Will you be upgrading your PC next gen or will next gen consoles be good enough?

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Poll: Will you be upgrading your PC next gen or will next gen consoles be good enough? (80 votes)

I might upgrade depending on console specs. 13%
I think console specs will be good enough for me. 20%
I will always upgrade my PC because I'm l33t. 50%
Who cares about graphics? It's about the game!! 18%

This was my first gen where I had a pretty powerful GPU - the GTX 980 TI! It still rocks even today's games, 4 years later. But as we transition to the next gen, I wonder if I will truly need to upgrade. Maybe the next consoles will be good enough for me. What do you think, SW? Will you be upgrading your PC next gen or will next gen consoles be good enough?

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#51 madrocketeer
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Still rocking my GTX 970... ...which was supposed to be an interim card. LOL.

Waiting to see when NVIDIA will release Ampere, hopefully with something like a RTX 3070 model. If it's soon, then I'll buy that. If not, I might jump in and grab the RTX 2070 Super.

Always looking for snazzy new small form factor PCs to upgrade to. After Valve's Steam Machines crashed and burned, I'm now looking forward to Intel's Ghost Canyon modular NUCs. Kinda wished I hadn't upgraded my CPU last year now.

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#52  Edited By BenjaminBanklin
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@i_p_daily said:

They're cheap yes, but how you got that they're thieves from it is anybody's guess as you still have to pay for Gamepass whereas being a pirate means you steal it, not sure why that has to be explained to you, maybe its because you're a pirate.

You put pirates in the same category as GP and Humble Bundle consumers. You've gone way over the edge to the point of no return. Kind of ironic to hear you talk about people worshipping hardware when you've been slaving for Xbox platforms all these years. To the point where you're now attacking people for using Game Pass. You're hitting peak Daily now.

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#53 ArchoNils2
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The PC I build over 2 years ago with its beautiful Aorus GTX 1080 Ti is already stronger than the XSX. I might upgrade it in the next 7 or so years when the "new" consoles are out. But I certainly don't HAVE to.

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#54 Grey_Eyed_Elf  Online
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@ronvalencia said:

@SolidGame_basic:

RTX 3080 Ti and Ryzen Zen 3 with 12 core or higher. I'm not buying another PCI-E 3.0 motherboard and GPU combo.

@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

The 5700XT is 12% slower than a 1080 Ti... So a PS5 will be slower and a XSX might be faster or on par.

I have no excitement in buying a late 2020 console that just about competes with 2017's flagship GPU.

The 1080 Ti wasn't good enough for 4K/60 in 2017 with every game out then. Good luck with that performance and slower in 2021 with ray tracing.

Will I upgrade my PC?... Of course, unlike console gamer's I am not under the delusion that 30FPS is good enough especially in 2020.

GTX 1080 Ti is aging and has instances being beaten by RX 5700 XT (with ACE and RPM) and RTX 2070 (with ACE, VSR and RPM).

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt/27.html

At 1080p, 5700 XT's 448GB/s memory bandwdith is not a large issue.

NVIDIA Turing GPUs murdered Pascal GPUs. Turing has hardware ACE (Async compute) , VSR (Variable Rate Shading) and RPM (Rapid Pack Math).

Turing and NAVI supports wave32 compute length format. GCN doesn't support wave32, hence inefficient GCN wave64 populated usage (harder to optimize in drivers, less effective TFLOPS usage on GCN).

Turing, Vega II and NAVI supports quad INT8 and double rate FP16/INT16 RPM.

RX Vega 56/64 doesn't have quad rate INT8 RPM.

RDNA 2 has VSR (Variable Rate Shading) and hardware ray-tracing.

At 4K, RX-5700 XT still beats the aging GTX 1080 Ti.

Aging GTX 1080 Ti does not meet "next gen" console hardware RDNA 2 feature set!

PC GPU must have the following features

  • Hardware ACE (Async compute) ,
  • VSR (Variable Rate Shading)
  • RPM (Rapid Pack Math).
  • Hardware Raytracing
  • Wave32 compute format

For Wolfenstein 2 PC build, both AMD and NVIDIA camps used PC's vendor specfic API extensions with Vulkan. This example shows PC can be programmed nearly like a game console.

Turing RTX 2070 GPU + Zen 2 8 cores are my minimum for any new PC build.

I am aware of what a 1080 Ti does an does not support.

I am talking strictly gaming performance.

The 1080 Ti at ANY resolution is faster than a 5700 XT. There will always be exceptions but they are not the rule when it comes to GPU performance.

Using one game out of the 100's that exist is not a example of better performance, its a cherry picked scenario. Out of games they tested high majority of them the 1080 Ti is drastically faster than a XT.

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#55 johnd13
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My plan is to build a completely new PC in about 2 years. Until then, I will take every last ounce of juice out of my old 3570K by OCing it. I recently bought the 1660Ti to keep my GPU up to date as much as possible without risking serious bottleneck from the rest of the parts.

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#56  Edited By BassMan  Online
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@the_master_race said:

I'll upgrade my PC , because I want quality

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#57 GoldenElementXL
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So I’m building a family friend a PC in the next couple of weeks. Parts of the PC will beat next gen consoles like the RAM, CPU and cooling. We still don’t know the fairytale ssd tech the consoles are using, but I’m also using a new gen4 m.2 drive as well. I doubt the consoles will match it. The only thing I can’t really match for a decent price is the GPU. To keep the cost reasonable I went with a RTX 2070 super, which when the consoles launch will be a refresh of a 2 year old GPU. Overall I’m charging $1,050 for the PC (it costs more than that) and it really opened my eyes regarding the jump PC gaming needs to take this year. Either that or the consoles are about to disappoint big time.

