Will M$ use their 'ace in the hole' to trump $ony's plans next gen?

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#1 Xplode_games
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Next gen consoles will have Ryzen 8 core/16 thread CPUs and GPUs that are faster than an RX 5700 XT and with native ray tracing support.

Both consoles will be roughly the same hardware wise I am sure. What will be the difference that makes one better than the other?

Sony will have it's first party games that if you're a fan, that is a great reason right there.

Microsoft has invested in first party studios and they will be releasing next gen games as well and that may be a compelling reason for you.

I think Microsoft should use it's ace in the hole to wreck Sony. What is that you may be curious to know? Well, Microsoft should include the full Windows 10 OS on the next gen Xbox!

Think about this, a $500 Xbox that is also a full computer running full Windows. It would be a pretty capable computer with a Ryzen CPU and Navi GPU and an SSD drive. Microsoft wants to expand the gaming audience, can you imagine how many non gamers would buy the next gen Xbox as a cheap PC? Talk about growing your gaming audience exponentially and winning next gen with one trump move!

On top of that you have gamepass that will give you a bunch of great games and all the new first party games for very little money. Can you think of a better value than buying the next gen Xbox if Microsoft includes Windows 10 on it?

No one would buy a PS5 but then Sony would have to license Windows for their playstation and then come out with a new windows capable model to compete. But they would have to pay Microsoft licensing fees so M$$$ wins again!

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#2 blamix
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If i get to choose i will go with Sony cause i want to play great games. Just think about it.

Spiderman 2

Horizon Zero Dawn 2

God of War 2

The Last of Us 2

Ghost of Tsushima

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@blamix said:

If i get to choose i will go with Sony cause i want to play great games. Just think about it.

Spiderman 2

Horizon Zero Dawn 2

God of War 2

The Last of Us 2

Ghost of Tsushima

Wouldn't those come to PSNow, and you'd be able to play them on the (Xbox) PC?

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#4 JoshRMeyer
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Yuck, why would you want windows on your console? Would rather have a PC if I was gonna do that.

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#5 Ant_17
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Win 10 a selling point, lol

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#6 sealionact
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Think about it. Why would ms do this?

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#7  Edited By navyguy21
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Would be hacked day 1........so no, not happening.

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#8 Nirgal
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People buy consoles for their simplicity. If they wanted a pc they could get one for the same price. Maybe the graphics won’t be the same, but when you buy a pc graphics are really not what most users have in mind.

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#9 blamix
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@Fuhrer_D: maybe. We never know. Fingers cross though :D

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Whaaat? That is a silly idea. If it was windows games working on Xbox that is a different story.
Whaaat? That is a silly idea. If it was windows games working on Xbox that is a different story.

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Genius, so modders can hack the living F out of it in record time and NO ONE would buy games on it because they'd pirate the entire library.

After that (the hardware doesn't provide profit for a company until 2 or 3 years down the line) MS would be so far in the red after the first year they'd just stop producing consoles all together.

Meanwhile Sony will still rake in cash from people buying their AAA PS5 exclusives

@Fuhrer_D said:
@blamix said:

If i get to choose i will go with Sony cause i want to play great games. Just think about it.

Spiderman 2

Horizon Zero Dawn 2

God of War 2

The Last of Us 2

Ghost of Tsushima

Wouldn't those come to PSNow, and you'd be able to play them on the (Xbox) PC?

You still can't play Spiderman, Horizon Zero Dawn or God of war on PSNow...NOW.

Like, WTF are you even talking about?

Sony doesn't release their AAA exclusive games on their rental service until 3 or 4 years down the line and some won't even be added until after the generation is over.

No you won't be able to play those PS5 exclusives on PC or lol xbox. What a delusional reply.

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#12 BenjaminBanklin
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Man, just buy a damn PC. LOL!

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#13 Xplode_games
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@BenjaminBanklin: I own a gaming PC. I am about to upgrade my PC. I am looking at the new Ryzen 3900X and RX 5700 XT. Actually i'm not going to upgrade. I am going to buy a new PC and then have two PCs. The older one may go into the living room to keep the X company or a spare bedroom.

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#14 ThatDBFan
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Honestly, that would be a dumb move. It would totally destroy what a console is.

