Witcher 3 on Consoles Will be 30fps Max, Probably Sub 1080p

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#101 Edited by lawlessx (48753 posts) -

@04dcarraher said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

@DarthaPerkinjan said:

1080p/60fps

It is a linear corridor shooter made exclusively for PS4 and I'll wait for DF's analysis (ehm Killzone 1080p) . Witcher 3 is first true next gen game and it's open world .

Also dont let the "inengine " trailer fool you people its no different from a tech demo or non interactive cinematic cut scene, using assets that are not in the game as you play. ND are known to downgrade the retail from E3 presentations.

selective memory loss huge problem on this board. i still remember what happened with resistance 3

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#102 Posted by Mr_Huggles_dog (7805 posts) -

@lawlessx said:

@04dcarraher said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

It is a linear corridor shooter made exclusively for PS4 and I'll wait for DF's analysis (ehm Killzone 1080p) . Witcher 3 is first true next gen game and it's open world .

Also dont let the "inengine " trailer fool you people its no different from a tech demo or non interactive cinematic cut scene, using assets that are not in the game as you play. ND are known to downgrade the retail from E3 presentations.

selective memory loss huge problem on this board. i still remember what happened with resistance 3

Selective finger pointing as well.

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#103 Edited by lawlessx (48753 posts) -

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@lawlessx said:

@04dcarraher said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

It is a linear corridor shooter made exclusively for PS4 and I'll wait for DF's analysis (ehm Killzone 1080p) . Witcher 3 is first true next gen game and it's open world .

Also dont let the "inengine " trailer fool you people its no different from a tech demo or non interactive cinematic cut scene, using assets that are not in the game as you play. ND are known to downgrade the retail from E3 presentations.

selective memory loss huge problem on this board. i still remember what happened with resistance 3

Selective finger pointing as well.

come again?

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#104 Posted by Mr_Huggles_dog (7805 posts) -

@lawlessx said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@lawlessx said:

selective memory loss huge problem on this board. i still remember what happened with resistance 3

Selective finger pointing as well.

come again?

Lol...too deep for you.

I'll let you figure it out.

Oooooo....enter nerd rage in 3,2,1

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#105 Posted by lawlessx (48753 posts) -

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@lawlessx said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@lawlessx said:

selective memory loss huge problem on this board. i still remember what happened with resistance 3

Selective finger pointing as well.

come again?

Lol...too deep for you.

I'll let you figure it out.

Oooooo....enter nerd rage in 3,2,1

so nothing then? alright

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#106 Edited by 04dcarraher (22915 posts) -

@lawlessx said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@lawlessx said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@lawlessx said:

selective memory loss huge problem on this board. i still remember what happened with resistance 3

Selective finger pointing as well.

come again?

Lol...too deep for you.

I'll let you figure it out.

Oooooo....enter nerd rage in 3,2,1

so nothing then? alright

I think someone is using their own finger to forget

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#107 Edited by Mr_Huggles_dog (7805 posts) -

@04dcarraher said:

@lawlessx said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@lawlessx said:

come again?

Lol...too deep for you.

I'll let you figure it out.

Oooooo....enter nerd rage in 3,2,1

so nothing then? alright

I think someone is using their own finger to forget

Wait....so you posted that thinking I'm a Sony fanboy?

HA....you guys assume too much and give yourselves to much credit for being insightful.

Dude...I'll be the first to say that the Killzone footage....total lie. I knew from the get-go thats not what the game was going to look like. In that "who are the biggest liars" poll thread....I PICKED SONY.

But I love their exclusives...and I'm not about to let a couple of douchebag PC losers gloat when their own system of choice has its own problems. I don't have allegiance to anyone....I didn't buy a PS3 until a couple of years ago....I've gamed on PC for 10+ years now.

The only thing you did was prove that ND lied about what the game looked like...which was the real intent....not to discredit me. Which is fine.

I say things to piss off some of the ppl here b/c they do it to me and others. And what I say has just as much validity as that little side by side pic of Uncharted. So be it.

And the world keeps turning.

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#108 Posted by PS4hasNOgames (2620 posts) -

who cares, pc gets the best versions of multi plats and 0 good exclusives.

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#109 Edited by kinectthedots (3383 posts) -

The problem I have with this is that this speaks of "consoles" as if they all have the same performance and we all know that isn't true.

Everyone in this thread is name dropping PS4 as if they have some kind of sticking point on bashing "consoles" when the article only says "consoles", not PS4.

