably to save them royalties, same reason as well all digital xbox and PS5 exist, they save the blu-ray royalties on those units, and have wider margin on winning as well on digital games.

The PS5 will be fine if there is something sony knows is sound, sony was working on sound equipment before MS was even incorporated.

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@sealionact said:

As long as xsx has Atmos, I really couldn't care less what ps5 is using.....just a bit bizarre that Sony TVs that have Dolby Vision aren't supported by Sony's ps5.

They probably want to sell some mediocre bluray players.

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#20 Ghost_of_Phobos
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How else will Cerny get his collection of ear photos?

Sony has a long history in audio, even if they don't release the absolute best they are trustworthy and o release quality.

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#21  Edited By Ezekiel43
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@Chutebox said:

@ezekiel43: I care very much about sound ๐Ÿ˜ก

Most gamers don't. Most use TV speakers, soundbars or cheap headphones. So I can't blame Sony for not including Atmos.

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#22 Chutebox
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@ezekiel43: Ya, they missing out big time. I can't imagine playing without SS.

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@ghost_of_phobos said:

How else will Cerny get his collection of ear photos?

Sony has a long history in audio, even if they don't release the absolute best they are trustworthy and o release quality.

and yet a major amount of audio product sold by them are crap. .

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This is a bit dumb to compare. Dolby Vision offers 0 or even if there is, very little advantage over normal HDR10 contents and its only on very expensive TVs.

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#25 Ghost_of_Phobos
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@firedrakes: I don't think you know the meaning of the world crap. Sony is competent.

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@tormentos said:
@tdkmillsy said:

Then why did Sony go all out on their own version if sound isn't important.

Gaming and film/series watching on my Dolby Vision TV and Dolby Atmos surround is pretty awesome.

Probably to save them royalties, same reason as well all digital xbox and PS5 exist, they save the blu-ray royalties on those units, and have wider margin on winning as well on digital games.

The PS5 will be fine if there is something sony knows is sound, sony was working on sound equipment before MS was even incorporated.

So it is important but they want to save royalties?

make your minds up

Removing something to save on royalties and investing in an alternative are 2 totally different things.

Dolby are the industry leading company in audio, whatever the reason to not support it isn't a smart move.

Even Sony TV's support Dolby Atmos.

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#27 sirk1264
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I think most gamers would not care or know about most of that stuff so I donโ€™t see any dent made in the PS5โ€™s success. The features are nice to have but not a requirement.

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#28 Bluestars
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they are not console defining features just added bonuses to the worlds best console

check the witcher out on netflix if you have a dolby vision tv...sweet

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#29  Edited By Ezekiel43
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@tdkmillsy said:

Even Sony TV's support Dolby Atmos.

Meaningless. The PS5 will do Atmos in the same way Sony televisions do Atmos, by sending the signal to the audio device that actually decodes Atmos with a feature called bitstreaming. Even the PS4 can play Atmos soundtracks through bitstreaming. Just watch the A Quiet Place Blu-ray and see. I don't think there actually are any 4K players that have Atmos built in. They all let the audio device do the decoding.

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#30 tdkmillsy
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@ezekiel43 said:
@tdkmillsy said:

Even Sony TV's support Dolby Atmos.

Meaningless. The PS5 will do Atmos in the same way Sony televisions do Atmos, by sending the signal to the audio device that actually decodes Atmos with a feature called bitstreaming. Even the PS4 can play Atmos soundtracks through bitstreaming. Just watch the A Quiet Place Blu-ray and see. I don't think there actually are any 4K players that have Atmos built in. They all let the audio device do the decoding.

That doesn't help when a game is outputting Sony 3D audio and the Sony TV cant understand it.

Its primarily a gaming machine not a blu-ray player.

