Wii/PS3/Kinect homebrewer rumor: Durango CPU clocked at 1.6ghz.

Let the X720 speculation begin!:P

Couresy of NeoGaf

Wii/PS3/Kinect homebrewer rumor: Durango CPU clocked at 1.6ghz.

In reference to a question Marcan got on the Wii U's CPU clock at 1.25ghz...

Originally Posted by:

Marcan:If you want more evidence that MHz isn't everything, a little birdie points out that Durango (Xbox 720) is specc'ed to have a 1.6GHz CPU.

Food for thought. (And don't bother asking me who that little birdie is.)

Marcan is one of the key members of failoverflow and a lead hacker in the Wii/Wii U scene. He apparently has some sources in the know, aside from confirming the exact specs of the Wii U himself through hacking means.

lol, isn't that what the Wii-U is clocked at?

The clock frequency of a cpu tells you nearly nothing about its performance.
Compare a 3 GHz Pentium 4 with a 3 GHz Core i7 and you'll see.

The issue was never clock speed, he himself said it was only a little better than a 360 processor.. that's the issue here. This is for the Wii U peeps that come in here trying to gloat.

The issue was never clock speed, he himself said it was only a little better than a 360 processor.. that's the issue here. This is for the Wii U peeps that come in here trying to gloat.

GD1551

Not only does clock speed not matter, the gpu is way more important to the power of the console than the cpu.

So some hacker who says he has "sources" is now what gaming journalism is basing articles off of? Jesus. I'm not even going to bother with this one.

Not only does clock speed not matter, the gpu is way more important to the power of the console than the cpu.

way2funny

The clock frequency of a cpu tells you nearly nothing about its performance.
Compare a 3 GHz Pentium 4 with a 3 GHz Core i7 and you'll see.

yellonet

but the Wii U CPU is just an overclocked Wii Broadway CPU with 2 tacked on cores (for a total of 3)... They both share the same archaic architecture, that's why the Wii's homebrew works on the Wii U.

eek.

Sony, you're our last hope for a true next gen console. God speed...

[QUOTE="way2funny"]

Not only does clock speed not matter, the gpu is way more important to the power of the console than the cpu.

adamosmaki

When I say clock speed doesnt matter, I meant if you just tell me the clock speed that tells me nothing. And people shouldn't be caught up with it until they see real world results or benchmarks. And like I said the cpu is the least of worries, the gpu is way more important in that equation

[QUOTE="adamosmaki"][QUOTE="way2funny"]

Not only does clock speed not matter, the gpu is way more important to the power of the console than the cpu.

way2funny

When I say clock speed doesnt matter, I meant if you just tell me the clock speed that tells me nothing. And people shouldn't be caught up with it until they see real world results or benchmarks. And like I said the cpu is the least of worries, the gpu is way more important in that equation

If the rumors about 2 different models of the next xbox are true then this could be true but still not matter in the slightest. A 1.6 GHz Cpu could run Arcade games and stream movies no problem, as the rumored low-end model has been said to do.Plagueless

[QUOTE="Plagueless"]If the rumors about 2 different models of the next xbox are true then this could be true but still not matter in the slightest. A 1.6 GHz Cpu could run Arcade games and stream movies no problem, as the rumored low-end model has been said to do.Blazerdt47

Not only does clock speed not matter, the gpu is way more important to the power of the console than the cpu.

way2funny

Sounds like the clock speed of a tablet controller

So, a little birdy is now a trusty source that should be taken seriously ?

If the little bird said xbox 720 is running through the power of melted flower petals alone, would that also be considered a 100% confirmed xbox 720 spec ?

LOL LOL, i have a great time in these forums, all that sillyness

So, a little birdy is now a trusty source that should be taken seriously ?

If the little bird said xbox 720 is running through the power of melted flower petals alone, would that also be considered a 100% confirmed xbox 720 spec ?

LOL LOL, i have a great time in these forums, all that sillyness

loosingENDS

We will see more credible (final?) specs in about a month!

http://www.tgdaily.com/games-and-entertainment-features/67555-xbox-world-leaks-next-gen-720-details

So, a little birdy is now a trusty source that should be taken seriously ?

If the little bird said xbox 720 is running through the power of melted flower petals alone, would that also be considered a 100% confirmed xbox 720 spec ?

LOL LOL, i have a great time in these forums, all that sillyness

loosingENDS

[QUOTE="yellonet"]

The clock frequency of a cpu tells you nearly nothing about its performance.
Compare a 3 GHz Pentium 4 with a 3 GHz Core i7 and you'll see.

