Worst Console Launch? (Curse Of The 3RD Console???)

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Posted by INeedABetterOne (50 posts) 2 months, 10 days ago

Poll: Worst Console Launch? (Curse Of The 3RD Console???) (62 votes)

Xbone 45%
PS3 34%
3DS 0%
Other 21%

here's a previous albeit similar thread but emphasis is placed on the console's launch not life cycle as a whole

https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/most-overrated-console-33449652/

Xbone seems to have had the worst launch of them all being attached to the stupid Kinect peripheral which only brought up the console to a staggering $500 (self inflicted)

PS3 seems to have suffered greatly initially from the addition of the cell processor, blu ray format & the difficulty to develop for (but at the very least they were pushing the standard)

(GameBoy > DS >3DS different iterations dont count as seperate consoles)

3DS must have been the biggest slap in the face for early adopters as it had a $80 price cut even when taking the ambassadors program into account i would imagine most consumers would have buyers remorse

is there any other honorable mentions?

is this about it?

is the 3rd console curse true?

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#1 Posted by I_P_Daily (10713 posts) -

Someone needshealing :(

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#2 Posted by thehig1 (7137 posts) -

Surely its the saturn ?

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#3 Posted by Sgt_Crow (6050 posts) -

€600,- for “teh cell” still cracks me up.

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#4 Posted by npiet1 (1802 posts) -

I think it's the "new" 3ds and not the 3ds. It's very confusing for a lot of people. It reminds me a lot of the Wii U.

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#5 Posted by Vaidream45 (1672 posts) -

N64 had a slow launch as well.

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#6 Posted by Litchie (23271 posts) -

Wasn't the PS3 launch utterly insane? 600 bucks? lol. That's gotta take the crown of shittery.

3DS launch was terrible as well.

Xbox One? I dunno. Did they force people who wanted the console to buy their kinect stuff? Then yeah, that's pretty terrible as well.

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#7 Posted by Litchie (23271 posts) -
@npiet1 said:

I think it's the "new" 3ds and not the 3ds. It's very confusing for a lot of people. It reminds me a lot of the Wii U.

Why is it confusing? It's not like phones, where they call them "ZX Pro" or something. Since this one is actually called "new", dumb people should also be able to know that it's the new and improved model.

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#8 Posted by sakaiXx (5071 posts) -

Cant seem to vote but anyhow I choose others. Sega did fuked themselves so hard they are in deep reds near the end of their console business.

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#9 Posted by freedomfreak (50988 posts) -

Anything Nintendo, at least the last 2 gens. I just forget I have a Nintendo console around.

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#10 Posted by poptart (7246 posts) -

@vaidream45 said:

N64 had a slow launch as well.

I was just going to suggest that one. I unfondly remember queuing from some stupid hour in the morning in the UK as the shop in question was due to receive around 15 or so N64's, however when the doors eventually opened it turned out they had 2. My Turok dreams were shattered.

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#11 Posted by npiet1 (1802 posts) -

@Litchie said:
@npiet1 said:

I think it's the "new" 3ds and not the 3ds. It's very confusing for a lot of people. It reminds me a lot of the Wii U.

Why is it confusing? It's not like phones, where they call them "ZX Pro" or something. Since this one is actually called "new", dumb people should also be able to know that it's the new and improved model.

For the same reason people confused the Wii and the Wii U. It's an entirely new console, people know its new and improved. They just don't know how.

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#12 Posted by uninspiredcup (31405 posts) -

Probably the Sega Saturn. Back when E3 competitors shared a room, Sony announced directly after them the Playstation would be cheaper, effectively destroying their souls.

From there things only got worse.

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#13 Edited by Litchie (23271 posts) -
@npiet1 said:
@Litchie said:
@npiet1 said:

I think it's the "new" 3ds and not the 3ds. It's very confusing for a lot of people. It reminds me a lot of the Wii U.