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Dolby Vision will have to wait and see next year. Tempest seems like it's the same thing as Atmos. Not sure how Tempest works, if you'll need the Sony Specific headset.....? I know for Atmos on Xbox One X i have a cheap headset and got the Dolby atmos app for 20 bucks and it makes a huge difference, beats having to spend money on an expensive headset. Def sucked Ps4 didnt support it, trying to play modern warfare and spatial sound cues are horrendous. Hopefully Tempest will do the same thing for enabling software base solution for budget headsets like Atmos App.

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@howmakewood said:

if you take into account the number of people that have the systems to make use of those? No, it won't.

Dolby Atmos for headphones

My Turtle Beach head set take advantage of it

Dolby Vision on the other hand I do not .. but that like 120HZ at 4K over HDMI 2.1 most TV's dont have it yet. I give it 2 years before we see Dolby Vision and HDMI 2.1 on many TVs at a reasonable price

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@lundy86_4: Pretty much every TV manufacturer except Samsung offers Dolby Vision. One of the biggest downsides of owning a Samsung TV.

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#34 Mozelleple112
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As a videophile I am really hoping Sony's 4K blu-ray player includes Dolby Vision support for its movies.

Can anyone confirm or deny this? I have heard no mention of this.

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Hell I don't know... what I do know is that HDR10 looks amazing on my 4k120hz TV that is ready for HDMI 2.1 and I don't really give a shit since I have a good sound system and will have a great headset on the way shortly after launch. I seriously doubt the quality will be all that drastic.

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#36  Edited By Ezekiel43
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@BigBadBully said:

Tempest seems like it's the same thing as Atmos.

It's not. Maybe the same as Atmos for headphones. Seems like Tempest is just stereo, left and right sound. I think the most Atmos for the home can use in terms of separate channels is nine speakers, plus the sub woofers, which makes the sound placement more accurate. I've tried playing binaural recording demos with my Atmos system, and it just isn't impressive. Sounds like one set of sounds across the whole side of the speaker system. So I don't expect Tempest's sound to be good if you're not using headphones. Which I find lame, because I don't like wearing headphones all the time. I don't think Sony has ever talked about how speaker systems will work with Tempest. It's always been headphones, headphones, headphones.

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@ezekiel43: Yeah the difference between DV and HDR10 would probably be more noticeable if there were actual 12bit (which DV supports) high nit televisions out there.

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Well the lack of HD-DVD didnโ€™t hurt the PS3 , so Iโ€™m pretty sure the ps5 is going to be okay .

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@daredevils2k: That is the weakest damage control that has ever been stated on this board.

Things are rough for you guys.

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Feels to me that the PS5 doesn't support shit tbh. Where is the 1440p support? Its not difficult to do so, but they ain't doing it. Where is the freesync support, a must for 120fps games? We ain't getting it either. Very messy console.

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#41 Pedro
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@hardwenzen: PS5 supports 1440p. Haven't heard of the game called Demon Souls?๐Ÿ™ƒ

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#42  Edited By Chutebox
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@Pedro: I haven't. What is this Demon Souls?

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#43  Edited By Pedro
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@Chutebox: Oh, it's a PS3 remaster running at next gen framerates 60FPS at 1440p that is exclusive to the PS5. You must get if you like playing older games.๐Ÿ˜Ž

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#44 Chutebox
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@Pedro: Got a link? It's not coming up.

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#45 Pedro
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@Chutebox: Try resetting your router.๐Ÿ™ƒ

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#46 Chutebox
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@Pedro: I already have! This Demon Souls not popping up!

Is it a sequel to Demon's Souls?

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@Chutebox: That's odd.๐Ÿค” Post your search results with the exact words I am using.๐Ÿ˜Ž

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@Pedro: Ya, brings up Demon's Souls. But that's a different game!

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#49 Pedro
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@Chutebox: Oh really.๐Ÿค” It looks like you are showing signs of being oddly triggered. Is something bothering you?๐Ÿ™ƒ

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@Pedro: Brah, you made me think there was another souls type game. Shame on you.