Gue1

but the Wii U CPU is just an overclocked Wii Broadway CPU with 2 tacked on cores (for a total of 3)... They both share the same archaic architecture, that's why the Wii's homebrew works on the Wii U.

Source?

I don't know why people don't just accept it. They are getting their hopes up too high here. People will buy the consoles no matter how powerful they are anyway so what is the point in a significant leap when the install base will not justify the costs. Even twice the amount of dev costs would kill a company developing for the next Xbox exclusively. Fact.

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

So, a little birdy is now a trusty source that should be taken seriously ?

If the little bird said xbox 720 is running through the power of melted flower petals alone, would that also be considered a 100% confirmed xbox 720 spec ?

LOL LOL, i have a great time in these forums, all that sillyness

adamosmaki

[QUOTE="adamosmaki"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

So, a little birdy is now a trusty source that should be taken seriously ?

If the little bird said xbox 720 is running through the power of melted flower petals alone, would that also be considered a 100% confirmed xbox 720 spec ?

LOL LOL, i have a great time in these forums, all that sillyness

MaskedPlayer

Loosey seems to believe that. Also cost aside you have to consider this is a 200W gpu it needs a dual slot fan to keep it cool and its quite long but MS can apparently make magic and will fit it on a box as big as a 360 according to Loosey.

Loosey seems to believe that. Also cost aside you have to consider this is a 250W gpu it needs a dual slot fan to keep it cool and its quite long but MS can apparently make magic and will fit it on a box as big as a 360 according to Loosey. adamosmaki

He isn't being realistic. You also need to bear in mind that Microsoft will include Kinect which can also be expensive depending on what they improve. He will only come around and say "who cares about power" when he is proven wrong anyway. I bet 99% of this forum are only pretending to care power matters. Main stream consumers don't believe that and the market for power lovers is factually lower then the market for an affordable, less powerful system.

I bet 99% of this forum are only pretending to care power matters.quickposter

[QUOTE="MaskedPlayer"][QUOTE="adamosmaki"] yeah on contrary with you that somehow believe 720 will have a $500 gtx680. Thats totally plausible and not sillyness ( let the 2000 posts Loosey madness begin )adamosmaki

Loosey seems to believe that. Also cost aside you have to consider this is a 200W gpu it needs a dual slot fan to keep it cool and its quite long but MS can apparently make magic and will fit it on a box as big as a 360 according to Loosey.

[QUOTE="MaskedPlayer"][QUOTE="adamosmaki"] yeah on contrary with you that somehow believe 720 will have a $500 gtx680. Thats totally plausible and not sillyness ( let the 2000 posts Loosey madness begin )adamosmaki

Loosey seems to believe that. Also cost aside you have to consider this is a 200W gpu it needs a dual slot fan to keep it cool and its quite long but MS can apparently make magic and will fit it on a box as big as a 360 according to Loosey.

Not only does clock speed not matter, the gpu is way more important to the power of the console than the cpu.

way2funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygBP7MtT3Ac

[QUOTE="adamosmaki"]

[QUOTE="MaskedPlayer"] a 680 would make the console to expensive unless microsoft make everything else crap.MaskedPlayer

Loosey seems to believe that. Also cost aside you have to consider this is a 200W gpu it needs a dual slot fan to keep it cool and its quite long but MS can apparently make magic and will fit it on a box as big as a 360 according to Loosey.

Let the X720 speculation begin!:P

Couresy of NeoGaf

Wii/PS3/Kinect homebrewer rumor: Durango CPU clocked at 1.6ghz.

In reference to a question Marcan got on the Wii U's CPU clock at 1.25ghz...

Originally Posted by:

Marcan:If you want more evidence that MHz isn't everything, a little birdie points out that Durango (Xbox 720) is specc'ed to have a 1.6GHz CPU.

Food for thought. (And don't bother asking me who that little birdie is.)

Marcan is one of the key members of failoverflow and a lead hacker in the Wii/Wii U scene. He apparently has some sources in the know, aside from confirming the exact specs of the Wii U himself through hacking means.

Blazerdt47

On the Mhz issue, my laptop says Hi.

Hmmm...maybe that 8 core rumor is true then.

[QUOTE="way2funny"]

Not only does clock speed not matter, the gpu is way more important to the power of the console than the cpu.

CwlHeddwyn

Only for benchmarks. With external graphics card, my laptop can handle PC games just fine. I plan to use my old Radeon HD 6950 as my external graphics card for my laptop.

