With Blizzard dead and Bioware in turmoil, is Bethesda #1?

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#1 trollop_scat
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The Blizzard we grew up with is no more. While Diablo 2 and Warcraft 3 remain high-water marks in gaming, the cash cow that was WoW attracted too many bean counters who systematically ruined Blizzard, culminating in the most disappointing video game of all time: Diablo 3. Don't bother getting your hopes up for Titan, which will have facebook connections and God knows what other casual crap in it. Blizzard is dead.

Bioware seems to be going through internal struggles of its own, and Bioshock Infinite is more of a wait-and-see than it is a definite Day One purchase for anyone who's been paying attention to all the important people bailing out on the project. I'm cautiously optimistic but I'll wait to see what GAMERS, not crappy review sites, have to say about the game before buying it.

Bethesda, on the other hand, just made a new Skyrim DLC that is already getting AAA scores. Fallout 3 and Skyrim are two of the best games of this gen, hands down. If you disagree you're either a 10 year old Sheep or a CoD knuckle-dragger - period. Bethesda is probably working on Fallout 4 as you read this, which should get every red blooded gamer hyped!

So... is Bethesda the best developer left standing? I think so...

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#2 Thefatness16
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lolBethesda.

Last great game they made was a decade ago.

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Skypoop Poopout 3 Poopilivion Poopthesda
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Diablo 3 was a massive success, even if it was a disappointment to many. Bioware just released the ending to one of the most regarded series of the gen. And Bethesda has... DLC... yeah
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#5 Jonwh18
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:lol: bethesda can't really even be called a devloper when they leave their games full of glitches. The PC community has to do have the work to mold the pile of **** they try to sell into an actual game. The console gamers just straight up get screwed. Bethesda is terrible so :lol:no

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TC: Blizzard is dead because I don't like what they did :cry:

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#7 DarkLink77
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Diablo III is a huge disappointment, but it's still better than every single game Bethesda has ever made. And Blizzard also recently released StarCraft II. You know, the best RTS game of all time. And you're comparing that to Bethesda's DLC and crap like Fallout 3 and Skyrim? :lol:

Bethesda is trash. Even BioWare makes better games.

Come at me.

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#8 fernandmondego_
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BioShock is not from BioWare.
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TC: Blizzard is dead because I don't like what they did :cry:

lundy86_4
Pretty much, yeah.
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Skypoop Poopout 3 Poopilivion Poopthesdafunsohng

This made me laugh out loud.

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R*. RDR. Das some good stuff yo.

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#12 Blabadon
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R*. RDR. Das some good stuff yo.

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I laughed. Hard.
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#13 fernandmondego_
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R*. RDR. Das some good stuff yo.

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Not fair, Rockstar is a publishing subsidiary with multiple developers of which some are not even own by the parent company.
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TC: Blizzard is dead because I don't like what they did :cry:

lundy86_4

No real gamer likes what they did, and they're even threatening to make facebook a part of their new MMO.

I get it - you're young, dumb, and full of casual. Good for you, kiddo. Make sure you link your Titan account with faebook so your gramma can see that awesome pair of enchanted clown shoes you found. In the meantime, go back to reddit and continue ruining jokes started... elsewhere.

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I gag at the thought of anyone thinking either Bioware or Bethesda were ever near Blizzard status.

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#16 Zophar87
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Blizzard is dead? wat?

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#17 funsohng
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[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

R*. RDR. Das some good stuff yo.

Blabadon
I laughed. Hard.

Now you know how I feel whenever you say Uncharted 1 is good.
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#18 enterawesome
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How is Blizzard dead? Diablo 3 was a pile of sh*t of but Starcraft is something ill, man. Can't wait for HotS.
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#19 DarkLink77
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Blizzard is dead? wat?

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TC is an idiot.
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#20 lundy86_4  Online
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No real gamer likes what they did, and they're even threatening to make facebook a part of their new MMO.

trollop_scat

Incorrect. Unless you have some hard data which indicates such.

I'm a real gamer and enjoyed Diablo 3.

I get it - you're young, dumb, and full of casual. Good for you, kiddo. Make sure you link your Titan account with faebook so your gramma can see that awesome pair of enchanted clown shoes you found. In the meantime, go back to reddit and continue ruining jokes started... elsewhere.

trollop_scat

26 is young? Attending uni for a Poli Sci Honours is dumb?:?

