Will FPS ever look like this again ?

http://www.own3d.tv/video/216159/UGC_Fraghighlights_2011_720p_han-sai.production (sorry, can't link for some glitchy reason)

...with all the focus towards a more casual-oriented,console-friendly experience ?

Will we ever have something that requires this speed, this accuracy and somewhat creative thinking on the PC ever again ? (Useless to ask about consoles as they never had it in the first place).

That looks terrible :P. guess im not used to such games but yea hopefully PC gamers get such games, for me Call of Duty is more than enough

If it were to go bacvk to that it would probably be an indie dev to do it

That looks terrible :P. guess im not used to such games but yea hopefully PC gamers get such games, for me Call of Duty is more than enough

finalstar2007

Because Quake would work on a controller...

Am I the only one who really doesn't care about this? FPS shouldn't just be based around twitch movement, but strategy, tactics, planning etc etc.. sSubZerOo

Then you will like what Blackfoot Studios is working on.

It seems like most FPS fans long for games like Quake and Unreal, but I personally long for the return of games like Perfect Dark 64, Goldeneye 64, and Timesplitters 2.

"unreal tournament 3" captured that old-school feel

Maybe :) Tribes Ascend is coming 8) Hopefully Hard Reset will have multiplayer added in or in a newer sequel/title FWH plans to make. Tribes was ahead of it's time no shooter has still matched it.

Anyone who wants old school multiplayer shooter should keep an eye out for this.

Am I the only one who really doesn't care about this? FPS shouldn't just be based around twitch movement, but strategy, tactics, planning etc etc.. sSubZerOo

^^ This. What we just saw was Call of Duty with more jumping and less Aim Assist.

I'm sorry developers don't want to capture a small demographic of whiny elitists. It might get better if you complain some more, though.Plamino

Its not our fault we don't eat trash like CoD and cod clone #568 like you console users do :) We aren't gonna bend over and let companies have their way that easily. They are suppose to be catering to us not finding ways to make a quick buck.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Am I the only one who really doesn't care about this? FPS shouldn't just be based around twitch movement, but strategy, tactics, planning etc etc.. xYamatox

^^ This. What we just saw was Call of Duty with more jumping and less Aim Assist.

No just no. You've clearly never played a Quake game then not to mention Quake was out before CoD

Its not our fault we don't eat trash like CoD and cod clone #568 like you console users do :) We aren't gonna bend over and let companies have their way that easily. They are suppose to be catering to us not finding ways to make a quick buck.NoodleFighter

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Am I the only one who really doesn't care about this? FPS shouldn't just be based around twitch movement, but strategy, tactics, planning etc etc.. NoodleFighter

^^ This. What we just saw was Call of Duty with more jumping and less Aim Assist.

No just no. You've clearly never played a Quake game then not to mention Quake was out before CoD

Played Quake at school with a bunch of friends who played it for years. It's a twitch fest. Once you get used to the speed of movement, it requires the same skill set you would need to be good at a CoD game, just with weapon/health pickups, and more jumping.

Am I the only one who really doesn't care about this? FPS shouldn't just be based around twitch movement, but strategy, tactics, planning etc etc.. sSubZerOo

I bought UT99 on Steam some days ago. The game is still fun and I met a lot of players online. But most of them only play Deathmatch or CTF, ignoring the other game types.

[QUOTE="Plamino"]I'm sorry developers don't want to capture a small demographic of whiny elitists. It might get better if you complain some more, though.NoodleFighter

Its not our fault we don't eat trash like CoD and cod clone #568 like you console users do :) We aren't gonna bend over and let companies have their way that easily. They are suppose to be catering to us not finding ways to make a quick buck.

Lol CS:GO is going to be so much fun.

They are exactly supposed to be "finding ways to make a quick buck"...they are companies. They don't care about your feelings, they care about money (however they get it). And they are "catering to us"...they are catering to the largest demographic which is a basic business principle. Market analysts have determined that the market share of people that actually want games like old-school Quake is a minority and not worth appealing to. If this changes, so will the games being made, not before.Bruin1986

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[QUOTE="Plamino"]I'm sorry developers don't want to capture a small demographic of whiny elitists. It might get better if you complain some more, though.Bruin1986

Its not our fault we don't eat trash like CoD and cod clone #568 like you console users do :) We aren't gonna bend over and let companies have their way that easily. They are suppose to be catering to us not finding ways to make a quick buck.

Strange how are we suppose to determine the market for Old school multiplayers if no one but epic has bothered making one this gen and UT3 didn't please PC gamers much compared to the other UTs and other circumstances, also didn't they sell like 1 million each on all platforms. I didn't even know Warsaw and some others existed :? If they're still people thriving on these ancient games then what does that tell you? Tribes Ascend is getting quite some recognition and F2P will easily help have a large and thriving community.