Why is it confusing? It's not like phones, where they call them "ZX Pro" or something. Since this one is actually called "new", dumb people should also be able to know that it's the new and improved model.

For the same reason people confused the Wii and the Wii U. It's an entirely new console, people know its new and improved. They just don't know how.

Ah, so they should've explained the differences better? Yeah, I can probably agree to that. I thought it was easy to understand with New 3DS, but Wii U marketing was just crap. Many thought it was an accessory to Wii, and I don't blame them.

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#14 Edited by djoffer (1091 posts) -

You still need healing!

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#15 Posted by Sevenizz (3136 posts) -

The OP brings up the price of the X1 as a culprit of not being number One, but forgets to mention the competition had fewer features and not a camera peripheral.

The ps3 launched at a ridiculously high price which turned off buyers for years after launch. The reason? A bluray player. Gee, you add features, you charge more. This is not rocket science.

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#16 Posted by npiet1 (1802 posts) -

@Litchie: pretty much. Nintendo just needs to learn how dumb consumers are some times.

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#17 Edited by michaelmikado (159 posts) -

It's almost like people on here aren't old enough to remember the Sega Saturn launch:

In March 1995, Sega of America CEO Tom Kalinske announced that the Saturn would be released in the U.S. on "Saturnday" (Saturday) September 2, 1995.[47][48] However, Sega of Japan mandated an early launch to give the Saturn an advantage over the PlayStation.[49] At the first Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3) in Los Angeles on May 11, 1995, Kalinske gave a keynote presentation in which he revealed the release price of US$399 (including a copy of Virtua Fighter[50]), and described the features of the console. Kalinske also revealed that, due to "high consumer demand",[51] Sega had already shipped 30,000 Saturns to Toys "R" Us, Babbage's, Electronics Boutique, and Software Etc. for immediate release.[47] The announcement upset retailers who were not informed of the surprise release, including Best Buy and Walmart;[24][52][53]KB Toys responded by dropping Sega from its lineup.[47] Sony subsequently unveiled the retail price for the PlayStation: Sony Computer Entertainment America president Steve Race took the stage, said "$299", and then walked away to applause.[24][54][55] The Saturn's release in Europe also came before the previously announced North American date, on July 8, 1995, at a price of 399.99.[14] European retailers and press did not have time to promote the system or its games, harming sales.[56] After the PlayStation's European launch on September 29, it had already outsold the Saturn by a factor of three in the United Kingdom by early November 1995, where it was reported that Sony allocated ₤20 million to market the system during the holiday season compared to Sega's ₤4 million.[57][58]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Saturn

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#18 Posted by Sevenizz (3136 posts) -

@michaelmikado: ‘It's almost like people on here aren't old enough to remember the Sega Saturn launch‘

Huh? The OP didn’t give us the option. I remember the Saturn, I picked it over the playstation as it had better racing games which I mainly enjoyed back then.

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#19 Posted by Gamerno6666 (6550 posts) -

PS3

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#20 Posted by R4gn4r0k (30301 posts) -
@michaelmikado said:

The Saturn's release in Europe also came [...] on July 8, 1995, at a price of 399.99.[14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Saturn

Say wut?

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#21 Posted by SecretPolice (34771 posts) -

The One bundled with Kinect, weaker and priced $100.00 higher than the competition.

I swear this guy was working undercover for, Phony, the whole time. lol :P

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#22 Posted by michaelmikado (159 posts) -
@R4gn4r0k said:
@michaelmikado said:

The Saturn's release in Europe also came [...] on July 8, 1995, at a price of 399.99.[14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Saturn

Say wut?

For context:

U.S. Inflation Rate, $399 in 1995 to 2019

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics consumer price index, prices in 2019 are 65.38% higher than prices in 1995. The dollar experienced an average inflation rate of 2.12% per year during this period.

In other words, $399 in 1995 is equivalent in purchasing power to $659.86 in 2019, a difference of $260.86 over 24 years.