You're a little b*tch who can't accept differing opinions. Grow up, you pompous douche.

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#21 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

R*. RDR. Das some good stuff yo.

funsohng
I laughed. Hard.

Now you know how I fee whenever you say Uncharted 1 is good.

I see, it's excruciatingly painful. At least UC1 didn't get >9.5s and GOTYs most places. I swear, 2010 was the year critics went insane.
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Bioware seems to be going through internal struggles of its own, and Bioshock Infinite is more of a wait-and-see than it is a definite Day One purchase for anyone who's been paying attention to all the important people bailing out on the project. I'm cautiously optimistic but I'll wait to see what GAMERS, not crappy review sites, have to say about the game before buying it.

trollop_scat

what does bioware have to do with bioshock infinite? :?

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#23 Zophar87
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

TC: Blizzard is dead because I don't like what they did :cry:

trollop_scat

No real gamer likes what they did, and they're even threatening to make facebook a part of their new MMO.

I get it - you're young, dumb, and full of casual. Good for you, kiddo. Make sure you link your Titan account with faebook so your gramma can see that awesome pair of enchanted clown shoes you found. In the meantime, go back to reddit and continue ruining jokes started... elsewhere.

If you think Blizzard is casual then you need to GTFO off WoW. You probably didn't even make it to Skeleton King on prenerf Inferno.

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#24 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="Blabadon"] I laughed. Hard.

Now you know how I fee whenever you say Uncharted 1 is good.

I see, it's excruciatingly painful. At least UC1 didn't get >9.5s and GOTYs most places. I swear, 2010 was the year critics went insane.

Deserved it more than ME2 did, that's for sure. But StarCraft II, Reach, or SMG2 not sweeping the awards is a crime. Or God of War III, for certain things.
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[QUOTE="trollop_scat"]

Bioware seems to be going through internal struggles of its own, and Bioshock Infinite is more of a wait-and-see than it is a definite Day One purchase for anyone who's been paying attention to all the important people bailing out on the project. I'm cautiously optimistic but I'll wait to see what GAMERS, not crappy review sites, have to say about the game before buying it.

CaseyWegner

what does bioware have to do with bioshock infinite? :?

Clearly made by the same person.

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#26 funsohng
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="Blabadon"] I laughed. Hard.

Now you know how I fee whenever you say Uncharted 1 is good.

I see, it's excruciatingly painful. At least UC1 didn't get >9.5s and GOTYs most places. I swear, 2010 was the year critics went insane.

Or it's because you have bad taste and RDR was actually good? I mean, liking UC1 just shows the world how awful taste you currently possess. >.>
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#27 funsohng
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="funsohng"] Now you know how I fee whenever you say Uncharted 1 is good.

I see, it's excruciatingly painful. At least UC1 didn't get >9.5s and GOTYs most places. I swear, 2010 was the year critics went insane.

Deserved it more than ME2 did, that's for sure. But StarCraft II, Reach, or SMG2 not sweeping the awards is a crime. Or God of War III, for certain things.

God of War III had a very sexy scene, I give you that.
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#28 enterawesome
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="Blabadon"] I laughed. Hard.

Now you know how I fee whenever you say Uncharted 1 is good.

I see, it's excruciatingly painful. At least UC1 didn't get >9.5s and GOTYs most places. I swear, 2010 was the year critics went insane.

RDR is the WOORRRSSSTTTT. People treat the story like it's some godly western, but in reality it's about a rape-enabling, mass murderering, despicable POS. Also the first four hours is herding cows and doing chores.
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#29 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="funsohng"] Now you know how I fee whenever you say Uncharted 1 is good.

I see, it's excruciatingly painful. At least UC1 didn't get >9.5s and GOTYs most places. I swear, 2010 was the year critics went insane.

Or it's because you have bad taste and RDR was actually good? I mean, liking UC1 just shows the world how awful taste you currently possess. >.>

L1/LT + R1/RT over and over and over and over and over again with the worst horse mechanics ever do not make for a good game. I have great taste in games. Of course, I am a little biased towards myself.
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#30 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Blabadon"] I see, it's excruciatingly painful. At least UC1 didn't get >9.5s and GOTYs most places. I swear, 2010 was the year critics went insane.