That leads me to believe that they are shooting for some kind of parity between consoles and aiming for lowest common denominator which would be performance based on what the xbox one can achieve not the PS4...otherwise why would you give one performance estimate for two consoles with different performance capability?

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#110 Posted by RoboCopISJesus (2222 posts) -

@ps4hasnogames said:

and 0 good exclusives.

PC has the most aaa-aa exclusives, more than the 3 consoles combined, both this and last gen.

You will NOT respond to this.

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#111 Posted by Mr_Huggles_dog (7805 posts) -

@RoboCopISJesus said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

and 0 good exclusives.

PC has the most aaa-aa exclusives, more than the 3 consoles combined, both this and last gen.

You will NOT respond to this.

They are either niche games....multiplat games....or the few good indy games.

I DID reply to it.

Oh and old ass games since everything is backwards compatible. Which is cool but still playing CS 1.4 now....man.

Oh and they sell worse on the PC as well.

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#112 Posted by hrt_rulz01 (15555 posts) -

For a game like Witcher, I'd take 30FPS & sub-1080p anyday if it means more detail!

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#113 Edited by RoboCopISJesus (2222 posts) -

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@RoboCopISJesus said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

and 0 good exclusives.

PC has the most aaa-aa exclusives, more than the 3 consoles combined, both this and last gen.

You will NOT respond to this.

They are either niche games....multiplat games....or the few good indy games.

I DID reply to it.

Oh and old ass games since everything is backwards compatible. Which is cool but still playing CS 1.4 now....man.

Oh and they sell worse on the PC as well.

1. So great and amazing indy's, "niche", and multiplats don't count? Save your opinions.

2. I wasn't talking to you.

3. I was only talking about games in a specific gen year period, not "old backwards compatible games" or "CS 1.4" But you've seen the MC and GS lists, so you know this.

You lose on a factual basis. Spit out as many opinions as you want.

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#114 Edited by melonfarmerz (1294 posts) -

@mr_huggles_dog said:

In other news.....PC can't play Bloodborne in 1080p....or any "p" for that matter.

So...not like it's worth gloating over.

Implying you or any other Sony drone would care about Bloodborne if it were multiplat. Bloodborne looks fun, but hyping it past anything more than another Souls, a few months after DS2 came out, is just blindly hyping anything Sony.

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#115 Edited by Revan_911 (1709 posts) -

Well I'm not worried gonna upgrade and spend as much as it takes to play this silky smooth.

But it looks like they went overboard with this game, they added how much they wanted, insane ammount of detail and features that now they can't optimize it properly. You know, making the game they want to make screams a lot more passion than systematically dropping sequels every year.

I'm not complaining, I wish more devs were like this. Sure they will reach that coveted 30fps on consoles.

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#117 Posted by MK-Professor (4151 posts) -

The HD7850 can only do so much.

Cows will be lucky if w3 end up runing with 900p/30fps with high settings, or 1080p/30fps with a mix of medium-high settings

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#118 Posted by Revan_911 (1709 posts) -

They did a good job with the 360 version didn't they ?

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#120 Edited by RoboCopISJesus (2222 posts) -

All this thread needs now is Cranler to come in and say how huggles, ps4nogames, and amazonangry are all correct .....and that he is a true PC gamer.

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#121 Edited by Cloud_imperium (14406 posts) -

@Revan_911 said:

They did a good job with the 360 version didn't they ?

For an ancient hardware , it was OK but it doesn't hold candle in front of PC version .

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#122 Edited by Cloud_imperium (14406 posts) -
@RoboCopISJesus said:

All this thread needs now is Cranler to come in and say how huggles, ps4nogames, and amazonangry are all correct .....and that he is a true PC gamer.


And then this thread will become immortal .

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#123 Edited by RyviusARC (5675 posts) -

@MK-Professor said:

The HD7850 can only do so much.

Cows will be lucky if w3 end up runing with 900p/30fps with high settings, or 1080p/30fps with a mix of medium-high settings

I heard that Witcher 3 on consoles will be near minimum settings. It certainly won't be at high settings.

Can't wait to enjoy the game on PC at max settings and 2560x1440.

I just got my 1440p monitor and it makes a huge difference over 1080p.

Been playing Skies of Arcadia and Zone of the Enders 2nd Runner at 1440p and the resolution bump with AA really made a difference.

I don't know if I could go back to lower resolutions now.

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#124 Edited by SteXmaN (549 posts) -

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#125 Posted by Cloud_imperium (14406 posts) -

@SteXmaN said:

Lol . Brilliant .