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#23 Posted by michaelmikado (159 posts) -

@Sevenizz said:

@michaelmikado: ‘It's almost like people on here aren't old enough to remember the Sega Saturn launch‘

Huh? The OP didn’t give us the option. I remember the Saturn, I picked it over the playstation as it had better racing games which I mainly enjoyed back then.

From the OP:

"is there any other honorable mentions?

is this about it?

is the 3rd console curse true?"

It was weird to throw the 3DS into the mix against home consoles so the only commonality between these were that they were relatively recent consoles. The OP asked about others so it seems, may not have been familiar with the launches of older consoles.

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#24 Posted by R4gn4r0k (30301 posts) -
@SecretPolice said:

The One bundled with Kinect, weaker and priced $100.00 higher than the competition.

I swear this guy was working undercover for, Phony, the whole time. lol :P

He closed down Ensemble and gutted Rare, among many other first and second party...

I still hate his guts.

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#25 Posted by SecretPolice (34771 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:
@SecretPolice said:

The One bundled with Kinect, weaker and priced $100.00 higher than the competition.

I swear this guy was working undercover for, Phony, the whole time. lol :P

He closed down Ensemble and gutted Rare, among many other first and second party...

I still hate his guts.

Yup, he couldn't have thrown a bigger monkey wrench into the works if he tried, fouling up all the great strides and momentum MS made with the 360.

Like I said, he must have been a double agent secretly working for, Sony. lol :P

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#26 Edited by Mandzilla (3623 posts) -

PS3 and Xbox One were all kinds of bad.

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#27 Posted by pyro1245 (4682 posts) -

PS3 was awesome on launch, just expensive. It got worse as Sony removed features.

XOne had a horrendous lauch. They should have stuck with their original vision instead of pulling a 180. It's only in the last year or 2 that the console has finally gained some ground with Game Pass and Play Anywhere. I'd like to see way more of this from all console manufacturers in the future.

Never owned a 3DS.

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#28 Posted by R4gn4r0k (30301 posts) -
@SecretPolice said:

Yup, he couldn't have thrown a bigger monkey wrench into the works if he tried, fouling up all the great strides and momentum MS made with the 360.

Like I said, he must have been a double agent secretly working for, Sony. lol :P

I think he is working for the mobile gaming industry now. I hope he ruins that industry good xD

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#29 Posted by Star67 (4345 posts) -

It has to be the Saturn

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#30 Posted by Techhog89 (3631 posts) -

GBA wasn't just in "iteration" of the Game Boy. It was a successor.

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#31 Posted by pmanden (449 posts) -

I chose "other" since there have been so many console launches that were infinitely worse than the xbox one. Probably the worst one is Commodore CDTV. Consumers didn't even know what the acronym meant, the console was ridicously expensive, and perhaps most embarrassingly, the console was based on very old Amiga technology.

The 64-bit Atari Jaguar and the way it was marketed was also a scandal. That piece of shit couldn't even compete with Sega's and Nintendo's older and cheaper consoles.

That being said, the xbox one reveal was also pretty embarrassing. How a company as professional as Microsoft could mess it up so badly is beyond me.

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#32 Posted by robert_sparkes (2561 posts) -

Atari Jaguar i remember walking into electronics boutique back In the 90's and nearly getting one for my birthday. Lucky escape an understatement.

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#33 Posted by ni6htmare01 (3685 posts) -

Is got to be a close one between PS3 and XB1

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#34 Posted by IMAHAPYHIPPO (3341 posts) -

Sega Saturn for sure. PS3 was pretty rough, as well.

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#35 Edited by Renegade_Fury (20415 posts) -

I guess I'll be the one to say it since no one else has yet, but the Saturn wasn't SEGA's third console, but their fourth, and that's only if you're ignoring add-ons and revisions. The SG-1000 was SEGA's first console, not the Mark III a.k.a Master System, but it didn't receive a release outside of Japan and minor markets, so it's often overlooked.