Intel Sandybridge/Ivybridge has both architectural improvements and clock speed.

Sounds like the clock speed of a tablet controller

BPoole96

That sound you hear is the point flying spectacularly over your heard.

1.6GHz seems a little low (especially with most rumours pointing to MS going with either an Intel or AMD CPU), but I suppose it could make sense if MS is really going with an 8-core CPU (especially if they're taking advantage of TurboBoost/whatever AMD calls their version of TurboBoost).

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Sounds like the clock speed of a tablet controller

Slow_Show

That sound you hear is the point flying spectacularly over your heard.

1.6GHz seems a little low (especially with most rumours pointing to MS going with either an Intel or AMD CPU), but I suppose it could make sense if MS is really going with an 8-core CPU (especially if they're taking advantage of TurboBoost/whatever AMD calls their version of TurboBoost).

AMD Opteron 4256 EE has 8 cores with 1.6Ghz base clock speed and 35W watts TDP. AMD Opteron 4256 EE can "Turbo Core" to 2.8Ghz and still keep it's 35 watts TDP.

[QUOTE="Slow_Show"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Sounds like the clock speed of a tablet controller

ronvalencia

That sound you hear is the point flying spectacularly over your heard.

1.6GHz seems a little low (especially with most rumours pointing to MS going with either an Intel or AMD CPU), but I suppose it could make sense if MS is really going with an 8-core CPU (especially if they're taking advantage of TurboBoost/whatever AMD calls their version of TurboBoost).

AMD Opteron 4256 EE has 8 cores with 1.6Ghz base clock speed and 35W watts TDP. AMD Opteron 4256 EE can "Turbo Core" to 2.8Ghz and still keep it's 35 watts TDP.

But how many bits is it?charizard1605

So far next gen consoles look to be underpowered with a tablet and motion controls...again.. PC once again.

We'll see what Sony's going to do with the PS4. Blazerdt47

The leaked PS4 dev box uses AMD A10 Trinity and A10-5700K model has a base clock around 3.4Ghz+ quad core with 65 watts TDP. It can "Turbo Core" to 4Ghz.

AMD A10 Quad Core @ ~3.2Ghz ~= AMD Opteron 4256 EE Eight-Core @ 1.6Ghz.

Similar architecture with different performance approach i.e. AMD Opteron 4256 EE would be extremely multi-threaded bias.

Note that PPE in Xbox 360 has it's L2 cache clocked at 1.6Ghz.

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="Slow_Show"]

That sound you hear is the point flying spectacularly over your heard.

1.6GHz seems a little low (especially with most rumours pointing to MS going with either an Intel or AMD CPU), but I suppose it could make sense if MS is really going with an 8-core CPU (especially if they're taking advantage of TurboBoost/whatever AMD calls their version of TurboBoost).

clyde46

AMD Opteron 4256 EE has 8 cores with 1.6Ghz base clock speed and 35W watts TDP. AMD Opteron 4256 EE can "Turbo Core" to 2.8Ghz and still keep it's 35 watts TDP.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

AMD Opteron 4256 EE has 8 cores with 1.6Ghz base clock speed and 35W watts TDP. AMD Opteron 4256 EE can "Turbo Core" to 2.8Ghz and still keep it's 35 watts TDP.

ronvalencia

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="clyde46"] That sounds like an epic CPU for a low power encoding server.clyde46

It's what the market can bare. You don't under price if the market is willing to pay the asking price.

So the next-gen could be "the slow CPU gen"?

I've heard it could have a 16-core ARM CPU.

Lower clock speeds but more emphasis on multithreading is my guess.

[QUOTE="MaskedPlayer"][QUOTE="adamosmaki"] yeah on contrary with you that somehow believe 720 will have a $500 gtx680. Thats totally plausible and not sillyness ( let the 2000 posts Loosey madness begin )adamosmaki

Loosey seems to believe that. Also cost aside you have to consider this is a 200W gpu it needs a dual slot fan to keep it cool and its quite long but MS can apparently make magic and will fit it on a box as big as a 360 according to Loosey.

Then, please explain how the Xenos (which at least 1 gen ahead of the GPU's at that time) could fit inside the Xbox 360?

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Hmmm...maybe that 8 core rumor is true then.

Kingpin0114

Actually it was 16 cores. It was supposedly 8 for XBOX and 8 for Kinect. But looking at other rumors it looks plausible since more recent ones mention 4 hardware cores each divided into 4 logical cores. So that would make 16 cores.

No link to back-up the Wii U's clockspeed. Regardless 1.6ghz is pretty bad.