Wing Commander 3 (1994) Has Aged Incredibly Well. It's Unbelievable.

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#1  Edited By Cloud_Man
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What a great week this has been. I played Wing Commander 4 a long time ago. It slowly faded away from my memory. The thing I remembered the most was its punishingly difficult gameplay. I heard Wing Commander 3 was more forgiving on that account. It offered challenge and all the thrills still but it was more accessible. Decided to re- play all the space based video games (the ones I've had already played and also the ones I missed). Reached a conclusion that I should start with Wing Commander 3. What a great experience it was.

The first thing I immediately noticed was its sharp user interface. Even in high end PC games like System Shock 2 from 99, text was blurred throughout the game. There are mods that boost text resolution and vibrance. We don't need those here. Each and everything looks sharp and can be read easily. Cockpits are also highly detailed, and again this is 1994 game we're talking about, the one that was released for MS DOS. Another thing that I noticed was lack of loading screens. This is something that you expect from newer games and not older ones made for extremely weak PCs (by today's standards). Loading takes place in background when cutscenes are being played even during planetary missions.

When you first start your walkthrough, you think cutscenes are going to be cheesy with your typical FMV format from the 90s with odd alien design. But after a few opening moments, you get immersed into it. Actually I'd say there is certain charm to it, especially when you think about so many great new games from smaller studios that target similar art style and visual story telling in their game for "aesthetics" these days. It becomes more relatable as you dig deeper due to modern indie scene. However here you have A list cast from Hollywood who played a role in films like Back to the future, Star Wars, Lords of the rings and so on.

At first I thought it is a bit odd to see space cats as our enemies. But I think it's deeper than that. They are openly called space cats or kitties several times by humans instead of being portrayed as Smaug of computer games from the 90s. In return, Killrathi (space cats / villains) call us Apes. I think it's in the nature of intelligent species to look for patterns when they come across something or someone unfamiliar. They'll either conclude that their enemy is some animal that looks like a cat or an ape or they'll think that their opponent's race is inferior.

Gameplay has aged well too. There are small annoyances in 3 or 4 missions after mission 8 or 9. These are escort missions. One mission doesn't allow you to hit autopilot, so you are forced to travel manually for a long time instead of engaging some sort of jumpoint that allows you to move from point A to B between empty spaces with no activity. Luckily this mission can be skipped without getting a bad ending (yes there are branching paths). In another mission I was supposed to protect a convoy but as soon as I got closed to it, it exploded in my face (every time). Then dozens of enemies appeared out of nowhere and me and my wingman were forced to abandon our ships and eject.

I played this mission many times. I was underestimating importance of narrative in this game. I googled it. Turned out this was a scripted scene. You try to save civilians but the place is rigged with explosives. This is something I was expecting from modern linear shooters but not from a space sim from 94. That was the moment when I knew I was playing something very special. Once these convoy missions were done, others were your usual missions about kicking ass with no strings attached as you take fight back to enemy's doorstep as a response.

The story is dark and mature. The more you play the darker it becomes. The game deals with partial nudity, curse words, alcohol, tobacco, romance, betrayals, slavery, rapes etc. There are so many outcomes of your journey. You might end up losing a great character for not being a good Wing Commander during the mission or by not treating them properly and doing something they didn't expect from you. Towards the end of the game, the briefing room starts looking empty because you lose your friends one by one as the war continues to get dirtier around you.

Your wingmen are actual people. They have a different play style. Some are very weak, especially the ones who were forced to join military for war efforts, others are really good. Some follow your orders and can save you during difficult situations, others are free birds who do their own thing during the battle. You might not like their attitude but they might prove useful against powerful enemies. All of em have their pros and cons. However rest assured they're extremely useful. They're as integral to gameplay as you are. So never underestimate their role during dogfights. Sadly, in the end, you're left with rookies who never wanted to join military because it's possible to lose important characters. Some can die, others swear to never fly with you again for personal reasons. Some characters can give you special bonuses like powerful experimental ships if you've good relations with them, but then it can piss off some higher up in the military.

As you progress you come across new kinds of enemy fighters and new space ships to fight them. So the game keeps things fresh till the end. Other than that, it also gives you dialogue options to choose from which can also alter the story in some shape or form. Some consequences of decisions you made earlier are so unpredictable that you are caught off guard. You think that's how it was supposed to happen since the scene is executed so well. But then you see someone else play the game and realize that he never experienced what you did. His experience will be different. Your actions can even lead to fight between your colleagues.

