Will you start buying 4K discs for your PS5?

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#1 deactivated-60113e7859d7d
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I have this theory the UHD drive will have very little impact on the 4K movie market.

Personally, I was disappointed the PS4 Pro couldn't play them, but I wasn't going to wait another generation to see if the PS5 possibly would. I've been collecting them since 2018. I don't even know if I'll get a 5. I prefer my other platforms.

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#2 robert_sparkes
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I have an Xbox one s and not brought a single 4K ultra HD blu ray. Until they get cheaper I won't buy any.

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#3 pyro1245
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I wish they didn't sell them on optical media.

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#4 VFighter
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@pyro1245: Why?

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#5  Edited By R4gn4r0k  Online
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Throw out your Casette tapes because now DVDs are here

Throw out your DVDs because now Blu Rays are here

Throw out your blu rays because now 4K blu rays are here

Endless cycle

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#6 PurpleMan5000
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I don't even own a 4k television.

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@vfighter said:

@pyro1245: Why?

I don't like optical media. Rather download or get it on a flash drive.

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#8 Telekill
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I have a stand alone 4k blu-ray player. Have had it about a year and a half now. Looks phenomenal.

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#9 Telekill
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@R4gn4r0k: 4K is going to be my end of the cycle. I'm not getting any younger and my vision won't be getting any better.

On topic... I have a stand alone 4k blu-ray player. Have had it about a year and a half now. Looks phenomenal.

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I already do, for my Xbox One S.

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#11 sealionact
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I get UHD discs for my x1x, if it's a film I know I'll watch more than a couple of times. UHD disc with atmos and hdr is night and day above anything on streaming services.

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#12 Zero_epyon
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I've been buying and renting 4K movie discs for my Xbox One already.

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#13 robert_sparkes
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For me it's pretty pointless with suscriptions to Netflix and amazon prime video. It's so much easier to just watch something on there. Maybe I'm part of the problem why sales are dwindling for physical movies.

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#14 R-Gamer
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I already own the 4k disk. It is a noticeable leap in quality over 4k streaming. So for those special movies I will continue to buy them.

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I still buy Blu-Ray discs despite I already own 4KTV. Hell I rather just stream my movies for the most parts.

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#16 Chutebox
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Probably finally upgrading my tv to a 4k oled. No chance I'll buy a single disc at the price they are asking.

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I buy 4-6 UHD movies a month. The audio/visual upgrades over Blu-ray and streaming are striking. The PS5 having a 4K drive can’t hurt adoption rates. I just wish people who watch movies at home cared as much about image and audio quality as I do. That Netflix and Disney+ “4K” doesn’t look as good as 1080p Blu-ray ffs. And don’t get me started on the compressed audio

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#18  Edited By Chutebox
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@goldenelementxl said:

I buy 4-6 UHD movies a month. The audio/visual upgrades over Blu-ray and streaming are striking. The PS5 having a 4K drive can’t hurt adoption rates. I just wish people who watch movies at home cared as much about image and audio quality as I do. That Netflix and Disney+ “4K” doesn’t look as good as 1080p Blu-ray ffs. And don’t get me started on the compressed audio

What audio improvements do 4k discs have over BD?

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Nope, I have not bought a movie or music on a disk in years. I much prefer digital media to having to have a shelf of disks. Plus Netflix, Hulu, Disney+, and Amazon Prime have made buying movies a rare occasion for me.

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#20 deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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@Chutebox: Dolby Atmos. Atmos tracks are incredibly rare on Blu-ray disks. Anything that goes beyond the normal 5.1-7.1 surround setups aren’t available on Blu-ray audio tracks

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I don't use physical media for movies/videos anymore. They just take up too much room for my place.

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For the last couple years, I've just been buying digital movies on Vudu. They offer most movies in UHD, and I'll buy those versions when they're the same price or only slightly more than the regular HDX. Being a stream, I'm sure it doesn't look as good as a real UHD blu ray would, but I haven't bothered directly comparing.

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@iambatman7986: yup. Same here. The future, man.

And btw, regarding your sig, it's Stephen King. Not Steven.

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#24  Edited By deactivated-60113e7859d7d
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@R4gn4r0k said:

Throw out your Casette tapes because now DVDs are here

Throw out your DVDs because now Blu Rays are here

Throw out your blu rays because now 4K blu rays are here

Endless cycle

Or you could be like me and buy all three at the same time. There are tons of DVDs that never made it to Blu-ray, and an endless number of Blu-rays that will never make it to 4K. Edit: TV shows too.

