With FFXIII going multi-platform, what's stopping SO4 and Infinite Undiscovery?

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#1 GhettoBaron
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Clearly SE could make quite a bit of money porting both games to the PS3(maybe even the wii?), and SE has shown that prior announcements of exclusivity don't always hold up, so why not? I wouldn't be surprised if they both show up on the PS3 mid to late '09.

SE has expressively stated that the main reason that SO4 was developed for the 360 was because of its availability sooner, which begs the question, is it already in development for PS3 and they are waiting for a large event(TGS maybe) to make the announcement?

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#2 SSCyborg
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IU was a deal between Tri-Ace and MS, not SE.

And MS probably signed a contract for SO4.

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It's possible, but it is Microsoft we're talking about here.
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#4 kage_53
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I think SO4 will go multiplat because it wasn't mentioned as an exclusive. Infinite Undiscovery is out of the question since MS was funding the game.
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#5 ONLYDOD
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IU, definitley not. SO4, maybe.
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#6 jdt532
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Big truck loads of money that's what, and Sony has said countless times already they don't pay for exclusives. (allegedly)
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#7 GhettoBaron
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Well to make any game on any console you have to make a deal with it's producer. If you were a 3rd party developed, why would you sign a contract that only allowed you to develop on the console if you kept it exclusive? You'd never get any business unless you dealt with all the publishing costs.
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#8 ChrnoTrigger
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IU was mentioned as exclusive in the conference while SO4 was not, and since SE president dodged questions regarding it's exclusivity, I think it's safe to say it'll go multi-plat.
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#9 ChrnoTrigger
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Big truck loads of money that's what, and Sony has said countless times already they don't pay for exclusives. (allegedly)jdt532

No, they said they will pay if they have to. They did say that they wouldn't but I remember reading an article not too long ago where they said they'll pay if they should.

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#10 GhettoBaron
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Ahh I see, MS did fund Infinite Undiscovery, oh well. Guess its only SO4 then.
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#11 jdt532
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[QUOTE="jdt532"]Big truck loads of money that's what, and Sony has said countless times already they don't pay for exclusives. (allegedly)ChrnoTrigger

No, they said they will pay if they have to. They did say that they wouldn't but I remember reading an article not too long ago where they said they'll pay if they should.

Well then I wish they did that with FFXIII...

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#12 ChrnoTrigger
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[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

[QUOTE="jdt532"]Big truck loads of money that's what, and Sony has said countless times already they don't pay for exclusives. (allegedly)jdt532

No, they said they will pay if they have to. They did say that they wouldn't but I remember reading an article not too long ago where they said they'll pay if they should.

Well then I wish they did that with FFXIII...

They were too late, I guess. SE said they've been planning it for some time now.

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The big M
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#14 Adonymous
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SO4 is coming to PS3 (3-6 months after 360 release)

idk about Infinite...ms paid for it for sure...just not sure if its 100% exclusive or timed.

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#15 Digital-Hero
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"what's stopping SO4 and Infinite Undiscovery?"

The wallet. Sony is not paying for exclusives. Microsoft is.

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#16 kage_53
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[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

[QUOTE="jdt532"]Big truck loads of money that's what, and Sony has said countless times already they don't pay for exclusives. (allegedly)jdt532

No, they said they will pay if they have to. They did say that they wouldn't but I remember reading an article not too long ago where they said they'll pay if they should.

Well then I wish they did that with FFXIII...

I don't really blame them for that since it won't come out until 2010.
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#17 Bigboi500
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I think SE is just breaking away from Sony. They are already in deep with FFXIII and VS, so they will still come out for PS3. It's like it was when SE jumped ship from Nintendo to Sony, they go where the sales are.
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#18 mastarifla
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SO4 is coming to PS3 (3-6 months after 360 release)

idk about Infinite...ms paid for it for sure...just not sure if its 100% exclusive or timed.