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#15 lundy86_4
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That makes less than zero sense.

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#16  Edited By Fuhrer_D
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@boxrekt said:

Genius, so modders can hack the living F out of it in record time and NO ONE would buy games on it because they'd pirate the entire library.

After that (the hardware doesn't provide profit for a company until 2 or 3 years down the line) MS would be so far in the red after the first year they'd just stop producing consoles all together.

Meanwhile Sony will still rake in cash from people buying their AAA PS5 exclusives

@Fuhrer_D said:
@blamix said:

If i get to choose i will go with Sony cause i want to play great games. Just think about it.

Spiderman 2

Horizon Zero Dawn 2

God of War 2

The Last of Us 2

Ghost of Tsushima

Wouldn't those come to PSNow, and you'd be able to play them on the (Xbox) PC?

You still can't play Spiderman, Horizon Zero Dawn or God of war on PSNow...NOW.

Like, WTF are you even talking about?

Sony doesn't release their AAA exclusive games on their rental service until 3 or 4 years down the line and some won't even be added until after the generation is over.

No you won't be able to play those PS5 exclusives on PC or lol xbox. What a delusional reply.

That timeline would still be within the next generation of consoles, and if the premise is an Xbox that works like a PC, now matter how long it took to come to PC, it would be playable on said Xbox. A little more critical thinking on your part would have taken you to the same place.

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@blamix said:

If i get to choose i will go with Sony cause i want to play great games. Just think about it.

Spiderman 2

Horizon Zero Dawn 2

God of War 2

The Last of Us 2

Ghost of Tsushima

Great GAMES!!! thanks that was funny lol.

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Microsoft needs to do one thing, put out more and better games. That's it.

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#19 AJStyles
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That is the worst thing Microsoft could do.

I think they will give up eventually and this would speed up the process.

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#20  Edited By PimpHand_Gamer
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Ray tracing will be limited on that hardware. However sources from internal employees rumor that Sony is interested in operating a traditional store front for PC. There's just too much money in that sector these days for large companies to ignore.

Also Sony Interactive Entertainment boss Shawn Layden yesterday alluded to the possibility that first-party PlayStation titles may soon launch on PC." "you will see in the future some titles coming out of my collection of studios which may need to lean into a wider installed base."

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#21 Telekill
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No. Windows 10 would hamper the console.

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#22 sleepnsurf
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@blamix said:

If i get to choose i will go with Sony cause i want to play great games. Just think about it.

Spiderman 2

Horizon Zero Dawn 2

God of War 2

The Last of Us 2

Ghost of Tsushima

You mean games that don't need sequels? No thanks, someone needs to get innovative and I hope MS does it. No more reboots sequels like Halo/Uncharted/Gears/Horizon. New games only please.

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#23  Edited By Fedor
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@sleepnsurf: Lol, how does GoW and Horizon not need sequels? What a dumb thing to say.

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#24 Basinboy
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Hardly an advantage. Access to what programs are going to provide such an immense advantage while causing resource drain on a device whose components are assembled to maximize gaming performance? It also complicates the ecosystem, though I suppose it would push MS to overhaul their approach on PCs, but they could hardly give less of a damn, as history has shown.

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#25 the_bi99man
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Lol. No. For every reason already mentioned here and more. If there was ANY advantage to be had from making an Xbox console a fully functioning Windows PC, the original Xbox would have ran Windows XP.

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#26 Kaczmar
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Otherway around. The XBOX interface will be coming to the PC.

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#27 nepu7supastar7
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@Xplode_games:

You're saying their ace in the hole is Windows 10? LOL Yeah, I'm sure THAT'S what will get players wanting to grab the next Xbox! Not good exclusives or games like that, no, they just want Windows 10!

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#28 lundy86_4
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@kaczmar said:

Otherway around. The XBOX interface will be coming to the PC.

Good God, no. You can switch between tablet/full OS on the fly, but they'd never lock down the PC environment that much. That would kill the entire market.

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#29  Edited By sakaiXx
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If its just a computer that play games its a hard sell. People would probably opt for tablets or laptop for mobility.

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#30 ni6htmare01
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I might be getting it if it has window 10 pre install in it and about $400