Ryzen 7 3700X w/ Corsair h100 platinum aio

32GB ddr4 at 3200

RTX 2070 super FE

Corsair MP600 ssd

Vs

The next gen consoles.

I’m very curious to see the comparison.

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#58  Edited By ronvalencia
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@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

I am aware of what a 1080 Ti does an does not support.

I am talking strictly gaming performance.

The 1080 Ti at ANY resolution is faster than a 5700 XT. There will always be exceptions but they are not the rule when it comes to GPU performance.

Using one game out of the 100's that exist is not a example of better performance, its a cherry picked scenario. Out of games they tested high majority of them the 1080 Ti is drastically faster than a XT.

Do you guarantee GTX 1080 Ti will hold it's position above RTX 2070 for four years into PS5/XSX generation?

My cherry pick game uses "next gen" GPU features.

Medium raytracing has reduced GTX 1080 Ti below RTX 2060 level in BattleField V

I don't even recommend RX 5700 XT due to missing hardware features.

Targeting next gen consoles, RTX 2070 is my minimum GPU.

Selecting between GTX 1080 Ti vs RTX 2070, I'll select RTX 2070. RTX 2070 Super would be my selection.

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#59 ConanTheStoner
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Need to upgrade my GPU for non-gaming purposes anyways, but having a top end GPU for gaming is always a nice bonus.

Then just get whatever Nintendo puts out next. PS5 is a wait and see, XSX is likely a nah. Don't even care about the power with any of them, just exclusives that interest me.

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#60 svaubel
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As much as I like the design of the Series X, I'll probably just upgrade my PC.

Xbox is largely irrelevant if you have a gaming PC with Game Pass available, and I dont care about Sony's exclusives. So, PC and Nintendo going forward for me.

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#61 clone01
Member since 2003 • 27656 Posts

nothing against PC gaming, but consoles for me.

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#62  Edited By warmblur
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@jasonofa36 said:

I will upgrade my pc regardless lol

Same

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#63 uninspiredcup
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Just upgraded with no intent to upgrade for at least another 4 years.

If I don't get 4k raytracy wankery, completely fine, can live without it.

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#64  Edited By Bluudynuckles
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i have a 1080 ti what yaw think is it time for a upgrade

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#65  Edited By Yrkoon99
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got a sapphire pulse 5700 in october to replace my reference rx 480 8 gig and just recently upgraded my motherboard cpu and memory.

went from a 6600k i5 to a ryzen 3600 and then i bought another 16 gig set of ddr4 3200 mem as my existing set wouldn't play nice with my new ryzen.

so sitting on :

msi tomahawk max b450 mainboard

ryzen 3600

16 gig team group vulcan 3200

sappire pulse 5700

reckon im in a good spot for the moment and my dad got a nice upgrade from his very old phenom II 955 rig.

he is sitting on the below for free as their my old parts

gigabyte g1.sniper z170 mainboard

i5 6600k

16 gig kingston hyper x fury 3200 only stable at @ 2999 speeds

reference rx 480 8 gig

ill probably get a ps5 at some point as i also play on consoles, got a switch and ps4 etc but im in no rush and i have nice upgrade paths available and my upgrade had nothing to do with new consoles as my 4 core/4thread cpu was starting to be a bottleneck on a few games especially with my new gpu.

heads up for any one upgrading do it soon as memory and ssd prices are starting to rise again from their current low point :)

i think thats a long post but im drunk so meh lol

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#66 adsparky
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I'll upgrade my PC for Homeworld 3.

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#67 Ezekiel43
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I got a 1070 and will probably hold off for a while, because most modern games bore me to death.

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#68  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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@ezekiel43 said:

I got a 1070 and will probably hold off for a while, because most modern games bore me to death.

You should change your name to Jaded Gamer!

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#69 Epak_
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Ditching Xbox next-gen and updating my PC with a proper GPU, the rest of the PC is good enough. PS5 will be a day one purchase, we'll have to see what Nintendo is going to do this year, if anything.

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#70  Edited By Yrkoon99
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oh got xbox beta gamepass ultimate till mid june for 2 quid....

got my dad till mid july for 2 quid earlier...

1 pound deal for pc game pass and turned off auto renewel, gave dad the 3 month free code i got with my cpu, applied all that and it gave him a month for turning on auto renewel, turned that off and went for the 1 pound ultimate for another month.

2 pound for xbox ultimate gamepass untill july.... pc ftw :)

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#71  Edited By N64DD
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@Archangel3371 said:

I haven’t been interested in PC gaming for quite a long time and am just a console gamer these days so I’ll just be sticking with consoles again for this upcoming next gen.

Same. I have a 980 ti in my gaming machine with an OC'd i7 running at 4.4 (4820k) and 32 gigs of ram. It hasn't been physically hooked up in 7 months. A main reason is my wife had our first baby in June and Switch has been my main gaming machine. Console will be good enough for next gen. I might only splash in upgrading my pc if my current can't run the new elder scrolls top end.

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#72 Gatygun
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9900k 32gb ram, 3500/3300 ssd, 1080ti oc'ed.

Wouldnt have to upgrade in the next decade if i cared for it. However i probably going to replace that 1080ti with 3080ti if it comes out straight out of the gate for 700 bucks if not i couldn't care.

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#73 Jendeh
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Graphics are secondary to me. I loved Stardew Valley, Slay the Spire, and Disco Elysium. I like having a PC because I like having access to all the best games, but usually am content to upgrade my laptop have 3-4 years. I have no desire to be cutting edge in this regard.