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I don't care about 4K, barely any difference.

Waste of money.

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The nice thing about 4K is that because it's such an enthusiast technology, the studios have an incentive to do the masters right this time. Most of my 4K movies have far more accurate colors and fewer compression anomalies than the Blu-rays.

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I don't care about 4K, barely any difference.

Waste of money.

You'd have to be 30 inches from about a 40" screen or 8 feet from a 70"+ screen to get any benefit from 4k. So yeah, barely any difference. 30" from a 27" 1440P is about perfect in size and resolution for gaming.

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Good lord, it's 60 fps makes no difference all over again.

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I have one.

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#30 2Chalupas
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I already have been.

PS5 should give it a slight bump, but probably not too significantly.

Not sure it's ever really mattered, DVD was going to be big with or without PS2 most likely. Blu-ray had to compete with HD-DVD, so I guess the PS3 helped pushed it over the top and led to HD-DVD's quick demise, but again, this was probably inevitable anyway.

UHD seems to be more of a niche thing for film aficionados that want as close to film quality as possible (without any streaming or compression artificats). But then again, if you have a 4K TV, and a PS5 is your first UHD player, some people might say "why the hell not" and grab a few big movies just because they can. It just won't be nearly as prevalant as it was before people were locked in to streaming so much.

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#31  Edited By 2Chalupas
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@ezekiel43 said:

The nice thing about 4K is that because it's such an enthusiast technology, the studios have an incentive to do the masters right this time. Most of my 4K movies have far more accurate colors and fewer compression anomalies than the Blu-rays.

Yet they have still screwed up their fair share (or been lazy). That was also the issue with blu-ray, a bunch of early blu-rays were half-assed.. and led people to say "I can't tell the difference from DVD". Well no shit, that's because studios were basically slapping a DVD quality master onto a blu-ray and pushing them out the door without really putting in the effort to remaster them.

Fortunately as the years went on some have been upgraded/remastered, and 4K is giving them another incentive to keep doing more. Worst case is at least they are usually slightly better (if you are going from a quality 2K DCP blu-ray vs. a UHD that uses the same master), but if you are going from a "bad" blu-ray to a brand new 4K UHD disc, the differences can be huge.

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I already have since I got the One X.

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#33 freedomfreak
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Sure as poo ain't downloading 4K movies. I've got about 10 of them. And yeah, the Pro not being able to run them is ridiculous. Especially since that's Sony's thing.

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I have a standalone player. I buy quite a few UHD discs a year. Even in areas with speedy internet you still get compression and noticeable banding on 4K streams. The audio is similarly worse. The main issue with UHD is that the selection is very limited and some players (mine included) have playback issues. Even Parasite which just won best picture does not have announced UHD release and that's pretty tragic imo. Same with Midsommar.

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#35 VFighter
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I dont have a 4k tv and dont plan on buying one anything,soon so I'll probably stick with regular blu rays for now.

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#36 deactivated-5ebd39d683340
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I own all sorts of 4k HDR Blu Ray discs. Some are better encoded than others. Blue Planet 2, The Revenant, Spiderman into the spiderverse, Dunkirk, Blade Runner 2049 and Joker are way above and beyond any streaming quality you can get. The ?Matrix Trilogy also looks surprisingly good in its HDR 4k formst. Remember these are around 50-100gb h265 encoded 4k 10 bit files. Thats a mouthfull, but quality wise its a level above normal blu ray.

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#37 sakaiXx
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What is the difference between 4K UHD stream and optical disk? Seems inconvenient keeping physical disk around when you can just buy the movie of some digital store and stream.

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#38  Edited By deactivated-60113e7859d7d
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@sakaixx said:

What is the difference between 4K UHD stream and optical disk? Seems inconvenient keeping physical disk around when you can just buy the movie of some digital store and stream.

The difference is discs can carry far more information, which means a better picture and better sound. Netflix recommends a 25 mbps connection for 4K content. Discs are commonly about 70 mbps. I've never seen one above 100 mbps, but it's possible.

25 mbps is what I recommend for Blu-ray discs, not resolutions four times that with more colors.

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@briguyb13 said:

I already have since I got the One X.

Same. I just wish they weren't so god damned expensive. 35 dollars for one movie... I keep convincing myself that it's worth it and I'm future proofing them for when I get a better 4K TV (mine doesn't have HDR).