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#126 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (6843 posts) -

hahahhahaha Xbone

What a crap console.

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#127 Posted by sailor232 (6829 posts) -

So consoles for exclusives, everything else PC. Ps4 and Xbox one just turned into a WiiU.

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#128 Posted by DEadliNE-Zero0 (6607 posts) -

People seem to forget with don't actually have next gen only multiplats yet. Besides EA UFC, i don't believe there's any other multiplatform game without a last gen version.

When you compare Black Flag or Watch Dogs to games like Unity or Witcher 3, you can see the increased level or detail, assets, map size, etc.

I've seen noticing this for a couple of weeks now. I think games lie Unity, TW3 and even Batman AK will be good benchmarks to see if either console can actually process the games at 1080p without large sacrifices. Obviously, this will be temporary has devs start to get more familiar with them, and i expect 1080p to be possible eventually, if that where to happen. Even with the pc architecture.

However, if neither console can reach 1080p, i'll have a good laugh with the PS4 fanbase after all the mocking of 900p for the xb1. It might be WD all over again.

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#129 Edited by IamAdorable (407 posts) -

At least they're passionate about the 30fps :p

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#130 Edited by FoxbatAlpha (10669 posts) -

The game is broken, not buying it.

Wait, so it is back to gaming like we used to before everything was announced as resolution and frame rate. Ok game on.

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#131 Edited by mikhail (2697 posts) -

@FoxbatAlpha said:

The game is broken, not buying it.

Wait, so it is back to gaming like we used to before everything was announced as resolution and frame rate. Ok game on.

Awesome, another console apologist!

So it's not that the game is so demanding your pitiful console can't run it properly, it's that "the game is broken"...right. Also, here's an observation...the people who say frame rate & resolution don't matter or are "just numbers" are console fanboys. Seeing a pattern here?

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#132 Posted by btk2k2 (440 posts) -

If an R7 265 can run Far Cry 3 at Ultra setting with 4xMSAA while averaging 33FPS and dropping no lower than 27FPS (Source) then there is no reason that with the correct tweaks to in game settings that the PS4 cannot run W3 at 1080p with a solid 30FPS.

The blurring from upscaling an image degrades the entire picture, it makes textures, shadows, aliasing etc worse. Reducing those settings down a small fraction and getting to 1080p is better for overall IQ than increasing those settings and dropping to 900p or lower. I bet 1080p with FXAA and 30FPS with good quality settings should be achievable on the PS4.

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#133 Edited by mikhail (2697 posts) -

@btk2k2 said:

If an R7 265 can run Far Cry 3 at Ultra setting with 4xMSAA while averaging 33FPS and dropping no lower than 27FPS (Source) then there is no reason that with the correct tweaks to in game settings that the PS4 cannot run W3 at 1080p with a solid 30FPS.

The blurring from upscaling an image degrades the entire picture, it makes textures, shadows, aliasing etc worse. Reducing those settings down a small fraction and getting to 1080p is better for overall IQ than increasing those settings and dropping to 900p or lower. I bet 1080p with FXAA and 30FPS with good quality settings should be achievable on the PS4.

What? Those games are made by different developers and are on different engines...Far Cry 3 came out two years ago, Witcher 3 isn't even finished yet. You're really reaching here trying to compare those games. Besides, you can't even directly compare the PS4's weak APU to any discrete graphics card, even a lowly R7 265.

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#134 Posted by zeeshanhaider (5524 posts) -

@AM-Gamer said:

@NFJSupreme: It was already running at full 1080p on PS4. According to the dev. Not sure why it mysteriously just cant do it now.

And the 900p DC begins. :D

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#135 Edited by zeeshanhaider (5524 posts) -

@mr_huggles_dog:

Hey dumb dumb, how much did you pay the chick for that photo? I can clearly see the disgust in her eyes? :P Poor girl. Such is the pathetic state of consololites and specially cows. Live with your 900pStation made up of cheap ass tablet CPU and a GPU barely matching a 570 from 2010.

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#136 Posted by clyde46 (49050 posts) -

@zeeshanhaider said:

@mr_huggles_dog:

Hey dumb dumb, how much did you pay the chick for that photo? I can clearly see the disgust in her eyes? :P Poor girl. Such is the pathetic state of consololites and specially cows. Live with your 900pStation made up of cheap ass tablet CPU and a GPU barely matching a 570 from 2010.

And this folks is where all the creditability went.