Adonymous
do you have a link for the SO4?
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I think SE is just breaking away from Sony. They are already in deep with FFXIII and VS, so they will still come out for PS3. It's like it was when SE jumped ship from Nintendo to Sony, they go where the sales are.Bigboi500

If that were the case, then they'd go to wii in a heartbeat. Microsoft is only 3-4 million ahead, and is COMPLETELY absent in japan, their native country. So there's obviously a significant amount of funding coming from microsoft to keep SE on board and making titles for them, but of course with such major support they're alienating they're entire japanese audience on the next-gen consoles(which is extradionarily small anyway only about 3 million ps3 owners to 600k 360 owners). Which is why the majority of their titles are on DS until install bases get big enough to make a significant profit(maybe why ff13 will take 4 years to come out.

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#20 FF6fan
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They were too late, I guess. SE said they've been planning it for some time now.

ChrnoTrigger
Well i think they said it really was a last minute decision like a week before E3 and that they've been considering it for months. I think SO4 will be announced for the PS3 at one of the upcoming events (Leipzig,TGS, or the Square-enix party) because like someone said before it was never said to be exclusive to the 360 just that it was coming.
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#21 killerfist
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isn't UI published by Square enix?

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#22 SSCyborg
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isn't UI published by Square enix?

killerfist

Only in Japan because let's face it. They'll sell more than Microsoft.

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#23 GhettoBaron
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[QUOTE="killerfist"]

isn't UI published by Square enix?

SSCyborg

Only in Japan because let's face it. They'll sell more than Microsoft.

yea 8 instead of 7

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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]I think SE is just breaking away from Sony. They are already in deep with FFXIII and VS, so they will still come out for PS3. It's like it was when SE jumped ship from Nintendo to Sony, they go where the sales are.GhettoBaron

If that were the case, then they'd go to wii in a heartbeat. Microsoft is only 3-4 million ahead, and is COMPLETELY absent in japan, their native country. So there's obviously a significant amount of funding coming from microsoft to keep SE on board and making titles for them, but of course with such major support they're alienating they're entire japanese audience on the next-gen consoles(which is extradionarily small anyway only about 3 million ps3 owners to 600k 360 owners). Which is why the majority of their titles are on DS until install bases get big enough to make a significant profit(maybe why ff13 will take 4 years to come out.

Damn, cows lower the lead of MS every day.

By next week, you'll be saying "MS is only ahead by 1 million..."

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Money? MS has money on those two, Sony didn't pay the big bucks for FFXIII.
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#26 LibertySaint
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Microsoft is stopping it thats what...well so4 is actually rumored to be multi-platform but the other games are well lusive!
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[QUOTE="GhettoBaron"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]I think SE is just breaking away from Sony. They are already in deep with FFXIII and VS, so they will still come out for PS3. It's like it was when SE jumped ship from Nintendo to Sony, they go where the sales are.TBoogy

If that were the case, then they'd go to wii in a heartbeat. Microsoft is only 3-4 million ahead, and is COMPLETELY absent in japan, their native country. So there's obviously a significant amount of funding coming from microsoft to keep SE on board and making titles for them, but of course with such major support they're alienating they're entire japanese audience on the next-gen consoles(which is extradionarily small anyway only about 3 million ps3 owners to 600k 360 owners). Which is why the majority of their titles are on DS until install bases get big enough to make a significant profit(maybe why ff13 will take 4 years to come out.

Damn, cows lower the lead of MS every day.

By next week, you'll be saying "MS is only ahead by 1 million..."

What? I thought the PS3 was ahead of the 360 in sales. :P

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#28 killerfist
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[QUOTE="killerfist"]

isn't UI published by Square enix?

SSCyborg

Only in Japan because let's face it. They'll sell more than Microsoft.

I thought it was published by SE worldwide. I remember seeing it in trailers.

oh well. but yeah, it'll probably sell more in japan

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#29 SSCyborg
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[QUOTE="SSCyborg"][QUOTE="killerfist"]

isn't UI published by Square enix?

killerfist

Only in Japan because let's face it. They'll sell more than Microsoft.