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#40 Chutebox
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@JustPlainLucas said:
@briguyb13 said:

I already have since I got the One X.

Same. I just wish they weren't so god damned expensive. 35 dollars for one movie... I keep convincing myself that it's worth it and I'm future proofing them for when I get a better 4K TV (mine doesn't have HDR).

ebay.com

Seriously, I buy all my BD from there now. I might not get the case, but I don't care about the cases.

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@Chutebox said:
@JustPlainLucas said:
@briguyb13 said:

I already have since I got the One X.

Same. I just wish they weren't so god damned expensive. 35 dollars for one movie... I keep convincing myself that it's worth it and I'm future proofing them for when I get a better 4K TV (mine doesn't have HDR).

ebay.com

Seriously, I buy all my BD from there now. I might not get the case, but I don't care about the cases.

I do. Every movie I own (and game as well) has their own case. Plus, I'm a sucker for a Steelbook.

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@JustPlainLucas said:
@Chutebox said:
@JustPlainLucas said:
@briguyb13 said:

I already have since I got the One X.

Same. I just wish they weren't so god damned expensive. 35 dollars for one movie... I keep convincing myself that it's worth it and I'm future proofing them for when I get a better 4K TV (mine doesn't have HDR).

ebay.com

Seriously, I buy all my BD from there now. I might not get the case, but I don't care about the cases.

I do. Every movie I own (and game as well) has their own case. Plus, I'm a sucker for a Steelbook.

Oh...well I got nothing for you haha.

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Got a couple of discs and 40 in digital form.

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I don't have a 4k tv

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@R4gn4r0k said:

Throw out your Casette tapes because now DVDs are here

Throw out your DVDs because now Blu Rays are here

Throw out your blu rays because now 4K blu rays are here

Endless cycle

I stopped at DVDs, never owned a Blu Ray and never felt the need for it. I wonder how well 4K discs are selling.

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#46  Edited By deactivated-60113e7859d7d
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Netflix hates my high speed internet connection. I'm watching for the first time in months, because of Better Call Saul season 4, and there's once again so much marcoblocking, especially in darker scenes. It's horrible. I'm tempted to just start getting the Blu-rays as they come out. Why is it that Disney Plus looked good on my TV and Netflix always looks like garbage? DVDs look more consistent than this shit.

Anyway, my theory that the PS5 will have very little impact stems from the sad fact that most people consider movies disposable. They don't care enough about cinema to own any of it. If it's not on one of their two or three streaming services of choice, they won't even watch it.

All Netflix subscribers see the links to Netflix DVD (which should be called Netflix DVD/Blu-ray) whenever they search for a title that regular Netflix doesn't have, which has an endlessly bigger selection of movies, most at far superior quality. I doubt most people are far away from an outgoing mailbox. I have one right in my apartment building. But no, they find discs outdated and would prefer watching at like a quarter of the quality, if they can even watch the thing at all. There are only about twelve Netflix shipping centers left in the county now. I used to be able to rent six discs a week. Not anymore. They're also getting gradually fewer titles. I will still probably keep renting until the service is gone, however, because I've always had far better luck finding titles on there.

People always want the latest technology, whether it's smartphones or video game consoles or the stuff in my sig, but with movies they're fine with DVD. If you go to Walmart, you'll see huge DVD collections. The DVD versions of movies usually sell out first. They never cared about quality, which explains why most just went straight from DVD to streaming. I still buy DVDs when the titles are not available on Blu-ray, but this refusal to go to the next technology would be as if Sony still made PlayStation 2 games. There are so many DVD titles I wish would be upgraded to high definition.

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#47 DaVillain  Moderator
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@xantufrog said:

I don't have a 4k tv

4KTV are affordable now, but it's always best to wait for Black Friday and get a much better deal. I already have a 4KTV for future proof. (I know, I know, it's not necessary a word)

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#48 PSP107
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@2Chalupas: "DVD was going to be big with or without PS2 most likely."

That's debatable isn't it? I mean DVD 1st released around 1996/7 but really took off during the PS2 era.

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I have a 4k telly & a 4k XB1 X and I don't even watch movies at all.

You name any movie from the last decade, and I haven't watched it.

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#50  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@i_p_daily said:

I have a 4k telly & a 4k XB1 X and I don't even watch movies at all.

You name any movie from the last decade, and I haven't watched it.

Sucks to be you -_-