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#137 Posted by YearoftheSnake5 (9116 posts) -

The Witcher 3 looks stupid demanding. A steady framerate without screen tearing is what they need to shoot for. 900p or 720p is livable for a game like this on consoles. It won't matter to me, though. I'm getting it for PC with a high end 800 series card.

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#138 Posted by btk2k2 (440 posts) -

@mikhail said:

@btk2k2 said:

If an R7 265 can run Far Cry 3 at Ultra setting with 4xMSAA while averaging 33FPS and dropping no lower than 27FPS (Source) then there is no reason that with the correct tweaks to in game settings that the PS4 cannot run W3 at 1080p with a solid 30FPS.

The blurring from upscaling an image degrades the entire picture, it makes textures, shadows, aliasing etc worse. Reducing those settings down a small fraction and getting to 1080p is better for overall IQ than increasing those settings and dropping to 900p or lower. I bet 1080p with FXAA and 30FPS with good quality settings should be achievable on the PS4.

What? Those games are made by different developers and are on different engines...Far Cry 3 came out two years ago, Witcher 3 isn't even finished yet. You're really reaching here trying to compare those games. Besides, you can't even directly compare the PS4's weak APU to any discrete graphics card, even a lowly R7 265.

Far Cry 3 is still one of the best looking PC games you can buy. If you can get that level of IQ in an open world game using an R7 265 then regardless of engine or developers that should be what CDProjekt Red are targeting in terms of optimisation at a minimum. I would expect Ultra in Far Cry 3 to be more roughly aligned with Medium (perhaps High) in W3 with even higher settings available to take advantage of GPU advancements but that level of IQ is achievable with that grade of GPU performance so coming in under this baseline would be a disappointment.

The R7 265 and the PS4 GPU are almost exactly the same in performance metrics. It is the closest analogue to the PS4 GPU you can get, if you were to stick the PS4 GPU into a discrete card and then compare it to the R7 265 the differences would be within the margin of error, you are talking +/- 2%.

If W3 has similar IQ to Far Cry 3 Ultra, at 1080p and manages a stable 30 FPS on the PS4 then that is a job well done for CDProjekt Red, if it ends up a behind that level of IQ then not so much.

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#141 Posted by zeeshanhaider (5524 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@zeeshanhaider said:

@mr_huggles_dog:

Hey dumb dumb, how much did you pay the chick for that photo? I can clearly see the disgust in her eyes? :P Poor girl. Such is the pathetic state of consololites and specially cows. Live with your 900pStation made up of cheap ass tablet CPU and a GPU barely matching a 570 from 2010.

And this folks is where all the creditability went.

Cows never had any credit-ability to begin with.

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#142 Posted by blue_hazy_basic (30829 posts) -

30 FPS? Sweet cinematic experience awaits!

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#143 Posted by MonsieurX (37212 posts) -

@blue_hazy_basic said:

30 FPS? Sweet cinematic experience awaits!

Only available on consoles.

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#144 Posted by OhSnapitz (19275 posts) -

@faizan_faizan said:

@clyde46 said:

4 years is all I give this gen.

Less than that.

PS4 selling 10 mil in 9 months..

Good luck with that herms.. lol

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#146 Posted by MonsieurX (37212 posts) -

@scottpsfan14 said:
@MonsieurX said:

@blue_hazy_basic said:

30 FPS? Sweet cinematic experience awaits!

Only available on consoles.

I hate how Wii U gets a free pass for being a weak piece of shit. So much so that sheep hide behind PC to bash PS4/XB1's power. Hypocrisy on this site is criminal.

Wii U was never meant to be a graphic powerhouse

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#148 Posted by RoboCopISJesus (2222 posts) -

@Cloud_imperium said:

@SteXmaN said:

Lol . Brilliant .

lmao!

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#149 Edited by faizan_faizan (7869 posts) -

@OhSnapitz said:

Good luck with that.. lol

I don't make consoles.

On-topic:

Really interested in seeing how the PS4 version of The Witcher 3 stacks up against Infamous: Second Son. Obviously, the PC version will pulverize both.

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#150 Edited by zeeshanhaider (5524 posts) -

@faizan_faizan said:

@OhSnapitz said:

Good luck with that.. lol

I don't make consoles.

On-topic:

Really interested in seeing how the PS4 version of The Witcher 3 stacks up against Infamous: Second Son. Obviously, the PC version will pulverize both.

One thing for certain. The Witcher 3 will at least have shadows.