Deserved it more than ME2 did, that's for sure. But StarCraft II, Reach, or SMG2 not sweeping the awards is a crime. Or God of War III, for certain things.

God of War III had a very sexy scene, I give you that.

God of War III had one of the best opening segments in any game I've ever played. Too bad it kinda blows it at the end.
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="funsohng"] Now you know how I fee whenever you say Uncharted 1 is good.enterawesome
I see, it's excruciatingly painful. At least UC1 didn't get >9.5s and GOTYs most places. I swear, 2010 was the year critics went insane.

RDR is the WOORRRSSSTTTT. People treat the story like it's some godly western, but in reality it's about a rape-enabling, mass murderering, despicable POS. Also the first four hours is herding cows and doing chores.

I thought RDR was insanely overrated, personally.

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#32 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="funsohng"] Now you know how I fee whenever you say Uncharted 1 is good.

I see, it's excruciatingly painful. At least UC1 didn't get >9.5s and GOTYs most places. I swear, 2010 was the year critics went insane.

Deserved it more than ME2 did, that's for sure. But StarCraft II, Reach, or SMG2 not sweeping the awards is a crime. Or God of War III, for certain things.

I have yet to play ME2. But I very much doubt RDR is better than it.
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#33 Blabadon
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herding cowsenterawesome
No matter how bad you think UC1 might be, it had nothing as bad as this.
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26 is young? Attending uni for a Poli Sci Honours is dumb?:?

lundy86_4

HAAAA HAHAHAHAAAA!

You're 26 and still an undergrad seeking a liberal arts degree? Oh God, my sides! The fact you even admitted that is just classic! I don't even wanna know what your student loans tab is at, or how you plan on repaying them :lol:

It all makes sense now, of COURSE you like Blizzard! HAA HAHAHAHAAAA...

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Since when Blizzard died? I wonder
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#36 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Blabadon"] I see, it's excruciatingly painful. At least UC1 didn't get >9.5s and GOTYs most places. I swear, 2010 was the year critics went insane.

Deserved it more than ME2 did, that's for sure. But StarCraft II, Reach, or SMG2 not sweeping the awards is a crime. Or God of War III, for certain things.

I have yet to play ME2. But I very much doubt RDR is better than it.

Your opinion on RDR is kinda invalid at this point, Blab. :P
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#37 enterawesome
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Blabadon"] I see, it's excruciatingly painful. At least UC1 didn't get >9.5s and GOTYs most places. I swear, 2010 was the year critics went insane.

Deserved it more than ME2 did, that's for sure. But StarCraft II, Reach, or SMG2 not sweeping the awards is a crime. Or God of War III, for certain things.

I have yet to play ME2. But I very much doubt RDR is better than it.

Do not listen to DarkLink, he's poisoning you with lies surrounded by small truths. Mass Effect 2 is better than RDR, as are most video games.
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HAAAA HAHAHAHAAAA!

you're 26 and still an undergrad seeking a liberal arts degree? Oh God, sides! The fact you even admitted that is just classic! I don't even wanna know what your student loans tab is at, or how you plan on repaying them :lol:

It all makes sense now, of COURSE you like Blizzard! HAA HAHAHAHAAAA...

trollop_scat

Yep. Things like having a job which got me a part on a TV show proved to be more fortuitous :lol: Idiot.

My student loan is at zero :)

----

Do you want to keep laughing? :lol:

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#39 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Deserved it more than ME2 did, that's for sure. But StarCraft II, Reach, or SMG2 not sweeping the awards is a crime. Or God of War III, for certain things.

I have yet to play ME2. But I very much doubt RDR is better than it.

Do not listen to DarkLink, he's poisoning you with lies surrounded by small truths. Mass Effect 2 is better than RDR, as are most video games.

Lies and slander. Mass Effect 2 is one of the most overrated games I've ever played in my life.
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Not even close. I had to literally force myself not to pay SCII again, it was consuming my life.
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#41 Zophar87
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[QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="Blabadon"] I have yet to play ME2. But I very much doubt RDR is better than it.DarkLink77
Do not listen to DarkLink, he's poisoning you with lies surrounded by small truths. Mass Effect 2 is better than RDR, as are most video games.