As for my pick, I'd like to go with the Atari 5200, but it isn't a clean cut deciphering Atari successors, so I guess I'll choose the Xbox One since it was a fumble from the X360.

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#36 Edited by ellos (1939 posts) -

Its gotta be the ps3 even though it came back. Kutaragi's madness stories are legendary to the industry. Probably more so then Don Matrix. I mean that shit was actually brewing from Ps2. There are developers who grew to hate him. We don't need gpu to or shit few month to launch we gonna need a gpu lol.

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#37 Edited by mobius_basic (575 posts) -

You guys can't forget the 3DO system that launched in 93 for a whopping $700! I got one a year after it released for $200 from a coworker that had one but needed to sell ASAP for some quick cash. $700 for a console back then....sheesh!!! For most it was out of grasp due to the price tag that helped it fail. There were some cool games but most were trash. It just fizzled out and disappeared.

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#38 Posted by michaelmikado (159 posts) -

The n-gage also deserves honorable mention as does the Nomad.

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#39 Posted by Telekill (8340 posts) -

PS3 had a rough first year with the high asking price and so few games to warrant the purchase.

That said, X1 had a worse first year due to the E3 reveal.

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#40 Posted by pmanden (449 posts) -

@robert_sparkes: Had you bought a Jaguar you would have been marked for life. Lucky you indeed.

And we haven't even mentioned the Atari Jaguar CD yet. Eeeeeewwwwww.

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#41 Edited by navyguy21 (15199 posts) -
@SecretPolice said:
@R4gn4r0k said:
@SecretPolice said:

The One bundled with Kinect, weaker and priced $100.00 higher than the competition.

I swear this guy was working undercover for, Phony, the whole time. lol :P

He closed down Ensemble and gutted Rare, among many other first and second party...

I still hate his guts.

Yup, he couldn't have thrown a bigger monkey wrench into the works if he tried, fouling up all the great strides and momentum MS made with the 360.

Like I said, he must have been a double agent secretly working for, Sony. lol :P

Maybe you guys are on to something....

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#42 Posted by SecretPolice (34771 posts) -

@navyguy21:

Lolol Nice find!!! :D

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#43 Posted by Xabiss (2377 posts) -

Sega Saturn by a long shot.

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#44 Posted by speedytimsi (816 posts) -

When you do a surprise Sega Saturn console launch....

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#45 Edited by Sagemode87 (1375 posts) -

PS3 easily had the rougher launch. 599 US dollars, "Ridge Raceeer" and "Giant Enemy Crabs" were echoed online for years after. Those were dark times to be a Sony fan. Not to mention the insane architecture. X1s reveal didn't even affect its launch as they reversed all its policies and they took kinect out a few months later. PS3s issues plagued it for much longer which makes its comeback all the more amazing.

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#46 Edited by deactivated-5c3c67cee15c8 (75 posts) -

Saturn

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#47 Posted by Needhealing (2042 posts) -

@i_p_daily said:

Someone needshealing :(

I know you can't take me off your mind, but that's not me. I'm just inspiring a new generation to create polls.

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#48 Posted by gameofthering (11244 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:
@michaelmikado said:

The Saturn's release in Europe also came [...] on July 8, 1995, at a price of 399.99.[14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Saturn

Say wut?

I'm surprised, but happy that mum actually paid that much for the Saturn. I wouldn't have liked to have missed out on the system.

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#49 Edited by PAL360 (29483 posts) -

PS3 was almost insulting (lies about the tech and capabilities, CGI trailers said to be gameplay, a ridiculous price, lack of good games at launch, etc. Luckly for Sony, their community was so blinded by PS2 success that they would eat anything.

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#50 Edited by EyeBoonsEyebrow (280 posts) -

You could say the Xbox 360 was the worst. Took a bit for issues to come out but the rrod issue was a massive blunder for Microsoft. I know it went through a couple of launch consoles myself