But the story goes on. However when the game asks you to insert disk 4 and asks you to defend earth, then that's bad ending. There are around 35 missions in the game but even after mission 12 it can jump straight to defending of earth mission. It means you're fucked. The better idea would be to reload last save and replay the last mission to achieve all of your objectives so you can push further in enemy territory instead of being pushed back to earth. The game can be played with Keyboard, Joystick or Mouse. Joystick and Keyboard are find. On Keyboard first 30 minutes are difficult but then you get used to the controls like your second nature. Joystick would be best choice obviously. I played using Keyboard. Never use Mouse. It sucks. Trust me.

The game offers around 6 or 7 difficulty levels. It can become dark souls of video games or an interactive movie. It depends on how you customize the game. And you can customize it on the fly. Pressing Alt + O during the mission gives you a screen. From there you can change the game however you want. It also allows you to trigger god mode. What else can one want from the game. Even if you're afraid that you'll suck at it, there is an option for you if you're in just for the story. If that's not enough then the least you can do is, watch the whole playthrough on Youtube. It'll be worth it. I'll leave suitable review I found a couple of days ago below for you guys to checkout.

Meanwhile, I'm off to play Wing Commander 4.

PS: I played GOG version. The game refused to launch but there are graphics options in start menu containing GOG.com and Wing Commander 3 folder. Changing API from Direct Draw to Open GL and using native resolution solved the issue. There are some tweak guides on youtube. They are easy to follow if you're having trouble to launch the game or facing some issues. I was luckily enough to not encounter any noticeable problems. Remember few tweaks like changing API etc and setting sound card to Soundblaster will do the trick for majority (if facing stuttering cutscenes or lack of sound). The game uses SVGA so select that option if it asks to select graphics card.

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#2  Edited By IvanGrozny
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Very good review. Thank you for the effort of writing it with so many details. I have the WC3 and 4 on GOG and Origin. I will give it a go.

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#3 DaVillain  Moderator
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Still own Wing Commander on GoG and the game itself has aged well indeed, but it was so ahead of it's time back in the early 90's.

Still can't believe that Hollywood got Wing Commander movie so wrong. The games where already movies for the most part. Most of the story used in live action movies with great actors. In WC3 & 4, you play as Mark Hamill! How do you screw that up?!

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#4 Cloud_Man
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@davillain- said:

Still own Wing Commander on GoG and the game itself has aged well indeed, but it was so ahead of it's time back in the early 90's.

Still can't believe that Hollywood got Wing Commander movie so wrong. The games where already movies for the most part. Most of the story used in live action movies with great actors. In WC3 & 4, you play as Mark Hamill! How do you screw that up?!

Internal politics. Same as it was with Alien 3.

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I had the PS version of WC3. Honestly don't remember a whole lot about it besides the great cast. Do know I enjoyed it but can't really remember much else. Gotta find another copy and check it out for myself again.

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#6  Edited By lamprey263
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Regretfully never played these, at the time I was more into the X-Wing and Tie Fighter games.

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Strip away the nostalgia and this game has not aged well. A young kid who is used to today's games and has never played it before is going to think it is shit. Games that age well are usually simpler games that are more about gameplay. Presentation was a big part of Wing Commander and while impressive for the time, it is shit today.

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#8  Edited By Cloud_Man
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@BassMan said:

Strip away the nostalgia and this game has not aged well. A young kid who is used to today's games and has never played it before is going to think it is shit. Games that age well are usually simpler games that are more about gameplay. Presentation was a big part of Wing Commander and while impressive for the time, it is shit today.

Might not have read the post. I'm playing it for the first time.

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@heathen75 said:

I had the PS version of WC3. Honestly don't remember a whole lot about it besides the great cast. Do know I enjoyed it but can't really remember much else. Gotta find another copy and check it out for myself again.

Avoid console ports at all cost. It should work on any PC or laptop you own atm. Play it there.

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@cloud_man: I didn't read it. This being your first playthrough, you must be very forgiving and lenient with your standards and expectations. This is surprising since you are very familiar with what is available today for space sims and space combat games. However, you still have some nostalgia or affinity for the series because you said you played Wing Commander 4.

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Is @cloud_Man the same guy as Cloud Imperium?

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@Juub1990 said:

Is @cloud_Man the same guy as Cloud Imperium?

Yes. It says so in his signature.

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This game blew my mind back in the day. I've been afraid to replay it because I wasn't sure it would hold up, but now I may rebuy it next time there is a gog sale.