Strange how are we suppose to determine the market for Old school multiplayers if no one but epic has bothered making one this gen and UT3 didn't please PC gamers much compared to the other UTs and other circumstances, also didn't they sell like 1 million each on all platforms. I didn't even know Warsaw and some others existed :? If they're still people thriving on these ancient games then what does that tell you? Tribes Ascend is getting quite some recognition and F2P will easily help have a large and thriving community.NoodleFighter

[QUOTE="Bruin1986"]They are exactly supposed to be "finding ways to make a quick buck"...they are companies. They don't care about your feelings, they care about money (however they get it). And they are "catering to us"...they are catering to the largest demographic which is a basic business principle. Market analysts have determined that the market share of people that actually want games like old-school Quake is a minority and not worth appealing to. If this changes, so will the games being made, not before.Plamino

They obviously are catering to the majority of people if they keep buying it. Why would they cater to a small minority instead? By catering to a majority, they make more money and make people happy.

And I don't own a single Call of Duty game, thank you very much. I personally do not like the series, but I do not go about flaunting my supremacy because I play games with actual substance. If people enjoy it, what's the problem?Plamino

I do not think I have supremacy just because I do not like CoD but the FPS genre is lacking diversity. Do you want to live in the world where multiplayer for FPS is just Battlefield/MOH, Halo, CoD, and CoD clone cash in attempt failure #4567.

How can Market anaylsis say that people who demand a old school shooter aren't worth appealing to?

Most of these CoD clones are failures so what are they going to loose. TF2 shares quite a lot in common with Old school shooters and is a success.

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]Strange how are we suppose to determine the market for Old school multiplayers if no one but epic has bothered making one this gen and UT3 didn't please PC gamers much compared to the other UTs and other circumstances, also didn't they sell like 1 million each on all platforms. I didn't even know Warsaw and some others existed :? If they're still people thriving on these ancient games then what does that tell you? Tribes Ascend is getting quite some recognition and F2P will easily help have a large and thriving community.Plamino

By old school shooters I'm refering to Arena Shooters like Quake, Unreal Tournament, and Tribes.

What quake/older arena shooter montages fail to show is the deeper thinking behind matches, like memorising how long it takes for certain weapons and powerups take to respawn, keeping your foes from accessing said powerups, area denial and such. They do however show the many advanced movement techniques that are simply not possible in most modern shooters these days.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Am I the only one who really doesn't care about this? FPS shouldn't just be based around twitch movement, but strategy, tactics, planning etc etc.. Cherokee_Jack

Will we ever have something that requires this speed, this accuracy and somewhat creative thinking on the PC ever again ?

N-K0d3R

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Am I the only one who really doesn't care about this? FPS shouldn't just be based around twitch movement, but strategy, tactics, planning etc etc.. WhiteKnight77

Then you will like what Blackfoot Studios is working on.

Counterstrike 2 says hi

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Will we ever have something that requires this speed, this accuracy and somewhat creative thinking on the PC ever again ?

AdrianWerner

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Will we ever have something that requires this speed, this accuracy and somewhat creative thinking on the PC ever again ?

TheShadowLord07

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Am I the only one who really doesn't care about this? FPS shouldn't just be based around twitch movement, but strategy, tactics, planning etc etc.. AdrianWerner

Then you will like what Blackfoot Studios is working on.

Actually, it is being worked on and John just asked members how they wanted an animation feature implemented. He wanted to know if in an engaged posture with a rifle and you switch to the pistol if the weapon should be at low ready or should it come back to engaged. The consensus was back to the engaged posture and is what will be implemented. There is more, but I can't talk about it.

but I personally long for the return of games like Perfect Dark 64, Goldeneye 64, and Timesplitters 2.

NaveedLife

Am I the only one who really doesn't care about this? FPS shouldn't just be based around twitch movement, but strategy, tactics, planning etc etc.. sSubZerOo

Am I the only one who really doesn't care about this? FPS shouldn't just be based around twitch movement, but strategy, tactics, planning etc etc.. sSubZerOo

Am I the only one who really doesn't care about this? FPS shouldn't just be based around twitch movement, but strategy, tactics, planning etc etc.. sSubZerOo

I think they will bring that back more when people get really fed up with the current style of fps

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Am I the only one who really doesn't care about this? FPS shouldn't just be based around twitch movement, but strategy, tactics, planning etc etc.. cain006

Implying this isn't the case for any FPS game, ever made. Even CoD has strong elements of map control to gain an advantage, so I don't see your point.

Am I the only one who really doesn't care about this? FPS shouldn't just be based around twitch movement, but strategy, tactics, planning etc etc.. sSubZerOo

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Am I the only one who really doesn't care about this? FPS shouldn't just be based around twitch movement, but strategy, tactics, planning etc etc.. xYamatox

Implying this isn't the case for any FPS game, ever made. Even CoD has strong elements of map control to gain an advantage, so I don't see your point.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Am I the only one who really doesn't care about this? FPS shouldn't just be based around twitch movement, but strategy, tactics, planning etc etc.. xYamatox

Implying this isn't the case for any FPS game, ever made. Even CoD has strong elements of map control to gain an advantage, so I don't see your point.