Lies and slander. Mass Effect 2 is one of the most overrated games I've ever played in my life.

This.

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#42 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Deserved it more than ME2 did, that's for sure. But StarCraft II, Reach, or SMG2 not sweeping the awards is a crime. Or God of War III, for certain things.

I have yet to play ME2. But I very much doubt RDR is better than it.

Your opinion on RDR is kinda invalid at this point, Blab. :P

Mine and hundreds of others on this site. I should make a list of how many people on SW alone think RDR is overrated as hell. I can't even justify it being so high, which I normally somewhat can for hugely overrated games (Gears 3, Uncharted 3).
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#43 moistsandwich
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The Blizzard we grew up with is no more. While Diablo 2 and Warcraft 3 remain high-water marks in gaming, the cash cow that was WoW attracted too many bean counters who systematically ruined Blizzard, culminating in the most disappointing video game of all time: Diablo 3. Don't bother getting your hopes up for Titan, which will have facebook connections and God knows what other casual crap in it. Blizzard is dead.

Bioware seems to be going through internal struggles of its own, and Bioshock Infinite is more of a wait-and-see than it is a definite Day One purchase for anyone who's been paying attention to all the important people bailing out on the project. I'm cautiously optimistic but I'll wait to see what GAMERS, not crappy review sites, have to say about the game before buying it.

Bethesda, on the other hand, just made a new Skyrim DLC that is already getting AAA scores. Fallout 3 and Skyrim are two of the best games of this gen, hands down. If you disagree you're either a 10 year old Sheep or a CoD knuckle-dragger - period. Bethesda is probably working on Fallout 4 as you read this, which should get every red blooded gamer hyped!

So... is Bethesda the best developer left standing? I think so...

trollop_scat

WHA?!?!

Come back to these forums when you know the basics about what developer is making what software.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Deserved it more than ME2 did, that's for sure. But StarCraft II, Reach, or SMG2 not sweeping the awards is a crime. Or God of War III, for certain things.

God of War III had a very sexy scene, I give you that.

God of War III had one of the best opening segments in any game I've ever played. Too bad it kinda blows it at the end.

Good Lord what happened to you! Why have you become so.... soft???
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#45 Ly_the_Fairy
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Give it a rest guys....

God of War 3, Mass Effect 2, and RDR are all dreadfully dull and tedious.

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#46 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Blabadon"] I have yet to play ME2. But I very much doubt RDR is better than it.

Your opinion on RDR is kinda invalid at this point, Blab. :P

Mine and hundreds of others on this site. I should make a list of how many people on SW alone think RDR is overrated as hell. I can't even justify it being so high, which I normally somewhat can for hugely overrated games (Gears 3, Uncharted 3).

Gears 3 is overrated? :| wut.
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#47 Pikminmaniac
Member since 2006 • 11513 Posts

Best developers right now?

-Nintendo

-Rocksteady

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#48 funsohng
Member since 2005 • 29976 Posts
[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="Blabadon"] I see, it's excruciatingly painful. At least UC1 didn't get >9.5s and GOTYs most places. I swear, 2010 was the year critics went insane.

Or it's because you have bad taste and RDR was actually good? I mean, liking UC1 just shows the world how awful taste you currently possess. >.>

L1/LT + R1/RT over and over and over and over and over again with the worst horse mechanics ever do not make for a good game. I have great taste in games. Of course, I am a little biased towards myself.

What? I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am
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#49 DarkLink77
Member since 2004 • 32731 Posts
[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="funsohng"] God of War III had a very sexy scene, I give you that.

God of War III had one of the best opening segments in any game I've ever played. Too bad it kinda blows it at the end.

Good Lord what happened to you! Why have you become so.... soft???

Opening segment is boss. Pretending it's not is just wrong.
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#50 enterawesome
Member since 2009 • 9477 Posts
[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="Blabadon"] I have yet to play ME2. But I very much doubt RDR is better than it.

Do not listen to DarkLink, he's poisoning you with lies surrounded by small truths. Mass Effect 2 is better than RDR, as are most video games.

Lies and slander. Mass Effect 2 is one of the most overrated games I've ever played in my life.

It's not worse than RDR. It just isn't. I know ME2 is flawed, but for every flaw ME2 had RDR has and worse.