I thought it was published by SE worldwide. I remember seeing it in trailers.

oh well. but yeah, it'll probably sell more in japan

Oh looks like Microsoft is getting SE to publish it worldwide. But it'll remain exclusive to xbox is what I'm saying because MS originally went out and made a deal for this to be exclusive.

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#30 club-sandwich
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That MS actually pays for exclusiveness.
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#31 killerfist
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[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="SSCyborg"][QUOTE="killerfist"]

isn't UI published by Square enix?

SSCyborg

Only in Japan because let's face it. They'll sell more than Microsoft.

I thought it was published by SE worldwide. I remember seeing it in trailers.

oh well. but yeah, it'll probably sell more in japan

Oh looks like Microsoft is getting SE to publish it worldwide. But it'll remain exclusive to xbox is what I'm saying because MS originally went out and made a deal for this to be exclusive.

yea probably
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From what I remember SE stated that SO4 would be currently exlusive "Due to certain conditions" that I would assume is time exclusive for truckloads of cash.
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#33 Roushrsh
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IU was a deal between Tri-Ace and MS, not SE.

And MS probably signed a contract for SO4.

SSCyborg

What this guy said only MS probably paid for a timed exclusivity...

Edit : for star ocean that is

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#34 leadernator
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Same thing that's stopping FFversusXIII. There will be exclusives for both consoles.
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#35 AgentA-Mi6
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Same thing that's stopping FFversusXIII. There will be exclusives for both consoles.leadernator

Im not so sure anymore, The 360 could get all of them and the Ps3 lose the remaining one

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#36 leadernator
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[QUOTE="leadernator"]Same thing that's stopping FFversusXIII. There will be exclusives for both consoles.AgentA-Mi6

Im not so sure anymore, The 360 could get all of them and the Ps3 lose the remaining one

Well it was Square saying they wanted to even things up between the two.

If Versus was coming to 360, they would have announced it along with XIII.

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[QUOTE="TBoogy"][QUOTE="GhettoBaron"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]I think SE is just breaking away from Sony. They are already in deep with FFXIII and VS, so they will still come out for PS3. It's like it was when SE jumped ship from Nintendo to Sony, they go where the sales are.ChrnoTrigger

If that were the case, then they'd go to wii in a heartbeat. Microsoft is only 3-4 million ahead, and is COMPLETELY absent in japan, their native country. So there's obviously a significant amount of funding coming from microsoft to keep SE on board and making titles for them, but of course with such major support they're alienating they're entire japanese audience on the next-gen consoles(which is extradionarily small anyway only about 3 million ps3 owners to 600k 360 owners). Which is why the majority of their titles are on DS until install bases get big enough to make a significant profit(maybe why ff13 will take 4 years to come out.

Damn, cows lower the lead of MS every day.

By next week, you'll be saying "MS is only ahead by 1 million..."

What? I thought the PS3 was ahead of the 360 in sales. :P

LOL. :)

Tomorrow, the Ps3 will be ahead of the Wii by like 2 million...

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I think SE is just breaking away from Sony. They are already in deep with FFXIII and VS, so they will still come out for PS3. It's like it was when SE jumped ship from Nintendo to Sony, they go where the sales are.Bigboi500

not true about th sales part the only reason why nintendo lost square was the cartridge were too expenseive

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The fact that FFXIII>Every 360 rpg...oh wait...
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#40 lawlessx
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Infinite Undiscovery was funded by microsoft before they gave the rights to square. star ocean 4 looks to be a timed exclusive. i whouldnt expect it to be released on the ps3 a short few months after the 360 though..
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[QUOTE="SSCyborg"][QUOTE="killerfist"]

isn't UI published by Square enix?

killerfist

Only in Japan because let's face it. They'll sell more than Microsoft.

I thought it was published by SE worldwide. I remember seeing it in trailers.

oh well. but yeah, it'll probably sell more in japan

They did let SE publish it worldwide, but MS still has the rights for the game. They gave SE the publishing rights to sell more games.

I can see Star Ocean 4 going to the PS3, but right now it is only coming to the 360. I don't want to assume what it is going to happen.