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This was one of my first PC games to own back in mid nineties, I loved those big box PC games back then, with its FMV sequences, it was so much more advanced than Star Wars X-Wing and Tie-Fighter games I'd played a few years before.

I've got the GoG version, I'll have to play it again sometime.

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@BassMan said:

@cloud_man: I didn't read it. This being your first playthrough, you must be very forgiving and lenient with your standards and expectations. This is surprising since you are very familiar with what is available today for space sims and space combat games. However, you still have some nostalgia or affinity for the series because you said you played Wing Commander 4.

While I do love Wing Commander series, Freespace basically took what was best about every other space sim of the time and rolled it into one game. Freespace was awesome because it was equal parts Wing Commander and X-Wing/Tie Fighter. It took the varied gun/missile loadouts from WC and combined it with the lovely shield management of X-Wing. Freespace 2 went even further by adding emphasis on beam based capital ship combat, IMHO taking inspiration from the Homeworld series. Yes I know they came out around the same time... coincidence? I think not! But yeah, Bass has a point, anyone who has played WC back in the 90's will still appreciate for what it did but this generation will shit all over it. It aged well for the 90's kids but not today's kids standards.

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@Juub1990 said:

Is @cloud_Man the same guy as Cloud Imperium?

Yes. It says so in his signature.

Gamespot is so slow and will hardly change users name request and so yeah, he got rid of his previous account and made a new one all for the sake of a new name. Even I requested a name change and that was 2 years ago. So I'm stuck with my name unless GS Staff finally changes it.

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Hobbes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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@davillain-: Really? I like your name.

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@KungfuKitten: I wanted to change it to Vitali. Oh well, I'll keep DaVillain.

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Before my PC days I really enjoyed Wing Commander I and II on SNES. Never revisited the series, but I did buy the collection on GOG. You may have inspired me to give it another go.

There was no feeling like getting a new ship in this game. Always had a good mix of escort missions, defense missions, and battle ship raids. I wonder if I should start at I again on PC or just go right to III.

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@Juub1990 said:

Is @cloud_Man the same guy as Cloud Imperium?

Even I know who is his alt is and I barely know him except that he likes starzy.

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#21 Macutchi
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not often you get gamespot's very own super heroes bass man, cloud man and bad guy da villain all in one thread.

on topic i used to love the wing commander games. think wc3 was back in my amiga / 486 era days. glad (and slightly surprised) they hold up so well

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#22  Edited By Cloud_Man
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@BassMan said:

@cloud_man: I didn't read it. This being your first playthrough, you must be very forgiving and lenient with your standards and expectations. This is surprising since you are very familiar with what is available today for space sims and space combat games. However, you still have some nostalgia or affinity for the series because you said you played Wing Commander 4.

And I played Wing Commander 4 in 2014. Which means, during this gen. You're trying too hard mate. It's not difficult to understand that good games remain good games for quite some time if not forever,,, and people can enjoy them. Don't judge someone's opinion with your already made up mind. I can see you won't enjoy the game because of where you're coming from and I'm OK with that. But don't assume anything about me either. Chill :-)

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@dxmcat said:

Hobbes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

His plot was quite shocking tbh.

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@cloud_man said:
@BassMan said:

@cloud_man: I didn't read it. This being your first playthrough, you must be very forgiving and lenient with your standards and expectations. This is surprising since you are very familiar with what is available today for space sims and space combat games. However, you still have some nostalgia or affinity for the series because you said you played Wing Commander 4.

And I played Wing Commander 4 in 2014. Which means, during this gen. You're trying too hard mate. It's not difficult to understand that good games remain good games for quite some time if not forever,,, and people can enjoy them. Don't judge someone's opinion with your already made up mind. I can see you won't enjoy the game because of where you're coming from and I'm OK with that. But don't assume anything about me either. Chill :-)

Some good games remain good and age well and others not so much. Many games from that era do not age well. Take Under A Killing Moon for example.... I really enjoyed it back then, but it is shit by today's standards. I don't think the Wing Commander games aged well, but that does not mean it is not playable and people can't find enjoyment with them. There are things that are objectively bad by today's standards and other things like design choices that are subjective. I am just surprised that you are praising it so much.

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@Macutchi said:

not often you get gamespot's very own super heroes bass man, cloud man and bad guy da villain all in one thread.

Hehe. I even got my own theme song...

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Wing Commander, when killing your wingman is sometimes the only way to save yourself lmao. Damn Angel.